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Montgomery 17 with round bronze ports and tan bark sails.
by Bob 26 May '04

26 May '04

We've been building a few 2004 model Montgomery 17s with these new round bronze opening ports and tan bark sails for various customers... They look quite SALTY to say the least.....I mean, really neat looking.. If anyone wants to see a photo of just HOW cool, email me directly. .....What fun..... Fair winds Bob (949) 489-8227 www.montgomeryboats.com

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Re: M_Boats: anchor kits
by chbenneck＠juno.com 25 May '04

25 May '04

Hi Doug, Your data on the anchors is fine, but to make a judgement you have to answer.................... are you only anchoring for lunch? are you spending the night on board? how protected is your usual anchoring area: very, / moderately, / or not at all? are you only anchoring in light to moderate conditions: assuming you are out of the water or at a marina if it really blows? Anchoring is an art, and there are so many variables involved that you can only give rough approximations. On my M15 I carry three anchors, each with chain and rodes. It's a hang over from my big boat. You can never have too many anchors on board. Bottoms vary widely - requiring different anchoring "tools". A Danforth is great in sand and mud but terrible if you have heavy weed. I simply won't go to the bottom. That's when you need something like a CQR or a Bruce to do the job. They get to the bottom and dig in. If it really starts blowing, I want two anchors out, with lots of rode, holding me in place. That still leaves me with a storm anchor as an insurance policy. I may never need it, but it sure is a nice feeling when the wind is whistling in the rigging, other boats are dragging, to know that I still have more available in an emergency. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO

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1980 M17 on EBAY
by Al Williams 25 May '04

25 May '04

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63729&ite…

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RE: M_Boats: 1980 M17 on EBAY
by Hughston, Larry 25 May '04

25 May '04

Please keep me posted on any M-15 listings in the western states. Thanks for the info. ---Larry in Sacramento. -----Original Message----- From: Al Williams [mailto:ddaystrom@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 9:37 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: 1980 M17 on EBAY http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63729&item =2479844313&rd=1&tc=photo _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: m15
by Hughston, Larry 25 May '04

25 May '04

NOW I know what a great little sailboat these Montgomery 15s and 17s are! Wisdom comes late to some of us. ---Larry (boatless in Sacramento) Hughston....Fair Winds -----Original Message----- From: doug [mailto:dougl20002001@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:49 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: m15 Omaha Nebraska to Houston, TX to get mine. An E-Bay baby. --- chbenneck(a)juno.com wrote: > Hi Larry, > > Just to give you some perspective to the lengths we > go to get a > Montgomery 15; > > Bill Riker drove from Pittsburgh to Houston, TX and > back to get his. > > I drove from Hartford, CT to Panama City, FL and > back to get mine - > bought sight unseen over the phone from the owner > who was in Sausalito, > CA. > > Great boats: lots of fun; wonderful > performers.............. > > Connie > > M15 #400 LEPPO > Glastonbury, CT > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Wood Monty?
by Steve & Diana Parsons 25 May '04

25 May '04

I ran across a boat at a local Portland brokerage that has me a little curious. It is a M dink, but purportedly with a wood hull. Here's the link if you are interested. Regards, Steve http://www.yachtworld.com/thesailinglife/

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Re: M_Boats: Wood Monty?
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 25 May '04

25 May '04

In a message dated 5/23/2004 9:19:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, sparsons(a)canby.com writes: http://www.yachtworld.com/thesailinglife/ It's a fiberglass dink with wood rubrails. The ad is written up wrong.

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Re: M_Boats: m15
by Steve R. 25 May '04

25 May '04

OK, me too. Lexington, KY to Houston. 6:00 AM, six lanes of traffic bumper-to-bumper. Maybe no one in Houston has time to sail? steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- doug <dougl20002001(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Omaha Nebraska to Houston, TX to get mine. An E-Bay baby.

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Re: M_Boats: m15
by chbenneck＠juno.com 24 May '04

24 May '04

Hi Larry, Just to give you some perspective to the lengths we go to get a Montgomery 15; Bill Riker drove from Pittsburgh to Houston, TX and back to get his. I drove from Hartford, CT to Panama City, FL and back to get mine - bought sight unseen over the phone from the owner who was in Sausalito, CA. Great boats: lots of fun; wonderful performers.............. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO Glastonbury, CT

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RE: M_Boats: m15 in oregon
by Hughston, Larry 24 May '04

