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RE: M_Boats: New Tabernacle
by Tom Smith 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Which Dwyer tabernacle did you get Dan (part number please), and did you get a halyard organizer plate to go with it? t Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/064--Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hall Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:10 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New Tabernacle I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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by Rick Langer 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Hi Tod, Yes, I suppose you're right, 20 seconds is not much time considering he was trying to hail the runaway boat in that time frame. As I read the story I probably got carried away in horror and I was wondering what others on the list would do with a boat bearing down on them like this. Rick > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:40:53 -0400 > From: <htmills(a)bright.net> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: c > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <000801c585a0$6e6e2160$2088db42@HTM031103> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I don't know, Rick > > With the boat traveling at about 25 kts toward you, at 300 yds off you'd > only have a bit over 20 seconds. Probably not enough time to even get to > the engine and get it started (remember, the anchored boat wasn't real small > either). > > Tod > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On > Behalf Of Rick Langer > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:24 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: autopilots-What would you do? > > > Hi Tod, > > Thanks for that link. What a horrifying event. The article wasn't very > specific as to the details of the collision. Neither boat sank so it sounds > like a glancing blow. The fishing boat captain knew he was in trouble > seeing the cruiser at 300 yards. Besides trying to hail the cruiser what > else did he do? I wonder if he ever tried to move the fishing boat. Even > if at anchor, it seems he could have powered forward to avoid the collision. > Maybe he could have put out more rode or let it go. > > What would you do? > > Rick Langer > M15 #337 > > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:53:05 -0400 > > From: <htmills(a)bright.net> > > Subject: M_Boats: autopilots > > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Message-ID: <002001c5840f$ce1adcd0$e39ddb42@HTM031103> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > The story of a collision on the Chesapeake (Choptank) between an > > anchored boat (fishing) and a fast moving cabin cruiser on autopilot > > with nobody > on > > watch, from the Baltimore Sun: > > > > http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=15968 > > > <http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=15968&sid=72e81728a85751a8f29 > > 22a535994c4cf> &sid=72e81728a85751a8f2922a535994c4cf > > > > Tod

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RE: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting
by Willerton, Jim (GE Healthcare) 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Yes, #238 is "Amnesia", vintage 1983. I bought her about a year ago. She resides at the boat dock in my back yard, on the community lake here, called the Islands. We regularly take her to the larger lakes in Arizona for great sailing. She's a terrific boat! Jim Willerton M15 #238 "Amnesia" Gilbert, AZ -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+james.willerton=med.ge.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+james.willerton=med.ge.com@mailman.xmis sion.com]On Behalf Of William B. Riker Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:59 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting Tod, I've kept a spreadsheet on M15 owners and it shows 238 is (or, most likely, was) named "Amnesia" out of Tempe, AZ. Bill -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills(a)bright.net Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:23 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting Saturday I also spotted a Montgomery, a 15, hull #238 IIRC. No stripes on the hull, looked a lot like Miss T (except a 15) but she did have unique multi-colored sails. It lives just across Sandusky Bay from BuscaBrisas, so now that I know it's around I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Sailed by apparently a man and two boys, who seemed to be having fun! Sunday, Busca was engaged in some survey work. Two other Great Lakes Cruising Club members and myself set out in the morning across the bay to Bay Point, a large sand bar that blocks most of the entrance to the bay, where we started motoring up and down the columns of a grid, recording soundings at intervals. The bar has grown and shifted a lot since I first started sailing the area and the commercial charts are quite out of date. As a testimony, when we were nearly done with the east side of the bar, a Tartan 33 grounded heavily on the hard sand. After a while, we went over to see if we could be of assistance. After much circling around, we took their anchor out the length of the rode for them so they could kedge themselves off. All they had to winch with were the Genoa winches and the two older gents just weren't able to winch the boat off, so eventually they called Towboat US. At this point, there was so much chop from powerboat wake that it was too rough to resume our work in the shoals, so we had to call it a day with plans to complete the work as soon as we can get a suitable day. After the data is all compiled, a drawing of the entrance will be made and it will be included in the next harbor report for the bay, one of thousands of harbor reports that the club maintains for the entire Great Lakes. I have an entire shelf in a bookcase dedicated to nothing but these harbor reports. Bob G., the seniormost member of the three of us, explained the method he wanted to use to collect the data, so I steered the course, he recorded the depths, and Maggie watched the gps to tell me if I were to steer to port or starboard and Bob when to note the depth. It was not too easy trying to steer following the course exactly and there seemed to be a current that was pushing us eastward. I'd like to experiment with OziExplorer/GPS interface and try recording depths at random spaces while motoring or sailing around. If I can figure out a way to do it single-handed, then that would go a long way towards allowing me to contribute to more harbor reports. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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New Tabernacle
by Dan Hall 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

