December 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: Does anyone need a pattern of the M15 center board?
by Hughston, Larry 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Norm, my centerboard was SO bad, I got new one from Bob Eeg. The old one was beyond repair and had swolen with rust due to salt water use and neglect. -----Larry hull # 189, M-15 -----Original Message----- From: Norm Bundek [mailto:nbundek@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:16 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Does anyone need a pattern of the M15 center board? I thought I read in some past message that someone lost or wanted a pattern for the M15 centerboard. If you do, contact me. I've got mine out during the refurb. I did find a very hidden problem in the center board holes for the pin and pennant. There were hair line cracks in the holes. Being an obsessive, I explored the holes with a dremel tool. I found rusted voids! I have removed a lot of material and rust from the holes. I used Rust N ME to neutralize the rust and filled the voids and other hair line cracks with 5 minute epoxy. This should stop any water from entering the centerboard and strengthen the hole. If you take yours out, be sure to check this area. Norm M15 #172 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: consider the sourse
by MC Carpenter 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

I see that your boat is number 064 is that right???? I hear that the older boats were built a little different but still keeping the outside measurements. have you ever compared your to a new model. example the mast was changed a little in height, some had a cut out for motor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith(a)itron.com> To: "MC Carpenter" <southisland2(a)earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: consider the sourse No problem Michael. We hear this stuff like clockwork every year--someone gets pissed off and Bob gets defensive. You're right. Let's sail away. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: MC Carpenter [mailto:southisland2@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:37 PM To: Smith, Tom Subject: Re: M_Boats: consider the sourse sorry I got carry away lets sail away ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith(a)itron.com> To: "MC Carpenter" <southisland2(a)earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: consider the sourse Whatever Michael. Can we get back to sailboat-related topics and let these boys take their business outside? t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of MC Carpenter Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:20 PM To: Montgomery Groups Subject: M_Boats: consider the sourse To Bob, don't let those discourtesy remarks bother you. I have had some connection to the Monty group and you as a builder and I have always found the group to be knowledgeable and more than happy to help in any way and each time I have called the factory for information there has always been someone, sometimes yourself ready to be of immediate assistance. It is rare indeed to find a company owner will would call the prospective purchaser of a boat to assistant in getting the proper information ready for the sale, this you did and it was much appreciated. This was something you did not need to do and you did it fully knowing that there was no commission in it, You were looking out for the welfare of the Montgomery and that is a good thing. Michael Carpenter _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: RE: Jib leads - discovered technique
by Smith, Tom 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

So this technique is sort of a modified barber hauler approach, right? Since I mounted my qenoa track on the toe rail, I can't close the slot as much as I would like (and which would probably be possible if I'd mounted the track on the coaming instead). I've thought something like you suggest would solve this problem Doug. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of Doug Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:37 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: RE: Jib leads - discovered technique --- "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith@ititronom> wrote: > I do care about loose footed main sail shape and bottom paint and fair > leads on a Montgomery sailboat deck. I came acacross neat technique used in Flying Scots for adjusting the jib sheet leads. The Flying Scot has a jib fafairleadn a track but it is limited in length and leaves the slot more open than it should be or flattens the jib exexcessively The normal jib sheet in use is the leLeewardheet. The Flying Scot technique is to use the windward sheet to pull the jib clew to windward while using the leLeewardheet for tension. This will close the slot or increase the depth of the jib while sheeted in tight. I am looking forward to trying this in the Spring as the M15 has fixed locations for the stock fafairleads Doug KeKelch"Seas the Day" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Buying a new Monty- This is not the Forum?!?
by Smith, Tom 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

>From your post Gary, I'm getting the idea you think discussion on this list will correct Mr. Eeg's perceived bad business practices? Or that a disgruntled buyer's perceived grievances will be rectified? Dream on. You'll get a prolonged bitch session. Frankly, I don't care about how Bob does or does not do business. And I don't care if some guy failed to do his homework prior to buying a boat (If you've been on this list for a while, you know the current issue is way old, with tons of archival material for those with time to burn). I do care about loose footed main sail shape and bottom paint and fair leads on a Montgomery sailboat deck. That's the information I crave. In the meantime, as they say in my little river town Rick, buyer beware. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed

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Re: M_Boats: Buying a new Monty
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Ditto with Gary and Rick. Bill Pritchett - here always but normally lurking from Florida

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RE: M_Boats: Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organiz er?
by Hughston, Larry 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Mr. Bendek, send me more data on the Halyard Organizer. I looks like a great addition to any M-15 and is out of the way too at the mast base. -----Larry Hughston ........ Phone: (916) 375-4217 in Sacramento, CA. Email: larry.hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Thanks, ----L -----Original Message----- From: Norm Bundek [mailto:nbundek@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:02 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organizer? As part of my total refurb on #172, I just dropped out the center board. It was easier than I anticipated thanks to the prep done by reading every post on the Montgomery message board. I'm have a new stainless steel pin made and could some others made at the same time. While looking through every picture of like sized boats, I found a picture of a mast halyard organizer on a Potter site. I'm getting a price for this also. Let me know if your interested gettin one or both. You can see what the organizer looks like on one of my web sites: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/Monty15/halyardorganizer.htm Are there any Montgomery owners in the Ventura CA area? Norm M15 #172 Ventura, Ca _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organizer?
by Smith, Tom 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

I believe Judy Blumhorst has recommended Svendsen's for organizers in the past. Dwyer makes a couple sizes too that will probably work off the shelf. But I like the idea of a hole for connecting the vang--Dwyer doesn't provide that feature. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of Maria Jorge Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:45 AM To: Norm Bundek; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organizer? Norm: My mast halyard organizer looks similar to yours except I have a hole for the vang at the rear. It was made by Svendsen's Marine. Beautiful quality. Is that where you are getting yours? Maria M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Bundek" <nbundek(a)earthlink.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:02 AM Subject: M_Boats: Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organizer? As part of my total refurb on #172, I just dropped out the center board. It was easier than I anticipated thanks to the prep done by reading every post on the Montgomery message board. I'm have a new stainless steel pin made and could some others made at the same time. While looking through every picture of like sized boats, I found a picture of a mast halyard organizer on a Potter site. I'm getting a price for this also. Let me know if your interested gettin one or both. You can see what the organizer looks like on one of my web sites: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/Monty15/halyardorganizer.htm Are there any Montgomery owners in the Ventura CA area? Norm M15 #172 Ventura, Ca _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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positive flotation
by bo Swartwout 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

My M-15 has no foam for flotation anywhere. Where is it located on a new stock boat and are there any good substitutes for the foam that comes from the factory? Is it safe to do without? thanks, Bo

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Need a M15 center board pin and mast halyard organizer?
by Norm Bundek 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

As part of my total refurb on #172, I just dropped out the center board. It was easier than I anticipated thanks to the prep done by reading every post on the Montgomery message board. I'm have a new stainless steel pin made and could some others made at the same time. While looking through every picture of like sized boats, I found a picture of a mast halyard organizer on a Potter site. I'm getting a price for this also. Let me know if your interested gettin one or both. You can see what the organizer looks like on one of my web sites: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/Monty15/halyardorganizer.htm Are there any Montgomery owners in the Ventura CA area? Norm M15 #172 Ventura, Ca

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Re: M_Boats: Buying a new Monty- This is not the Forum?!?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

I could not agree less. I was in the Marine Industry (second generation) for approximately 30 years. I sold and sailed Montgomery Sailboats, as did my Father. I believe the name of this list is "Montgomery Boats", a list for all things about Montgomery Boats. If something is right- and much about the boats, designers, and builders is/has been right then lets hear about it. Lets make sure it stays 'right'. If something is not as smooth as possible then lets try, as a group with common interests, to work on a solution. I am glad Mr. Eeg is building the boat, makes my boat "a currently produced" model worth more than an "out of production" model. If the current process is not right, I am sure Mr. Eeg wants it rectified. I don't think 'sticking ones head in the sand' collectively is good for the Owners of Montgomery sailboats, I believe NO one on this list wants the marque to suffer a 'black eye', we are all proud of the product. Disclosure, airing ones views, sharing info., contacting others of similar interest are all products of the internet - like it or not. I, for one, need no more censorship. What I crave is information. Thanks for the soapbox. Back to lurking. Gary Oberbeck M-17 #316a

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