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Maine Island Trail?
by Donglai Gong 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

I was sailing in a local lake the other day and met a nice folk who told me about the Maine Island Trail and how much fun would it be to do it in the Montgomery. That got me thinking, has any one here done parts of it? What are you experiences? I know you need to join the Maine Island Trail Association to get their official blessing. I have sailed the coast of Maine before but in a much larger vessel. I'd be curious to hear preparation and sailing advices. If I do it, I'd be towing my boat up from NJ, probably to Portland and deploy somewhere there. The other way is to sail downcoast, which might be easier as it's in the direction of alongshore current. Anyway, any thought and comment is appreciated! Cheers, Donglai M15 #612 Shaolin

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Interior Cushions
by Scott Simpson 12 Sep '07

12 Sep '07

Ron, It's good to hear that things are moving along in the right direction for you. Unbeknownst to Bob at the time, it was my M17 boat that was delivered August 3rd with the inferior foam inserts along with fabric that was poorly stitched and cut. Bob agreed that the cushions were not up to his standards and would replace them with a new vinyl set. Although I don't expect him to personally deliver the new cushions to me way up in San Francisco (like he promised you in San Diego), I am looking forward to receiving them sometime within the next two weeks. Like you said, Montgomery Boats are great. Once we both get our cushions (and your sails), I bet they'll be even better. "Pony Engine" is now officially CF registered and will be launched this week. Once in the water, she'll be floated down to Svendsen's Metal Works where I hope they can readily fabricate and attach the stern pulpits. It's been a long & interesting adventure. Scott Simpson West of One 300 3rd Street, # 903 San Francisco, CA 94107 415. 328.2668 scott(a)westofone.com www.westofone.com

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STERN PULPIT FOR M-17
by Arnold Sharpe 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Does anyone out there have an M-17 with a stern pulpit who would kindly send me a picture so I can build one for my Monty. Kind Regards..Arnold sharpe M-17 "Little Breeze"

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Our New M15-Spirit
by judy casino 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Dear Fellow Monty Owners and Admirers, Great news! Bob Eeg has informed my wife and me that our sails are now complete and are being shipped to us directly by the sailmaker, Elliott Pattison. We are very pleased to receive this news, as a sailboat without sails is not much use, even one as well made as the Montgomery! Alas, the interior cushions are still not ready. Bob Eeg has had multiple problems with his cushion supplier for quite awhile now. Seems the man was sidelined with a broken hip some months ago and couldn't work. Then, when he was well enough to continue with his craft, he started using inferior cushion foam. This did not sit well with Bob, and he directed the man to order and begin using better quality foam, consistent with the construction quality of Montgomery boats. According to Bob, the man is now using great foam. Of course, the process of getting the cushion man to do the right thing caused an additional delay. However, kudos are due to Bob for requiring, and incurring the extra expense of, the better foam! Also to his credit, Bob has offered to drive the cushions to our home in San Diego when they are completed to make sure they fit properly and to save us the hassle and expense of trailering the new boat back to the factory for such purpose. This is a very nice gesture! Although the delay in getting the cushions to complete our little yacht is a bit frustrating (she was ordered in early April with a 60 day completion estimate), Judy and I are confident that Bob will be able to exert enough control over his cushion supplier to keep the delay from becoming unconscionable. All in all, we would rather have to wait a bit longer for quality cushions than have cushions which are unfit to sit or sleep on and that don't live up to the Montgomery name! Therefore, we are sanguine about the situation. I will keep you all posted on the quality and fit of the sails and cushions as they are received. I will also let you know how well she sails (of course, those of you who own M15s already know, but I thought that those folks who are considering buying one might be interested in as many opinions as they can get). Regards, Ron Casino ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469

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Compass M-15
by Jim Sadler 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

What are you skippers using for a compass? Are you mounting it flush next to the companion way? How is it illuminated? Thanks Captain Jim Sadler Skipper Sailing vessel Pelican M-15

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My New M15 -Spirit
by judy casino 09 Sep '07

