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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery sailboat list
by Larry E Yake 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

The penatrol will give you a nice satin sheen, but you'll still need to remove the oxidation first on that dark hull. Penatrol seems to "treat" the gel coat, like Armour All on vinyl, restoring the original luster. To get a real high gloss shine, there's no substitute for buffing, polishing, and waxing. Penatrol is just a lot easier, but the key is still the prep work. Although Tullamore's hull looks great in pictures, there are some blotchy areas where the deeper oxidation wasn't removed completely. As soon as the weather warms enough, I'll be wet sanding and then rebuffing the hull to take care of that, along with patching some nicks in the gel coat. Larry On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:31:30 -0500 "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell(a)ia4u.net> writes: > > Thanks, Craig. > > Looking forward to those pics. The buff deck sounds great, too! > > Thanks for the compliments. I'm glad you're enjoying the M-List. > > Per its leading proponent, Larry Yake, you may want to try the paint > additive > Penetrol to bring back your hull's shine. It should be used > carefully: You'd > probably want to read some posts about it on the M-List archives > before using it. > > Larry has used Penetrol very successfully on his '76 Monty, > Tullamore: Her hull > looks new and she's one of the prettiest M17's sailing . . . > http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=197153&c=1789789&p=start > > I'd eventually like a dark hull on my M17, possibly midnight blue, > but that will have > to wait 'til I can afford it and that'll be a long wait . . . > > Fair winds, > > Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CCW > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:52 AM > Subject: Montgomery sailboat list > > Hi Craig. I just bought this boat, and I don't have any pictures of > her yet. I'll be > happy to share them with the group though, when I take some. She is > the older style > M17 with the outboard cut out rather than a bracket. Why did they > change this feature > I wonder? Probably to keep a following sea out of the boat? The > older way seems > sturdier, a more solid mount, but I know these boats are supposed to > be able to make > it in the ocean. She does indeed have a green hull with a buff deck > and cockpit, and > appears never to have been repainted I believe it's the original gel > coat. I need to > do some oxidation buffing to the hull. The darker colors do seem to > get that oxidized > look sooner than the lighter ones. I had a black hulled Baja > speedboat once, and it > was notorious for looking shabby by the end of one season, but she > sure cleaned up > well! > > I enjoyed looking at your photos of Honshell. It's obvious that you > have lathered > much attention on her, and she looks amazing. It's inspiring to see > what can be done > to these little boats to make them even saltier looking. > > My boat has a Nissan 5 HP four stroke long shaft and that seems to > work well with the > boat. I tried a 4 HP suzuki single cyl engine on it too, and it had > an annoying > vibration down low. (It was a two stroke). > > Enjoying the posts. What an enthusiastic group! > > Craig Weagant > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Craig F. Honshell > To: weagant(a)pacifier.com > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 10:38 AM > Subject: Potters and Montgomerys > > Craig, Do you have digital pics of your M17? I would very, very, > VERY much like to > see a '78 M17 with a green hull! If you'd like to see my boat, > you'll find her at > this link: http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=195276&c=1789789&p=start > I haven't named > her yet, so she's listed on the link as simply, "Honshell" . . If > you have digital > pics of your Monty, I don't mind large attachments, so I'd love to > get them at this > address: chonshell(a)ia4u.net Fair winds! --Craig F. Honshell, > chonshell(a)ia4u.net; > '84 M17 #389 > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Montgomery sailboat list
by CCW 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Hi Craig. I just bought this boat, and I don't have any pictures of her yet. I'll be happy to share them with the group though, when I take some. She is the older style M17 with the outboard cut out rather than a bracket. Why did they change this feature I wonder? Probably to keep a following sea out of the boat? The older way seems sturdier, a more solid mount, but I know these boats are supposed to be able to make it in the ocean. She does indeed have a green hull with a buff deck and cockpit, and appears never to have been repainted I believe it's the original gel coat. I need to do some oxidation buffing to the hull. The darker colors do seem to get that oxidized look sooner than the lighter ones. I had a black hulled Baja speedboat once, and it was notorious for looking shabby by the end of one season, but she sure cleaned up well! I enjoyed looking at your photos of Honshell. It's obvious that you have lathered much attention on her, and she looks amazing. It's inspiring to see what can be done to these little boats to make them even saltier looking. My boat has a Nissan 5 HP four stroke long shaft and that seems to work well with the boat. I tried a 4 HP suzuki single cyl engine on it too, and it had an annoying vibration down low. (It was a two stroke). Enjoying the posts. What an enthusiastic group! Craig Weagant ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig F. Honshell To: weagant(a)pacifier.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Potters and Montgomerys Craig, Do you have digital pics of your M17? I would very, very, VERY much like to see a '78 M17 with a green hull! If you'd like to see my boat, you'll find her at this link: http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=195276&c=1789789&p=start I haven't named her yet, so she's listed on the link as simply, "Honshell" . . If you have digital pics of your Monty, I don't mind large attachments, so I'd love to get them at this address: chonshell(a)ia4u.net Fair winds! --Craig F. Honshell, chonshell(a)ia4u.net; '84 M17 #389

