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Re: M_Boats: Tow vehicle
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 20 May '10

20 May '10

John, Sorry to hear about the sour engines - I have had a three 240/300 Fords and they are amazing in my experience - I like them sooo much I built one into my decade+ long project truck - a 47 Ford 1/2 ton panel truck - 4.9L, C6, 9" rear @ 3.25, power disc brakes on front straight axle with rack and pinion manual steering. If a 4.9L six is built right, they are known to be one of the best grunt machines around - tens of 1000's of generators,cranes,trucks,well pumps, airport tugs,welding machines etc use this engine as a power unit. They are a bit thirsty but pull like a mule on crack! 105,000 for three engines is BAD MilesPerEngine numbers, that should be <1/2 worn out for one engine. I have had two big sixes go way beyond that kind of mileage and they have been 'hand built' by people I trust - takes a lickin and ....... Generally they a are long lived unit with seven main bearings. PS. the carbureted version is easier to manage and frequently runs better than an injected one - they get a bit complicated with too many sensors and burdened with 'wiring' on the FI models. I had a 67 long bed three speed w/OD and could get 36 mpg if I babied the thing on the highway!! I will use my Ford to pull the boat - someday! LOL Montgomery content - the Montgomery project has interfered with the completion of the truck project - that is what I tell my lovely wife who supports her old mans penchant for weird toys! Gotta love a girl who lets you play! GO In a message dated 5/19/2010 7:01:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, saltm17(a)aol.com writes: Just got back from a month in Hawaii and waded through the 300+ messagesin my inbox! It's been some time sincethe talk on towing vehicles but here is my take on the subject. When I bought Miss T in 1985 I towed her with a 1976 ToyotaSR5 pickup. That truck did an amazingjob, easily pulling Miss T across Montana,but I was worried about how well it could stop that rig in a panic situation. Luckily I never had the chance to find out,but the concern lead me to ask Jerry Montgomery what he recommended. At that time Jerry was delivering his newboats across the country and was using a Ford F150 with the 300 cubic inch,in-line six cylinder engine. I found aused one in 1986 and have driving it ever since. Old Blue is a gas guzzler to be sure but it pulledme and Miss T for over 60,000 miles all across the country including a fewcrossings of the western mountains. I have had two panic stops with Old Blue both due to someonecutting in front of me and then having to stand on the brakes. Both times I was able to stop in time but theincidents left me debating adding surge brakes to the trailer. That little extra braking power would havehelped. As of now I haven't added thembut the mental debate continues. However Old Blue has also had three rebuilt engines put inher, the last one a year ago. Now I'mconcerned that if we get above 60 mph I'll be arrested for littering; it's timefor a change. I'm looking at three trucks: Ford F150, Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram. The first two have a high rating in Consumerreports based upon fewer repairs needed compared to other trucks, The Dodge Ram is included because it is alsoConsumer Report recommended for it's pulling ratings. Which one I get willdepend which has the best deal but I have one requirement: AirConditioning!. I bought Old Blue in Montana and didn't thinkI would mind not having AC since I had no plans to leave that state. Fuzzy Thinking! Most times keeping the window open is cooling enough but when I was trailering MissT from San CarlosMexico to Tucson, the temperature was 113, and while Ihad to keep the window open a bit, a 113 degree blast of 50 mph wind was like ablast furnace. When I got to TucsonI was more like an over cooked linguini than a human. I sat on the AC in the motel room for quitesome time until I finally started to cool down. One other observation, this time about rebuilt motors. After a total of 105,000 miles over all and 3rebuilt engines I've come to the conclusion that the company thinking behindthem is that whoever put a rebuilt engine in a vehicle will soon sell it. sothere isn't any great need to put a lot of time into building a longlasting engine. They did give me 5 years and 70,000 miles onthe rebuilt engine and made good on the warranty when the engine(s) died, buttwo engines later - and still within that warranty, I put in my last rebuiltengine. John Edwards Miss T M17 372 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Chespeake bay
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 20 May '10

