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Running Lights M-15
by Rick Langer 20 Oct '07

20 Oct '07

Doug, My tricolor / anchor light is made by OGM. As you know it's very bright, probably one of the brightest I've seen. And it uses very little power. Using the anchor light every night for two weeks hardly put a dent in my battery. Here's a link; https://secure.orcagreen.com/xcart/home.php?cat=249 It's a bit pricy, but it's top quality and I would buy it again. If I do buy one in the future, I will get the strobe option. Considering the limited range of my handheld VHF, a strobe at the masthead seems like a reasonable safety item. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:13:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running Lights M-15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <83425.66554.qm(a)web58701.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Jim, > > I cruised along the east coast for 5 years without electronics in my M15. > During that time I used a clip on bow light and made up a stern light > fitting that would clip on the tiller at the transom. > > I used the now illegal night light to hoist up the mast using the main > halyard. > > When I was planning the cruise to the Dry Tortugas ( 80 nm west of Key > West) I decided I needed masthead running lights and a masthead VHF > antenna to be seen and heard in the possible swells. > > Since masthead running lights can only be used while sailing I installed > two sets of running lights - masthead and deck. > > The deck lights in the bow actually attach to the bow pulpit and the > wiring comes though the deck underneath the foot of the pulpit and runs > thought the hollow stainless tube to the mounting point. > > The only tri-color masthead lights I could find were far cheaper at > defender than West Marine - about 1/3 less. > > The make a masthead tricolor with an anchor light for a lot more money so > I bought a little white all around light and bolted it to the top of the > tri color - added some pins and little wiring and it has worked fine for > the last 5 years. > > I do not use interior lights and I could cruise for a week without > recharging the 80 amp hr gel cell battery when only using the anchor > light, vhf radio and about and hour of running lights. > > I have recently added a solar panel but have little practical experience > with it yet. > > Rick Langer has a great small led mast head anchor light that I have been > meaning to ask him where it came from - Rick - Can you enlighten us? > > I could send pictures off line if you like. > > Thanks > > Doug Kelch > M15 #310 > "Seas the Day"

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Re: M_Boats: Running Lights M-15
by Larry E Yake 20 Oct '07

20 Oct '07

Ahh.. come on, Skip! Don't quit. It's nothing personal. A lot of folks don't check their list messages regularly and when they do get to them they sometimes post responses before reading down the list all the way and seeing that someone else has already responded to that. > Thanks everyone for letting me know I screwed up!? One incorrect > answer has caused numerous negative responses, all with the same > theme.? I think I'll just go back to just lurking.............it's > much too risky to post. > > Skip M-15 #201

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Another AZ M23 goes up for sale
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 19 Oct '07

19 Oct '07

This is the new M23 built by Nor'sea with the new deck mold and cutter rig. I believe that this is hull #1 and is an '02 model. It is located in AZ and is listed on SailingTexas' web-site for $55,000. Listed on10/1. Here's the listing: _http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery23a.html_ (http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery23a.html) By now the Tucson M23 that the Packers purchased should be close to her new home near Spokane, WA. We had the pleasure of meeting Jeff and Chris (and Buster the sailing dog). They over-nighted with us here in Lake Havasu on their way home with their new boat. Fortunately, the wind gods were happy that day and we took Dauntless for a great sail 'till after dark just to give them a taste of what they can expect. It was a great time and we really enjoyed their company. Looking forward to sailing with them some more maybe next summer! Sean ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Navigation Lights Reference
by Brian Ripley 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Boatingbasicsonline has an excellent reference for navigation lights: http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/course/boating/4_2_b.php - Brian Ripley '88 M15 #421

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Re: M_Boats: Running Lights M-15
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Skip, On My 17 the tri-color masthead light has the red, green and white but I don't believe the white is an anchor light, I think it serves as the stern light. Also I think the tri-color is only acceptable under power. The operative word here is "think" cause I'm not 100 percent on this. I'm sure one of our M brothers will know for sure. Gary Valetti ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Re: M_Boats: New Montgomery Owners
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Phil, I keep my boat at Spring Cove Marina in Solomons, Md on the Chesapeake Bay, about an hour or so southeast of Washington DC. Doug Kelch is always putting together Chesapeake cruises and maybe you can join in next year. Good sailing Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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M-17 Centerboard Rope
by philbarilla＠peoplepc.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

I have just purchased a 1977 Montgomery 17...boat number 250. The centerboard is lowered out of the shoal keel by a rope which protrudes up through the cockpit sole just in front of and outside of the companion way hatch and coils around a vertically mounted sheet winch. The rope is badly frayed just at the point where it exits the cockpit sole when the board is in the fully raised position. Has anyone had any experience replacing such a rope. I want to know what I can expect when I have the boat lifted. After lifting the boat and lowering the board, I understand there is a pin at the rear of the board which must be hammered out in order for the board to drop clear of the keel enough to unfasten the rope from the pennant attached to the board. Any information as to the exact procedure and what to expect will be greatly appreciated. Phil Barilla

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Re: M_Boats: New Montgomery Owners
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Phil, I see you are from Pittsbugh just wondering where you will be doing your sailing? Also from the City of Champions, GO STEELERS Gary M17 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Re: M_Boats: Running Lights M-15
by EinkaufR43＠aol.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Hi Board Readers; My fall project is to get my M-15 wired, batteried, chargered, switch paneled, and lighted before the big white gets to Michigan. So, this board topic is well timed and of great interest to me! Thanks! Oh, yeah... and I will add a permanent boarding ladder too. I'm favoring the Windline TT-3X, but hope to see one before committing. Most of what I've learned about M-15 outfitting came from this board archives, and some from the Trailersailor archives. And naturally some thanks to Google, SCA & GOB mags and Don Casey too! So, Chapmans, West, Boater's World and the Coasties sites tells me that there are lots of choices, and lots of ways to misinterpret the navigation lighting rules without plenty of study. I'm looking for just the right masthead all-round light following the less than seven meter powering exception of one masthead all-around and standard red/green cabin top combo that's already on my boat, though the 12 meter lighting might improve your chances of being seen and tracked. That's just seems like too many fixtures to hang all over my boat's little mast and stern for what little night sailing I might do. I'm intending to use the same light for night powering and anchoring. No way I'm bunking down on board at anchor without a light on top! I don't plan on much night sailing, so for that the flashlight on the sail seems approved if perhaps unwise. Mr. Coleman has a little l.e.d. lantern that might work well in the cockpit too. The Davis Mega-Masthead looks pretty good. They make a permanent mount model #3310, but I've not found it's size measurements. Also that made-in-Fiji l.e.d. Owl might work on its own, though they show it mounted inside a standard fixture. Small is beautiful! So, I'm getting the bits together and so far and have purchased a U-1 agm, Vector 1087 smart charger, fused 3-switch panel with 12v outlet and battery tester. Thanks for all the past postings on these topics! I'll be hoping to find a small and cheap l.e.d. ( I realize that's probably mutually exclusive in the marine supply world) light, and might experiment with the $20 l.e.d. light bulb replacement I see in the catalogs. Regards, Ron Stanton near Saginaw, Michigan M-15 249 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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Re: M_Boats: Running Lights
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 18 Oct '07

18 Oct '07

Mark and John Thanks for the clarification on the use of the masthead light under sail only. Regards Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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