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Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions
by bownez＠juno.com 06 May '10

06 May '10

Hi Joe, The M23 has a different gooseneck than the M17. I believe these were a special design/custom build by JM himself. I recently had mine straightened and reinforced by a sheetmetal working buddy. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4be2c0bd6f0882ebde4st06vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions
by eisenee＠aol.com 06 May '10

06 May '10

In my opinion trying to do double duty is going to result in either a wrecked gin pole or a very heavy whisker pole Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Ward <northwave(a)telus.net> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 9:09 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions Thanks Howard, For some raising their mast in the way you suggest orks fine. For me with my torn rotators and horrendous wait for edical services in the north of BC, I use a gin pole approach to essen any further injury. I have used a wooden gin pole in previous easons but want to add the whisker pole so that it will do double uty and furthering the utility of what is on board. I'll check on he medium pole offerings on the net and look to either purchase one r buy the components and build to siut my situation. _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions
by bownez＠juno.com 06 May '10

06 May '10

Bruce, Us M23 owners use our booms as a gin pole with a bridal harness. We raise it backwards (aft) once the mast foot is pinned in the tabernacle as opposed to raising it forward from the rear (M17). A consideration for you? Bones ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4be16982d9d6f31308est05vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions
by Bruce Ward 06 May '10

06 May '10

Thanks Howard, For some raising their mast in the way you suggest works fine. For me with my torn rotators and horrendous wait for medical services in the north of BC, I use a gin pole approach to lessen any further injury. I have used a wooden gin pole in previous seasons but want to add the whisker pole so that it will do double duty and furthering the utility of what is on board. I'll check on the medium pole offerings on the net and look to either purchase one or buy the components and build to siut my situation.

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One reef or two reefs
by Andrei Caldararu 06 May '10

06 May '10

I am thinking about ordering a new main sail from EP for my M-17, and I was wondering if I should go with one set of reef points or two. The difference is about $90 (the total cost is about $700). I plan on sailing often on bigger water (Lake Superior, Lake Michigan), so I thought the ability to reef more would be useful. On the other hand the smallest foresail I have is a 100% jib, so maybe getting a smaller one should be my first priority... Opinions? Thanks, Andrei.

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M15 on Mpls Craig's List
by bownez＠juno.com 06 May '10

06 May '10

Anyone looking for an M15 in the Midwest? I have not seen the boat in person. FWIW.. Later, Bones http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/1725808137.html ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4be22e317dada391564st01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Side-stay chain plates
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 May '10

05 May '10

Greg - Yes and No, they need to be threaded (tapped) OR you need to have nuts on the backside of the aluminum bar stock and longer bolts with flat washers - be sure to use an anti-corrosive such as Lanocote (Forespar) on the aluminum and SS fasteners. Butter 'em up. Quality fasteners are in order. You could use SS bar stock but that would be 'fun' to drill and tap - Bronze would also work here. GO In a message dated 5/4/2010 8:50:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pattiraymond(a)sbcglobal.net writes: So do they need to be threaded? ________________________________ From: Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 5:19:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Side-stay chain plates So buy some round bar stock & make new ones. Sent from my iPhone :-) On May 4, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Patti Raymond <pattiraymond(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I guess this is what you'de call them. Mine where loose so I tried tightening them and of course the 30 yr old bolt spapped like a brittle bone,,,no sweat I'll just slide the bolt out and replace....wrong...the backing bar? is aluminum, the bolts SS and the bars are threaded and the bolts are not going to come out...can I drill out the old bolts and just thru bolt back together or is the threading essential for strength...can I just toss the old backer and use a flat SS backing-plate...or are these a common item I can purchase at my daily sojourn to West Marine? Clear as mud....Greg Adams....#151 > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Whisker / gin pole suggestions
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 May '10

05 May '10

Bruce - I am a fellow double torn rotator cuff/biceps tendon gimp, just be careful. MacGregor Yachts had a great inexpensive gin pole they used for their boats (M-25 and M-26) I would check with them for its availability. The brackets for the mast should fit like it was made for your boat. Your gin pole is loaded in compression and your whisker pole is loaded laterally ( or shear?) so to have one piece of tubing serve for both duties would be a VERY heavy whisker pole (not desirable at all) and would have some interesting inboard end bracketry. I have used a Forespar ADJ6-12 with good results. We did wrap it around a shroud the first time out in the heat of battle - cut it off, reset the end fitting and it has been working fine since - I guess it was "too long!" LOL. Sorry to not have a one size fits all solution here but I don't think the uses are compatible. PS I have a tall rig 17 and I just cajole someone into helping me with the mast (quality beer helps here) or if I had to solo I would use Howard's approach. Additional help is offered by using an adjustable rear mast carrier that extends to get up over the worst of the mast 'hump' when stepping the thing. The mast carrier extended is a big help. Be Careful - you don't want to have to replace those inserts in your shoulders - Have Fun, Go Sailing GO M-16 #316a "LB/GF" Team Geezer Racing and Cruzin....Old and In the Way. In a message dated 5/4/2010 5:11:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, northwave(a)telus.net writes: Greetings, I fly a furling 135% head sail on my M17 and want to build a whisker pole to do double duty : a, use as a gin pole with mast raising, and b, as a down wind pole for the headsail. Any opinions regarding 1.0 versus 1.25 inch diameter or larger and your experiences would help me in complementing my rig. Thanks, Bruce _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Side-stay chain plates
by eisenee＠aol.com 05 May '10

05 May '10

Sorry Greg. I called you Rick

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Side-stay chain plates
by eisenee＠aol.com 05 May '10

05 May '10

Rick I would back it with SS but don't know where to get it Eldor M17 Motu iti

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