20 May '10

In a message dated 5/19/2010 6:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wcampion(a)aol.com writes: Solomon's Island That sounds great. Could you give us a clue where Solomon's Island is located. Dorothy Eisen M-17 Motu iti fixed keel

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New Member (again)
by Leighton Smith 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hello Everyone, I just rejoined the list a few days ago. I was a member a while back but dropped off as I couldn't seem to fit a M boat into my budget at the time. Too many other toys I suppose. Well, now I have an M15. It is in pretty good shape with only one previous owner. It does need new wood hand rails and companionway guides which I'll replace when I've finished bringing the hull finish up to a nice shine.Seems the previous owner neglected to remove and dry the bunk cushions and storage covers after swamping the boat. So she has no cushions. If any of you have replaced cushions and have any hints it would be greatly appreciated. I'm in NV near lake Mohave/Cottonwood cove. If there are any other M boaters in the area give me a shout. Smitty

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Chespeake bay
by eisenee＠aol.com 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hey Montgomery Sailors We will be in the D.C. , Maryland, Deleware, area next week. Traveling by R.V. (no boat this trip) If anyone out there has next week off we would love to do a daysail in the Chespeake or anywhere in New England. After this we are headed up the coast to Maine. Would love to hear from anyone in these areas. Lets see if we can get together. Eldor and Dorothy Eisen M17 Motu iti

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Re: M_Boats: I am a new member
by eisenee＠aol.com 19 May '10

19 May '10

Montgomerys re a little more expensive but well worth the differance. Used ones don't stay on the market long. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: hillking7 <hillking7(a)comcast.net> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 11:05 am Subject: M_Boats: I am a new member Hello: I am just another sailor that enjoys the sea. I have been sailing about 30 years. riginally, I built and sailed a double ended small "duck boat" with a Hobie ail. ollowing that, it has been sailing with friends on various Catalinas and a unter for a 6 week trip from S.F. to Cabo. That included partaking in the '08 aHa. Now, I really remember the exciting times that I had in the small boat. I will robably end up with a Montgomery or Potter,if things work out... Bruce King air Oaks,CA _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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I am a new member
by hillking7＠comcast.net 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hello: I am just another sailor that enjoys the sea. I have been sailing about 30 years. Originally, I built and sailed a double ended small "duck boat" with a Hobie sail. Following that, it has been sailing with friends on various Catalinas and a Hunter for a 6 week trip from S.F. to Cabo. That included partaking in the '08 BaHa. Now, I really remember the exciting times that I had in the small boat. I will probably end up with a Montgomery or Potter,if things work out... Bruce King Fair Oaks,CA

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Frank Dye
by Doug Kelch 19 May '10

19 May '10

One of my inspirational books about small boat cruising is Beach Cruising and coastal camping by Ida Lewis who took me to Frank Dye. He had a fascinating series of small boat adventures. Frank and Margarat's books make fasinating reading. His legacy will live for many generations. The following is from the DCA club " I have just received a telephone call from Margaret Dye to tell me that her husband Frank passed away peacefully yesterday, aged 80. In her words, he lived his adventurous life to the full, but always quietly, modestly and without grumbling, and the manner of his passing was in keeping with that. To hear her talk of the times they'd had together was a privilege - such a humbling experience to hear at first hand of those experiences I've previously read about in their various books. And not just Frank, too, but to hear her waxing eloquent about Shackleton, her great hero, and the worst smallboat journey ever made in the James Caird from Elephant Island to South Georgia, and that she has always been so proud to see the James Caird and their own Wayfarer close together in the museum. Frank had a bad winter, I gather, and had not been able to enjoy life outside, on and off the water, for some time. I had the impression that he had decided for himself that it was time to go. Margaret was with him yesterday when he set sail for the last time. She felt that she ought to make sure that their fellow openboaters in the DCA ought to be among the first to hear of his demise. I will place something in the next issue of the journal, but if anyone wishes to add their eulogies, by all means send them to me - but do it soon, as publication date is at hand. Keith. >From another DCA member "I was privileged to meet Frank at one of the Beale Park meetings, where he signed his book for me. I found him to be a modest man, who spoke the language of our common interest. I also remember his exciting talk given to the DCA at the AGM at Rutland Water. Frank's adventures, including sailing a Wayfarer to Norway and voyaging from Florida to Canada, were made without electronic aids other than rudimentary RDF, and are an inspiration to everyone who cruises in little boats. He would never contemplate putting others at risk to rescue him. Next time you are out of sight of land, crossing a harbour bar when it's a bit rough or just enjoying the wildlife of a deserted creek, you are doing what Frank would have us do. Without the trail blazing voyages he made, we would not at the back of our minds have the knowledge that dinghies can do incredible things. Our lives might never have discovered the true possibilities and joys of voyaging in little boats. My sympathies to Margaret at this time, whose book has brought many of the adventures of the Dye's to our attention." Thanks Doug Kelch