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RE: M_Boats: re: M-15 Ladder AND Locker Storage
by Hughston, Larry 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Thanks Steve, I am getting some great ideas and methods from all you folks out there. ---Larry -----Original Message----- From: Steve R. [mailto:stever707@mail.saabnet.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:54 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: re: M-15 Ladder AND Locker Storage Larry and Bo, I have two shallow cockpit lockers. In order to install my transom ladder, I mounted a Bomar hatch on the horizontal surface of the starboard cockpit seat. It is centered between the locker and the transom. And, in order to install my motor mount, I mounted a Bomar hatch on the horizontal surface of the port cockpit seat. I think they were about $35 each. I used a hole saw of about 2 inches to drill holes at the corners, and a reciprocating saw to make the straight cuts. Great storage for fenders and lines. Water tight. Very easy to check the mounting bolts for the OB, ladder and rudder. The hatch does stick up slightly above the seat, but is not uncomfortable and I do not sit there for long. Your mileage may...you know. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Transom ladder
by Rick Langer 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

My apologies for sending the previous digest back to the list. I was trying to cut extraneous posts and hit "send" in error. Hi Larry, My boat had a ladder mounted on the starboard transom when I bought it. Whoever installed it used a wood backing plate with those spiked threaded inserts that are often used to thread a machine screw into wood. How he got back there is a mystery to me. I installed a Bomar inspection hatch ( about $35 at Defender) on the seat between the molded locker and the transom. That's how I could see how the ladder was mounted. I cut the hatch in to get access to install a tiller extension lock box on the starboard coaming. As it turns out the space gained through the hatch is perfect for storing my two headsails. They are very accessible, free up more space in the cabin and are light enough so not to sink the transom. Rick Langer M15 #337 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:20:14 -0700 > From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <39D7D48FE348D61188C800065B3C3EE202843206(a)smf00exch031.dgs.ca.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Everyone, I am trying to find the best way to mount a transom ladder on my > M-15. It will go on the the starboard side of course but how do get to the > inside to create proper support with plate aluminum or high quality plywood > that is covered with epoxy and glasscloth? Is this a factory install only? > Thanks all. ----Larry

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 7
by Rick Langer 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

