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Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: racing my M23
by Larry E Yake 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

>So when is the next San Juan trip? Annual? Bi-annual? >Jeff Probably semi-annual. Larry

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Mast Rake Forestay
by Hughston, Larry 16 Jun '10

16 Jun '10

Bob. I had the shrouds shortened in order to rake the mast 8 to 10 inches. Now the bow line adjuster is too short. Do I go with a longer pinned adjuster or is there a short t-buckle I can use? The adjuster on now is a shorty, about 5 inches. The adjuster is about 3 inches too short. ----Thanks Bob. -----Larry Hughston hull no. 189 / M-15 in Sacramento

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Re: M_Boats: Hit by lightning? Let me know!
by bownez＠juno.com 01 Jun '10

01 Jun '10

Hello Gordon and M-Boat Gang, I deal with UPS/battery back up systems and have seen many units that have taken a lightning hit. Some survive, some are turned into burned junk. The UPS system usually does it job by sacrificing itself to protect the expensive load equipment. However, what I see in the field, is that lightning will do whatever it pleases. You think it will follow one path and it takes another. It is completely unpredictable. Is a grounding system a good idea on a sailboat? I would say absolutely. I have read of sailors that will clamp heavy jumper cables to standing rigging and drag the ends in the water. Could that save you and your boat? Maybe. I'm thrilled to watch thunderstorms as well, but I'd also like to be around long enough to spend my IRA. Summer has arrived in Mn. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

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Little Breeze
by Jennifer Tiernay 31 May '10

31 May '10

Sal, you are most welcome to write. We have not done any modifications but the previous owner did some minor changes that weren't permanent. We replaced the centerboard. The original fell off while we were sailing. Otherwise, LB has not undergone any major modifications. We will be leaving the island of Kauai before the end of June. Arrangements should be made in advance of our departure date. Aloha Nui, Jen P.S. Little Breeze will be coming to the other island with us if the Montgomery folks don't take her. Message: 17 Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 22:10:35 EDT From: SALGLESSER(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Little Breeze Message-ID: <3b4ff.305c1ffe.3933231b(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Jen, Thanx for your reply. Sorry to be slow in response. Overseas on business. I could be bats, (probably bats anyway) but I believe that Little Breeze and Michael's story are an important part of the history of the Hess/Montgomery design lineage. Sometimes this history is lost. Is Little Breeze still as she was for Michael's passage; cockpit, etc. or has she been modified? Let me do some checking. I'll email you if that's ok? sal M15 Justus 83 #361 M23 #2 being built In a message dated 5/24/2010 10:45:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gently444(a)gmail.com writes: Aloha Michael and Sal ~ Michael, we'll try and take some pictures if we sell her. When we move over to the Big Island, I'll be out of touch for awhile until we figure the best route for internet. When I have time, I can go through my pictures and pick out any photos we have of her and send them to you. The original main sail with #15 was in bad repair but the rest of the sails were good. A gentleman from this list arranged to send us a replacement sail which you'll see in some of the videos. Ron can't remember if he kept the old mainsail but he may have just for posterity. I sure hope so. Sal, Ron's asking $5,000 for boat and trailer. You'd have to check with Matson Shipping to see what it would cost to send her back to the mainland. She'd ship from Nawiliwili Harbor to Honolulu and then from Honolulu to the mainland. Jen and Ron

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Re: M_Boats: Little Breeze
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 30 May '10

30 May '10

Hi Jen, Thanx for your reply. Sorry to be slow in response. Overseas on business. I could be bats, (probably bats anyway) but I believe that Little Breeze and Michael's story are an important part of the history of the Hess/Montgomery design lineage. Sometimes this history is lost. Is Little Breeze still as she was for Michael's passage; cockpit, etc. or has she been modified? Let me do some checking. I'll email you if that's ok? sal M15 Justus 83 #361 M23 #2 being built In a message dated 5/24/2010 10:45:22 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gently444(a)gmail.com writes: Aloha Michael and Sal ~ Michael, we'll try and take some pictures if we sell her. When we move over to the Big Island, I'll be out of touch for awhile until we figure the best route for internet. When I have time, I can go through my pictures and pick out any photos we have of her and send them to you. The original main sail with #15 was in bad repair but the rest of the sails were good. A gentleman from this list arranged to send us a replacement sail which you'll see in some of the videos. Ron can't remember if he kept the old mainsail but he may have just for posterity. I sure hope so. Sal, Ron's asking $5,000 for boat and trailer. You'd have to check with Matson Shipping to see what it would cost to send her back to the mainland. She'd ship from Nawiliwili Harbor to Honolulu and then from Honolulu to the mainland. Jen and Ron Message: 8 Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:49:00 +0900 From: sal glesser <salglesser(a)AOL.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 in Hawaii Message-ID: <AANLkTimupMgkrT4p9-H7Yam_rgOaiRoGklGezWt_DC7z(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Jen, Ron, Little Breeze is a boat with a story. Jerry Montgomery spoke with us about her. She is in Kauai now? What is your asking price? salngail M15 Justus 83 #361 M23 #2 being built Jennifer Tiernay <gently444(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Aloha all ~ We're the owners of Little Breeze, the 15 foot that sailed from >California. After we purchased it, we put it on a trailer and it was in land >storage at the Ala Wai Small Boat Harbor. Since then, we've moved to Kauai >and that's why it is no longer seen at the marina. We are now getting ready >to move to the Big Island and consider selling her due to the high cost of >shipping the boat and trailer - If Michael Mann would like to have first >options and his wife is reading this, let us know. I know you have a deep >connection with little sailboat. > >I'll post it on craigslist for Kauai. If we cannot sell it here we may just >end up taking her. Aloha Nui, Jen and Ron _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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M-15 Jiffy reefing 2nd Reef point
by Neil Knopf 29 May '10

29 May '10

I would like to ask the group if I should add a 2nd Schaefer Block and Ronstan V cleat on my boom slightly behind the 2nd reef point clew ? Neil M-279

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Re: M_Boats: Chespeake bay
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 28 May '10

28 May '10

You're a good man Skip. Hope it works out and you guys have fun. (Eldor and Dorothy are a hoot). sal In a message dated 5/19/2010 7:48:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, wcampion(a)aol.com writes: Dorothy, Solomons is located in southern Maryland at the furthest tip of Calvert County at the mouth of the Patuxent River where it dumps into the Chesapeake Bay. I hope we are able to work something out. It would be nice to meet up with some other Monty owners. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Eeeisen(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 9:06 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Chespeake bay n a message dated 5/19/2010 6:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, campion(a)aol.com writes: Solomon's Island hat sounds great. Could you give us a clue where Solomon's Island is ocated. orothy Eisen -17 Motu iti ixed keel ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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2006 M-15 $11,500 Spokane CraigsList
by R.K.Graves 28 May '10

28 May '10

A friend told me about this M15 for sale. http://spokane.craigslist.org/boa/1754340495.html 2006 model with galv trailer, Honda 2hp, tanbark sails, CDI furler, sail cover, boom tent, bimini, boat cover, bottom paint, anchor. Hardly used; excellent condition. 509-453-9787 or 509-833-7059. Randy Graves

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