September 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: M23 Still For Sale in AZ for $5800 or offer
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Respectfully, I have ask. Have you sailed a Compac 23 upwind? or developed stress fractures in the hull of a Catalina 22? I have, I've owned and sailed both. I now own a M23. Sometimes one has to fully understand an object to truly know how to appreciate its value book or no book. Rick M23 Raven ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Factory prepped for a big crossing....
by Tim Diebert 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

"We're building another Custom 17 for an Atlantic Ocean crossing. We'll get some photos of her when we finish installing the windvane. She has stainless opening ports and some custom work; upsized rig..etc. real neat looking so far. Fair winds Bob Eeg" >This just about snuck by me. This topic has my attention. Is the owner on this list? This intrepid sailors plans would be fantastic to hear. The photos would be appreciated (at least by me) for sure....plus any other details once the project is done. Very cool. Tim Diebert M17 #369 'PUFF' Okanagan Lake, BC.....currently trying to squeeze as much as possible out of a fantastic (but waning) season.

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RE: M23 Still For Sale in AZ for $5800 or offer
by Steve R. 24 Sep '07

24 Sep '07

Few people, Jerry included, were able to sell boats when interest rates soared as high as they did in the early 1980s. Numerous firms went belly up. Jerry survived by focusing on smaller boats. Here is a chart from the Fed: Home Mortgage Rates (%): 1977, 6.83 1978, 9.06 1979, 12.67 1980, 15.26 1981, 18.87 1982, 14.85 1983, 10.79 1984, 12.04 1985, 9.93 1986, 8.33 1987, 8.21 http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/data/Annual/H15_MORTG_NA.txt steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: outboard motor fuel usage
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

If you ever have the pleasure of seeing Corndog you'll know why only top dollar price would buy her. Dorothy m-17 fixed keel Motu iti ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Re: M_Boats: outboard motor fuel usage
by Larry E Yake 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

One hour to a gallon of gas seems extremely low. Are you running full throttle or something? That would figure to be only 4 or 5 miles per gallon. I have a 4 stroke Suzuki 6hp on my M17 and recently tested my gas mileage. I'm getting around 26 mpg or better on smooth flat water, cruising at around 4.2 knots, which seems to be the ideal speed for engine efficiency and minimal vibration. Throttle setting is around 1/3. Regarding boat values, CornDog is 30 years old and her "book" value must be pretty low, but you'll never see her on the market for less than top dollar. I don't believe the year of construction is the deciding value on a sailboat. Larry On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Jeff Royce <jeffroyce(a)sbcglobal.net> writes: > Arnold... > > I have the exact same outboard. Mine was the one that was not > running so well a few weeks ago because of varnish problems and old > fuel (heck, it wasn't running at all). After a carb clean she is > running like a champ. And now she has Sta-bil in her so we are good > to go. > > I just went to Lake Tahoe a couple weeks ago and it was glassy for > part of the day so i used the outboard a bit. I would guess that i > ran dry after about 20 minutes or so... that said, i guess i can go > about an hour on a gallon of gas. I am considering getting the > external hose attachment for just such an occasion as i purchased > this setup for harbor use only. > > Sailing Lake Tahoe... does it get any better than that? What a > beautiful place!!! > > Jeff > M17 #336 > > Arnold Sharpe <afsharpe(a)mac.com> wrote: > Hey out there in Monty land' > I have a M-17 with a 4 hp, 4 stroke, Nissan outboard. It has an > internal fuel tank that holds about 1/3 of a gallon. While I don't > do > a lot of motoring, I have been trying to figure roughly how long I > can > run on a tank of gas. I don't have a manual and I can't find > anything > on Nissan"s web page. The tank is poly and is really odd shaped so > tank calibration is not a possibility additionally, to sight the > tank I > must shut down and remove the remove the cover. Short of doing a > test in which I run around in circles until I run out of gas, does > anyone out there have the same motor and some similar experience. > Thanks..Arnold on M-17 "LITTLE BREEZE" > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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1982 Montgomery 17 for sale in Denver, CO
by Carlos Albar-Diaz 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

with 6HP Evinnrude outboard and almost new (2006) galvanized trailer with extensible tongue.. For more details see http://shrimpy.albardiaz.com or contact Carlos at 303-585-0507 or carlos.albar-diaz(a)alumni.haas.org Fair winds Carlos