24 May '04

It's looking even worse now for the available M-15s. Our usual ad page have seven "Montgomery 15 Wanted" ads and only the '81 in Kanas is available for purchase. This is getting discouraging. But at least this proves I have good taste in small and high quality sailboats. I just can't get exicited about any other type of sailboat. Fair Winds all, Larry Hughston in Sacramento. -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 4:35 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: m15 in oregon You're welcome, Larry. If the adage is true that an owner doesn't choose their boat, but a boat chooses her owner, then I hope your M15 finds you soon. :-) Fair winds, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: m15 in oregon I thank you for the good info. I may have burned a bridge to far. ----L -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:25 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: m15 in oregon I traveled 1,620 miles to retrieve my '84 M17 . . . It had been surveyed (at my expense), but I paid substantially more than the surveyor said the boat was worth: I had been looking for an M17 for months, and the surveyor pegged his estimate to what he found on the MSOG site in one evening. I could only secure the loan on the amount the [in this case] uninformed said it was worth, and, having no cash at the time, borrowed the difference at a higher unsecured rate. I paid less than what the Oregon M15 owner is asking, but not significantly less: And his boat is a '91, and as Scott said, "The '91 has the lead ballast and several other improvements." So I paid insignificantly less for a 7-years-older boat that had the problematic steel-shot ballast, rather than the lead. The boat I bought needed some new hardware and a lot of cosmetic work. Looking at Nor'Sea's website, it looks as if the difference in cost between a new Monty 15' with trailer and a new Monty 17' with trailer is about $5,700.00 so I know I'm comparing apples and oranges. But what I'm trying to suggest is that Scott might be onto something: " . . . the price [of the M15 in Oregon] seems quite reasonable if it is as advertised." Another survey and you'll have spent $5,600.00 on the 10-years-older Kansas M15 if the asking price is firm. The Oregon sounds like a good deal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of these are available? The survey came out good. I was sent a written report, the cost was $300. I am stuck here in Sacramento so I thought it might be worth a shot. The only thing that was noted was a dry tire on the trailer and a few minor things that were not safety issues. The report included a visual on the motor also. -----Larry -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:Bobeeg@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:49 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of these are available? Larry How did the survey come out? Where any problems found and how much did the surveyor charge? Just curious..! Bob Hughston, Larry wrote: The Seller in Oregon got offended when I politely asked if there was any room negotiation on the price. His ad reads " asking price $5995.00". To me when the word "asking price" is used I take that to mean there might be room for discussion of the final price. That's the Montgomery 15 I paid to be surveyed. ---L -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:54 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: m15 . . . http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm . . . none of these are available? Reference #: 227 For Sale: 1991 Montgomery 15 Location: Corvallis, Oregon Seller: Dave Hurst Email: n1144n(a)comcast.net Description: Wife wants bigger boat. Boat has seen little use since new. Comes with 2003 Nissan 4HP 4-stroke (about 10 hours) and trailer. Everything is in excellent condition. Coast Guard safety equipment, dock lines, fenders, life jackets, boat hook. Engine has internal fuel tank and also can run on Nissan 3 gal external fuel tank. Price:$ 5995.00 ---------------------------------------- Reference #: 232 For Sale: 1985 Montgomery 15 Location: Arlington, VA Seller: Tom Nichols Email: nichot(a)aol.com Description: 1985 Montgomery 15 in good condition and never bottom painted, 1995 galvanized steel trailer, 1996 3hp Johnson with internal tank, porti-potti, cockpit and v-berth cushions, and transom ladder. Sails include tanbark main and jib, spinaker, and genoa. Price:$ 3500 ---------------------------------------- Reference #: 223 For Sale: 1981 Montgomery 15 Location: Kansas City, MO Seller: Michael Egger Email: sheiffus(a)alliedmaterials.com Description: call for details 816-313-6124. Solar panel, Jack rabbit marine charge regulator, nice electric panel installed in custom inside dash, cd player, interior cabin lighting and nav lights, porta potti, jib downhaul, bow pulpit, new battery, trail rite trailer, 4hp electric trolling motor. Price:$ 5000 ---------------------------------------- Reference #: 197 For Sale: 1984 Montgomery 15 Boat Name:"Serenity" Location: Lake Nockamixon , Bucks County , PA Seller: John U Email: glennskisail(a)enter.net Description: New Main and Jib , Roller Furling with u v covering , New rigging lines ,sunbrella main sail cover, nav lights , depth finder with temp, speed, and fish , rebuilt swing keel pivot , '95 Mercury sailmaster 4 H P motor on new mount----------motor rebuilt 2001 , Fully re conditioned trail rite trailer , standard ivory hull with blue sheer stripe , black plexiglass companionway door , bow pulpit , new cockpit cushions , etc . She is truly a beauty and painful to part with. Call John at 610 - 287 - 5350 . Price:$ 5500.00 ---------------------------------------- http://msog.org/cfmods/M-boats4sail.cfm ---------------------------------------- To change or delete information in this list, or for problems or questions, send email to msog(a)msog.org. If you need a change made, send it to me and I'll be happy to take care of it. ---------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:18 PM Subject: M-15 Bob, here is the URL for the website with the Montgomery 1s5 listed in the "Ms" alphabetically. There are three togethers, two sold and a 2002 Montgomery 15 at $9000. "not for sale". Hmmm ----Later, Larry (Still looking) Hughston -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:Bobeeg@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:02 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M-15 Larry.... I'll keep my ear open for any used 15s. It has been my observation that used Montgomery 15s are becoming a rare species. 5 years ago they were available and correctly coveted for what they were. Over the years and because of the new M_15s, the price of the used boats have shot up more than double. What used M_15 on the msog.org site is 'not for sale'? In your research, are any of the others already SOLD? We can update Doug on this info. Fair winds Bob Hughston, Larry wrote: Bob, These sites are not well maintained. It can be really frustrating! For some reason there is also an ad listing a Montgomery 15 that is "Not for Sale"....makes no sense. Keep looking every day if you can. ----Larry -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:Bobeeg@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:35 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M-15 There seems to be 4 listed for sale on msog.org. Are these already SOLD? One each in Kansas, Pennsylvania, Oregon and Virginia. (maybe some of these are no longer available and the for sale ad has not been removed yet?) Fair winds Bob Hughston, Larry wrote: Mr. Wells, I too am looking for a Montgomery 15 here on the left hand coast. If you hear of any for sale from Washington state to San Diego please let me know. I assume you have been checking all the relevant web sites. Good Luck, ---L -----Original Message----- From: Alan Wells [mailto:agwells@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:47 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M-15 I am looking for a Montgomery 15 is there one for sale at present. Thanks Alan Wells Charlotte NC _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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