09 Sep '07

Hello, Fellow Monty Owners and Admirers, I took delivery of my new M15, Spirit, at the factory a few weeks ago, but minus the sails and interior cushions. Bob Eeg has had some delays in obtaining the sails and cushions from his suppliers. Nevertheless, I wanted to take the boat home to outfit her while the sails and cushions were being completed. Bob assures me that both the sails and cushions will be ready shortly, so I hope soon to be able to describe the launch and first sail of Spirit on San Diego's Mission Bay--perhaps with photos attached. The boat is beautiful (truly big boat construction and oversized hardware). I will keep you all posted. Regards, Ron Casino ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Prop pitch
by chbenneck＠juno.com 05 Sep '07

05 Sep '07

Hi Captain Jim, My Honda 2 HP moved my old M15 at hull speed at about 2/3rds throttle. Once I also used it to move an M17, with 5 adults in the cockpit, up the Thames river against the outgoing tide. Again, no problem. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Sail Stops
by chbenneck＠juno.com 04 Sep '07

04 Sep '07

Hi Bonnie, I'm in Connecticut - Glastonbury - but we don't have our M15 anymore. If I can help to answer your questions; .... fire away. Please use my new DSL e-mail address chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net Connie

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Re: Sail Stops
by Bonnie Kostka 04 Sep '07