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new type of sail plan
by MC Carpenter 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

has anyone tried that new sail with the cut back head, it looks like a inserted mini claw at the top of the sail I hear it gives 5% more sail area for the same luff and foot

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RE: M_Boats: Buying a new Monty
by Shawn Boles 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

Ah the joys of email lists! Recall our common focus is the love of sailing the well designed and well built Montgomery boats. The rest is distraction. Cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:12 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Buying a new Monty I'm not sure which is worse, reading the argument or reading the comments from people saying not to do it. Rik _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: consider the sourse
by Smith, Tom 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

Whatever Michael. Can we get back to sailboat-related topics and let these boys take their business outside? t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of MC Carpenter Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:20 PM To: Montgomery Groups Subject: M_Boats: consider the sourse To Bob, don't let those discourtesy remarks bother you. I have had some connection to the Monty group and you as a builder and I have always found the group to be knowledgeable and more than happy to help in any way and each time I have called the factory for information there has always been someone, sometimes yourself ready to be of immediate assistance. It is rare indeed to find a company owner will would call the prospective purchaser of a boat to assistant in getting the proper information ready for the sale, this you did and it was much appreciated. This was something you did not need to do and you did it fully knowing that there was no commission in it, You were looking out for the welfare of the Montgomery and that is a good thing. Michael Carpenter _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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consider the sourse
by MC Carpenter 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

To Bob, don't let those discourtesy remarks bother you. I have had some connection to the Monty group and you as a builder and I have always found the group to be knowledgeable and more than happy to help in any way and each time I have called the factory for information there has always been someone, sometimes yourself ready to be of immediate assistance. It is rare indeed to find a company owner will would call the prospective purchaser of a boat to assistant in getting the proper information ready for the sale, this you did and it was much appreciated. This was something you did not need to do and you did it fully knowing that there was no commission in it, You were looking out for the welfare of the Montgomery and that is a good thing. Michael Carpenter

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Buying a new Monty
by Steve MacDonald 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

It's not helpful to air disagreements between customers and the seller here on the Listserve. This medium can't miss clouding the issue, adding to the conflict between the parties and creating the likelyhood that those of us on the sidelines are confused and with no objective view from which to form a valid opinion. It is much better kept between the parties. Steve MacDonald

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Re: M_Boats: Boats purchased from Bob
by Grove777＠aol.com 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

please do not do this on line this is a private matter and GENTLEMAN WOULD KNOW THAT

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shortest delivery
by dik lang 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

I would like to chime in on two points 1. I think my distance travelled to pick up my M-17 may qualify as the shortest. I was on the bus commuting to Seattle when my friend said he was thinking about getting a larger boat. I asked what he currently had. He replied " a Montgomery 17", I said name the price and I'll give you a check! Some weeks later we finalized the deal on our commute. The boat remains at the same mooring bouy! 2. Bob has been nothing but helpfull and courteous to me even though I have only asked for advice and have not purchased a thing from him. He is a big asset to this forum.

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Re: M_Boats: Fw: buying a monty from Bob
by chbenneck＠juno.com 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

...........and all my purchases from Bob have been promptly sent - in some cases with me sending him payment after I received the delivery. He' a pleasure to do business with. Connie M15 #400

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