----- Original Message ----- From: <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 7 > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Towing an M-15 (gmhyde1(a)mac.com) > 2. RE: autopilots-What would you do? (htmills(a)bright.net) > 3. Re: New Tabernacle (jerry) > 4. Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 (Brian Gilbert) > 5. Montgomery sighting report (John Tyner) > 6. engines (brooke townsend) > 7. Re: engines (TOMMYVAL(a)aol.com) > 8. RE: engines (Tom Smith) > 9. RE: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 (Hughston, Larry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:06:50 -0700 > From: gmhyde1(a)mac.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Towing an M-15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <58cb6165ad708c493473c50a97c88ff9(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Steve: > I do have a little trouble keeping my foot out of it--it's so much fun! > --Gary > > On Jul 09, 2005, at 7:57 PM, IDCLLC(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > Very cool. I think I would have a tendency to squirt away from stop > > lights > > at the least provication. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Tyree > > > > In a message dated 7/8/2005 1:41:26 PM Central Daylight Time, > > gmhyde1(a)mac.com > > writes: > > > > Steve: > > The low speed torque in the turbo Forester is great! It's almost like > > having another gear in the transmission. The turbo requires premium > > gasoline (91 octane or better). I get 20 to 23 mpg driving on the road > > with no real load; and I averaged 16.71 mpg towing my M15 from Pullman > > to Anacortes and back (808 miles round trip) over the Cascade Mountains > > at 60-70 mpg (yes, even 60 mph up the grades). > > --Gary Hyde > > N24 'Sailabration' > > M15 #235 'Vanilla' > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:40:53 -0400 > From: <htmills(a)bright.net> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: autopilots-What would you do? > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <000801c585a0$6e6e2160$2088db42@HTM031103> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I don't know, Rick > > With the boat traveling at about 25 kts toward you, at 300 yds off you'd > only have a bit over 20 seconds. Probably not enough time to even get to > the engine and get it started (remember, the anchored boat wasn't real small > either). > > Tod > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On > Behalf Of Rick Langer > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:24 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: autopilots-What would you do? > > > Hi Tod, > > Thanks for that link. What a horrifying event. The article wasn't very > specific as to the details of the collision. Neither boat sank so it sounds > like a glancing blow. The fishing boat captain knew he was in trouble > seeing the cruiser at 300 yards. Besides trying to hail the cruiser what > else did he do? I wonder if he ever tried to move the fishing boat. Even > if at anchor, it seems he could have powered forward to avoid the collision. > Maybe he could have put out more rode or let it go. > > What would you do? > > Rick Langer > M15 #337 > > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 18:53:05 -0400 > > From: <htmills(a)bright.net> > > Subject: M_Boats: autopilots > > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Message-ID: <002001c5840f$ce1adcd0$e39ddb42@HTM031103> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > The story of a collision on the Chesapeake (Choptank) between an > > anchored boat (fishing) and a fast moving cabin cruiser on autopilot > > with nobody > on > > watch, from the Baltimore Sun: > > > > http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=15968 > > > <http://www.capedory.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=15968&sid=72e81728a85751a8f29 > > 22a535994c4cf> &sid=72e81728a85751a8f2922a535994c4cf > > > > Tod > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:54:16 -0700 > From: "jerry" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <000d01c585aa$aed4bfc0$5ff4bbd0@jerrym> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dan- I wouldn't worry about 1/2" > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lane" <rqlhgl(a)ieee.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle > > > > Dan Hall wrote: > > > > >I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use > the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original > location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather > helm or shroud length? > > >Dan > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Yahoo! Mail > > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > >_______________________________________________ > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wil increase the mast rake a trifle which may be a good thing. > > Dick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 20:28:16 -0400 > From: Brian Gilbert <hammerguy(a)mindspring.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <BEF73560.35BE%hammerguy(a)mindspring.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Tom: > > My bilge pump is located in the side of the footwell in the cockpit, but on > the aft side near the motor cutout. I don't think it was a factory > installation, but it could have been... hard to tell. At any rate I need to > drill out the pop rivets, add new compound, and reseal with bolts. > > Thanks > BG > > -- > Brian Gilbert > Marine Media > M17 "Tiny Dancer" (ex "Stargazer") > (423)876-9990 > 3404 Hartford Drive > Chattanooga, TN 37415 > www.sailingsmall.com > > > > on 7/10/05 5:49 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > > Brian, our M17 came with a manual bilge pump as well, and I believe it > > is a Whale. I called about rebuilding mine and was given some > > information which I will have to re-locate. Is your pump mounted in the > > cockpit at the bridge deck? t > > > > > > Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle > > M15/345--Chukar > > M17/064--Unnamed > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:08:56 -0400 > From: "John Tyner" <tynerjr(a)gmpexpress.net> > Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery sighting report > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <NHBBLAMMILPCPGIFHKEHOENFCJAA.tynerjr(a)gmpexpress.