04 Sep '07

Thanks for the advice about the sail stop. My baby did not come with one. I have been using tape to hold the sail in place. As soon as I read about getting them at West Marine, I ordered two. Agree with Connie, I tie as much down as I can -- sooner or later everything lands in the water. Can't tell you how many motor keys I've lost (attached to a floater no less). I would like to see another Monty 15 in my area. Anyone out there from Connecticut or near? In the winter I get down to Venice Beach - Anyone in that area? Pictures are OK but I would like to see your rigging up close. I have a few questions. Bonnie montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sail stop (chbenneck(a)juno.com) 2. Re: M-15 Prop pitch (chbenneck(a)juno.com) 3. RE: M17 for sale in VA (John Tyner) 4. RE: M17 for sale in VA (bill safford) 5. Re: M17 for sale in VA (Wcpritchett(a)aol.com) 6. sail stops that Bob buys up and hides.... (Blake Reimer) 7. Re: worst conditions to take an m15 (LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com) 8. Re: M-15 Prop pitch (LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com) 9. Re: Compass M-15 (Gary M Hyde) 10. Socal Potters Anacapa trip pics (Nebwest2(a)aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:03:19 -0400 From: chbenneck(a)juno.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sail stop To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20070831.141316.4012.1.chbenneck(a)juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Joe, Sail stops are a form of cylindrical grasshopper. When one drops on deck, it immediately makes a big leap into the next available body of water. Now, you can either keep replacing sail stops; keeping spares on hand for when they hop, or, .... Use a piece of 1/4" bungee cord wrapped twice around the mast and tied in a square knot. It keeps the main sail slugs in place; is easily moveable; is almost instantly removable; and costs only a fraction of what the grasshopper / sail stops cost.... Connie ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:09:11 -0400 From: chbenneck(a)juno.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Prop pitch To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20070831.141316.4012.2.chbenneck(a)juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Captain Jim, My Honda 2 HP moved my old M15 at hull speed at about 2/3rds throttle. Once I also used it to move an M17, with 5 adults in the cockpit, up the Thames river against the outgoing tide. Again, no problem. Connie ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:06:00 -0400 From: "John Tyner" Subject: RE: M_Boats: M17 for sale in VA To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wonder if this is the one with the strange HIN I saw in Colonial Beach two years ago? ~ John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Doug Kelch Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:18 AM To: Montgomery Subject: M_Boats: M17 for sale in VA this is from Messing about in boats. Montgomery 17 ''77, clean in god working orders. new main and working jib by Dabbler Sails; new Yamaha 4 hp; hull and topsides recently painted; serviceable trailer w/recent tires and bearing buddies. $6500 firm. John Hohnson, Colonial Beach, BA on the Potomac 804-224-1538, jajohncb(a)verizon.net --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 04:39:16 +0800 From: bill safford Subject: RE: M_Boats: M17 for sale in VA To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Wow, that's an impressive asking price. No where near NADA, BUC or the market. All I can say is "good luck".> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:18:15 -0700> From: doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M17 for sale in VA> > this is from Messing about in boats.> > Montgomery 17 ''77, clean in god working orders. new main and working jib by Dabbler Sails; new Yamaha 4 hp; hull and topsides recently painted; serviceable trailer w/recent tires and bearing buddies. $6500 firm.> John Hohnson, Colonial Beach, BA on the Potomac 804-224-1538, jajohncb(a)verizon.net> > > ---------------------------------> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Stay connected with your friends and discover new ones on Windows Live Spaces! http://spaces.live.com?mkt=en-sg ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:39:38 EDT From: Wcpritchett(a)aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 for sale in VA To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Brandon, Can you please send info on your Kingfisher 22 to me? Thanks, Bill wcpritchett at aol dot com ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:45:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Blake Reimer Subject: M_Boats: sail stops that Bob buys up and hides.... To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <706253.43087.qm(a)web59111.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks alot Bob! Is that how people wind up buying new Montgomery's? They can't find a replacement sail stop? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:17:22 EDT From: LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: worst conditions to take an m15 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I don't know what the limit is, I've had Sweet Dream out in the bay in 18 - 25 several times with a reef and the 110 up, closehauled into 3 - 4 ft chop for some fairly long runs (20 miles). cockpit dry, a little spray in the face. I did have the companionway slats in though. I never though about dropping the sails and firing up the trusty Honda. The only difficulty is fighting down the sails when single handed in that kind of sea. I've tryed heaving too but it seems to work better to drop the jib first, then pull the main down most of the way, sling a couple uf bungie balls around it and head to the dock to clean the sails up. Don in Mobile ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:43:00 EDT From: LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Prop pitch To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" With the one liter on-board tank, I get 1.25 hours at around 5 MPH ( I got the GPS set on MPH rather thank Knots) so I get just over 6 miles on a tank with 3.8 tanks peer gallon. Probably a little more if I slowed it down a little. I bought 3 gallons this year and uses one of them on the famous BEER cruise with the trailer sailors. so 28 MPG is probably right. I vote for the Hohda. its air-cooled (no flushiing in water tanks) and weighs 28 lbs ( I keep it in the shed at home to keep it from being stolen) so its easy to carry and mount. No water pump of shifter to fail. ALWAYS starts. Don in Mobile ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:22:57 -0700 From: Gary M Hyde Subject: Re: M_Boats: Compass M-15 To: "Montgomery Sailboats Message-ID: <637A1DF4-C519-4625-90C3-43FF428F1FA1(a)mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes My GPS does have a light Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2007, at 9:07 PM, jim sadler wrote: > Thanks Skipper > I am thinking about sailing at night. Do you use the GPS to hold a > course? Does it have a light the you can see. > Captain Jim > Sailing vessel Pelican M-15 > > On 8/30/07, Gary M Hyde wrote: >> I have a hand-bearing compass that also has a mount; but a GPS is >> cheaper and more useful. The combination of the two is useful when >> current is an issue. >> >> --Gary Hyde >> 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' >> We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails. >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Jim Sadler wrote: >> >>> What are you skippers using for a compass? Are you mounting it >>> flush next >>> to the companion way? How is it illuminated? >>> Thanks >>> Captain Jim Sadler >>> Skipper Sailing vessel Pelican M-15 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>> montgomery_boats >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:04:07 EDT From: Nebwest2(a)aol.com Subject: M_Boats: Socal Potters Anacapa trip pics To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This link: _http://howies.net/socalpotter/anacapa2007/index.htm_ (http://howies.net/socalpotter/anacapa2007/index.htm) will take you to the Socal Potters photo album of the recent trip to Anacapa island off Ventura. This is a compilation of everyone's best photos. Great group of folks who welcome Monty sailors to join them. Check it out when you get a chance. Sean and 'Jo M23 Dauntless www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 55, Issue 1 ***********************************************

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Re: M_Boats: Holy barnacles Batman!
by bownez＠juno.com 04 Sep '07

04 Sep '07

Hello Robbin, Doug (the admiral) is a great guy to sail with. I had the pleasure of his company in the North Channel this last June. Years ago, when I acquired my M17, there was small pock mark blisters along the waterline, some on the boot stripe as well. They were very small, but clustered together. None contained water. I don't believe this M17 had ever been in salt water. Anyway, I sanded these, filled the voids, applied 8 coats of Interprotect 2000, and two coats of Micron CSC. This was in 1997 and apart from applying a bit of bottom paint from time to time, all looks good. For what it's worth. Later, Bones

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