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Re: M_Boats: Check out Montgomery-12, Sail Boat
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 16 May '10

16 May '10

Nice breasthook! A 'little' rich in price for condition me thinks. GO In a message dated 5/15/2010 5:24:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, billwick(a)gmail.com writes: I see there is a M10 on Sailing Texas. http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery10100.html On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:49 AM, <GILASAILR(a)aol.com> wrote: > _Click here: Montgomery-12, Sail Boat_ > (http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/boa/1718645683.html) > > Found on Craigslist - somebody is looking for this boat. > I can drive by if someone from out of town is serious. > > GO. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Check out Montgomery-12, Sail Boat
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 16 May '10

16 May '10

I have a friend here in town that may be driving back to Twin Cities - I will check. GO In a message dated 5/15/2010 6:08:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, bownez(a)juno.com writes: Gary, I wish it was closer, I'd love to own it for the city lakes. Anybody driving this way?? Bones in Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bee9c9d680b3514b12st01vuc _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: NFIW but I had to forward this to the group
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 16 May '10

16 May '10

Thanx Gary, It's interesting material. I've always valued your suggestions. I would be interested in opinions regarding whether we should consider this an option on the Sage 17. It would not be difficult and could be added to the Teak and stainless options planned. Is this something that would be perceived as a "good" thing on a new pocket cruiser or not? Given a choice, with the corresponding cost differences, what would you select? Thanx. sal M15 - "Justus" - 1986 - #361 M23 - #2 - being built In a message dated 5/11/2010 11:09:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, GILASAILR(a)aol.com writes: I know it is commercial but these are exactly what some of us 'tree huggin low maint.' types are looking for!!GO (http://www.catalinadirect.com/) Dear Gary, For years we've asked our vendors to produce low maintenance handrails that are a match to Catalina's original teak. Until now, no amount of coaxing, cajoling, or begging got results. Guess what? The current economic conditions have convinced our vendors they should get off their duff and try something new! Teak handrails are the most labor intensive part on your boat to maintain. If you'd like to spend more time sailing and less time on maintenance, install a set of our new StarBoard handrails. We now have a selection of the most popular sizes in stock. They are manufactured from high quality StarBoard Marine Plastic. It is a UV stabilized high density polyethylene, so it won't degrade in the sun. This is the same product Catalina Yachts uses on all of their new boats in place of teak. Just swab them clean as you scrub down your deck and you're done! Features: * Zero maintenance for more sailing and less work * They are highly UV resistant. They wont fade, discolor, or deteriorate. * Made from beefy 1" stock. * Same footprint as the original teak handrails for ease of installation. * Same shape and look as your original teak handrails for original equipment look. * Color matched to other plastic replacement parts supplied by Catalina Direct. * Longer life and far less maintenance for the same price as teak. Available in five popular sizes: * Single loop - 13" long * Four loop - 43" long * Five loop - 53" long * Seven loop - 73" long Click on the appropriate photo. You'll be taken to the appropriate page of our web site for more detailed information. Fair Winds! (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1924) _Single loop _ (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1924) (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1925) _Four loop handrail _ (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1925) (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1955) _Five loop handrail_ (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1955) (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1925) (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1927) _Seven loop _ (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1927) _handrail_ (http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=1927) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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