September 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: "Brailing"
by John R. Butler 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

An excerpt from the "Encyclopedia of Nautical Knowledge": Brail. A rope used as a leechline or buntline for hauling a sail in against the mast, preparatory to or instead of stowing. Brails are fitted to fore-and-aft and lateen sails … Brail in, to take a sail in by means of brails. Worked fine on my first M15 jib, will take photos of it installed on my current M15 "Rejoyce!" in the near future. Someone please tell this technically impoverished Old Goat how you provide links to photos with a submission here. Do it now! You can't do it any younger…

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Reefing sails M15
by Neil Knopf 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

Hey, can anyone send me pictures of how to reef the main & jib on my M15 ? or maybe a 1000 words. Not sure how to rig the reefing lines. thanks, Neil

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Maine Island Trail
by Rick Langer 16 Sep '07

16 Sep '07

Hey Doug, I'm ready to do it again. That was a great cruise and after looking at the pictures again, I'm primed for another trip there. I think Rockland was a fine launch site. I'm not sure I understand the reference to going up the Hudson River, but that would certainly be the long way to get to the Maine coast. So let's do a couple of weeks around Penobscot Bay next year and then head west to the North Channel to wash the salt off our boats. Or there's always Lake Champlain, which is on the way home for many of us. Frank Durant and I just spent a very nice week on that lake and we very much want to return there. Tom Howe, if your listening, do you still have your Ariel in the Maine waters? Rick

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Re: M_Boats: Re: changing jibs
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

I've seen a few M-15's with a reef in the jib. I think you use a downhaul attached to the reef tack to pull the jib tack down, then you clip the jib sheets to the jib reef clew and Voila! you're reefed. A lot of jib bunched up on the deck but who cares! I've though of installing one but I've never needed it. The 110 supplied with the boat seems to do OK in a blow if the Main is reefed. No excessive lee helm. Don in Mobile ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Re: changing jibs
by John R. Butler 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Not an original idea, just haven't seen it yet. Brail the jib for quick reaction for too much breeze forward. I did it on my first M15 "Joy", and "Rejoyce!" will soon have it, too. In the meanwhile, I do have downhauls on both the main and jib. With my severe balance problem, I cannot race forward to lower either sail. Brailing does not solve the problem of how to change the jib, but it does dump the air out very quickly. When I get it installed on my latest M15, I'll try to share it. John R. Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net

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Re: M_Boats: Hull transducers
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Bones: There's a solvent for 5200 on the market. Maybe 3M makes it, I don't know for sure. Check with a boat store or Marine repair yard. Sandy In a message dated 9/13/2007 8:28:51 AM Mountain Standard Time, bownez(a)juno.com writes: Hello Listers, I have purchased new instruments for my M23 and after hauling out this fall I intend to mount the new mushroom transducer housings in the same spots as the present ones. The question: does anyone have any experience removing the old mounts? I have no idea what adhesive was used to glue them into the hull, it could be something as strong as 3M 5200. I was thinking of removing the clamping nut, then applying some heat to see if the mounts may loosen. Then do some gentle prying. Any input would be appreciated. I purchased new Navman speed and depth electronics to replace the old Signet Marine. Thanks, Bones in Mpls _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Hull transducers
by Rick Langer 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hey Bones, My first thought was to try heat also. When installing the transducer is my boat I had some trouble finding a good location. In the end I decided to epoxy it to the hull and if the location was wrong I planned to heat it to remove it. 5200 is tough, but I think heat gun heat, as opposed to a flame would be helpful. Knowing you, I guess you've already thought through this logic. Let me know what works. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:27:34 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Hull transducers > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <20070913.102734.19394.0(a)webmail11.lax.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Listers, > > I have purchased new instruments for my M23 and after hauling out this > fall I intend to mount the new mushroom transducer housings in the same > spots as the present ones. The question: does anyone have any experience > removing the old mounts? I have no idea what adhesive was used to glue > them into the hull, it could be something as strong as 3M 5200. I was > thinking of removing the clamping nut, then applying some heat to see if > the mounts may loosen. Then do some gentle prying. > Any input would be appreciated. > I purchased new Navman speed and depth electronics to replace the old > Signet Marine. > > Thanks, > > Bones in Mpls

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Hull transducers
by bownez＠juno.com 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

Hello Listers, I have purchased new instruments for my M23 and after hauling out this fall I intend to mount the new mushroom transducer housings in the same spots as the present ones. The question: does anyone have any experience removing the old mounts? I have no idea what adhesive was used to glue them into the hull, it could be something as strong as 3M 5200. I was thinking of removing the clamping nut, then applying some heat to see if the mounts may loosen. Then do some gentle prying. Any input would be appreciated. I purchased new Navman speed and depth electronics to replace the old Signet Marine. Thanks, Bones in Mpls

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Sail reduction techniques
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

M boaters We were out this past Saturday and the winds were 15-18 kts, put a reef in at about 18 kts and we used the tried and true "heave to" concept. Bellerin sat there like a well trained puppy while we reduced sail area really in a matter of a couple minutes. The winds held for the rest of the sail but had they increased my next step would have been to hank on a smaller jib. Is anyone familiar with any technique that makes changing the headsail easier or do I just have to go forward pull her down and put up the smaller one? Trying to make it easier on the back. Not really interested in getting roller furling just thought I would query the group and see if anyone had a better way. Thanks Gary Valetti Bellerin M17 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Fw: My new Montgomery 15...
by Louis Aliotta 13 Sep '07

13 Sep '07

----- Original Message ----- From: Louis Aliotta To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: My new Montgomery 15... I just had my Montgomery 15 delivered yesterday and it looks great... I actually bought it used, but it is a 2005 and it looks like new. I have been sailing on the Hudson River for the past 25 years but I moved to Southport, NC 2 years ago. I will be sailing the intecoastal waterway and the mouth of the Cape Fear River with perhaps a few fair-weather jaunts into the Atlantic. It took me awhile, but I think I found the right boat for an old guy who doesn't want a lot of upkeep anymore. I was lucky to find this one here on the East Coast, but I guess the timing was just right. Thank you for all of your postings, they helped me make the choice.... Lou

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