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M17 for sale in SF, $6000
by Bobbie Mayer 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

No year given, this one does sound a bit overpriced, but maybe it isn't as old as it sounds. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/428292525.html

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Sean's response
by Norm Bundek 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

I sure wish Sean would not be so wishy washy on his comments. I agree whole heartedly with Sean. Once I decided to buy my M15, I was like a hungry bass attacking a big plug! I saw the ad and drove out to see the boat on my lunch hour that day. I did knock the price down a little however. I almost lost it because of my agreed to discount. I asked to have a test sail, and the seller agreed. The following weekend we took it out. While we were setting up, several groups of people came over to ask if the boat was for sale. The buyer said yes, but that I have first rights on it. He could have sold the boat for more at the boat ramp, but he was a person who kept his word at the agreed to price. I asked him why he did not sell the boat to one of the other parties at the boat ramp (after I gave him payment in full). He said, " I know my M15 will be appreciated by you, just as I did". He knew I was not just looking for a sailboat. I was looking for a Montgomery - not a "cheap" boat. I think this sums up the Monty spirit! Since buying my M15, I have looked at numerous other boats (bigger). I got close to buying several, but I was not sufficiently motivated to get them. I was looking for a "cheap" boat to play with. This is definitely not the Montgomery mind-set, and this is why a "sail-kicker" looking for a "cheap" Monty will have to keep on looking unless a life's problem arises. Norm M15 #172 Ventura

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outboard motor fuel usage
by Arnold Sharpe 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

Hey out there in Monty land' I have a M-17 with a 4 hp, 4 stroke, Nissan outboard. It has an internal fuel tank that holds about 1/3 of a gallon. While I don't do a lot of motoring, I have been trying to figure roughly how long I can run on a tank of gas. I don't have a manual and I can't find anything on Nissan"s web page. The tank is poly and is really odd shaped so tank calibration is not a possibility additionally, to sight the tank I must shut down and remove the remove the cover. Short of doing a test in which I run around in circles until I run out of gas, does anyone out there have the same motor and some similar experience. Thanks..Arnold on M-17 "LITTLE BREEZE"

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M_boat cushions.
by Bob Eeg 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

Yes the cushions are perfect once again..! This man has built more than 100 sets of cushions for us. But after he fell and broke his hip, he got somewhat behind building new cushions and one set left with what I consider FOAM that simply wasn't firm or dense enough. He (with $ from me) has bought a large amount of the correct foam and now he's catching up on our cushion orders. I'am glad for that. I attended the Pacific Seacraft Bankruptcy Auction a few days ago and watched a man buy the entire production molds and company name, etc..for $85,000. We did hire some former employee's of Pacific Seacraft to help us catch up on production. We're almost there. We're building another Custom 17 for an Atlantic Ocean crossing. We'll get some photos of her when we finish installing the windvane. She has stainless opening ports and some custom work; upsized rig..etc. real neat looking so far. Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 -----Original Message----- >From: judy casino <jratesq(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Sep 20, 2007 7:59 PM >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Spirit > >Thanks Scott. I'm sure you'll get the cushions soon. >The guy really did a nice job on mine, so I expect >that yours will be great also. Regards, Ron >--- Scott Simpson <scott(a)westofone.com> wrote: > >> Good for you Ron! >> >> >> >> I'm happy to hear that you finally got your sails & >> cushions and are pleased >> with the quality. Bob e-mailed saying the cushions >> for my M17 are also >> finished and ready for delivery. I hope I can report >> the same positive >> experience as yours next week. >> >> >> >> Enjoy your fully-completed boat! >> >> >> >> Scott Simpson >> >> West of One >> >> 300 3rd Street, # 903 >> >> San Francisco, CA 94107 >> >> 415. 328.2668 >> >> scott(a)westofone.com >> >> www.westofone.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. >http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Boat Builder

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