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > While cruising through Colonial Beach, VA, Sunday, 7/10, in my new tow > vehicle (2002 GMC Sierra, 4.8 V-8, think this will be adequate for an > M-15?), encountered a Montgomery? (15, I believe, but not sure) at the > town's public launch. "Gypsy Rose" had Florida registration and FL tags on > the trailer. Owner wasn't in sight, so I jumped out to look at the hull > number. That just confused things, as this hull number started with digits, > not letters, and then ended with letters, so I assume it's a rather old boat > in an old system. No paper and pen, and all I remember of the HIN is > "383xx-xx71RMM". Anyone have any ideas? Boat also had the extruded aluminum > toe-rail, did not have an outboard cut-out like older 17s, and, of course, a > Montgomery's lapstrake hull. Did not examine further as I don't like to mess > around other people's stuff. > > -- > John Tyner > M-15 "Chimpanzee" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=gmpexpress.net(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=gmpexpress.net@mailman.xmission > .com]On Behalf Of jerry > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:54 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle > > > Dan- I wouldn't worry about 1/2" > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lane" <rqlhgl(a)ieee.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle > > > > Dan Hall wrote: > > > > >I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use > the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original > location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather > helm or shroud length? > > >Dan > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > >Yahoo! Mail > > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > >_______________________________________________ > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wil increase the mast rake a trifle which may be a good thing. > > Dick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:53:50 -0700 > From: "brooke townsend" <pacbeach(a)thegrid.net> > Subject: M_Boats: engines > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <E1Ds0bM-0006WJ-QX(a)mgr9.xmission.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Do I need a long shaft or a short shaft when I go to purchase a new four > stroke outboard for my M17? John Bodine > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:13:18 EDT > From: TOMMYVAL(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: engines > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <74.577907fd.3003f49e(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > John > > You will need the long shaft, I have a 5 hp Honda long shaft and its perfect > for the boat > > Good Luck > > Gary > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:19:24 -0700 > From: "Tom Smith" <tsmith(a)nextit.com> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: engines > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <BB38C5E6C3D048489CCDEAD474C540687B3D52@pslap> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > long > > > Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle > M15/345--Chukar > M17/064--Unnamed > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:20:14 -0700 > From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <39D7D48FE348D61188C800065B3C3EE202843206(a)smf00exch031.dgs.ca.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Everyone, I am trying to find the best way to mount a transom ladder on my > M-15. It will go on the the starboard side of course but how do get to the > inside to create proper support with plate aluminum or high quality plywood > that is covered with epoxy and glasscloth? Is this a factory install only? > Thanks all. ----Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Gilbert [mailto:hammerguy@mindspring.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:28 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 6 > > > Tom: > > My bilge pump is located in the side of the footwell in the cockpit, but on > the aft side near the motor cutout. I don't think it was a factory > installation, but it could have been... hard to tell. At any rate I need to > drill out the pop rivets, add new compound, and reseal with bolts. > > Thanks > BG > > -- > Brian Gilbert > Marine Media > M17 "Tiny Dancer" (ex "Stargazer") > (423)876-9990 > 3404 Hartford Drive > Chattanooga, TN 37415 > www.sailingsmall.com > > > > on 7/10/05 5:49 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > > Brian, our M17 came with a manual bilge pump as well, and I believe it > > is a Whale. I called about rebuilding mine and was given some > > information which I will have to re-locate. Is your pump mounted in > > the cockpit at the bridge deck? t > > > > > > Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle > > M15/345--Chukar > > M17/064--Unnamed > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 29, Issue 7 > ***********************************************

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engines
by brooke townsend 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Do I need a long shaft or a short shaft when I go to purchase a new four stroke outboard for my M17? John Bodine

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re: M-15 Ladder AND Locker Storage
by Steve R. 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Larry and Bo, I have two shallow cockpit lockers. In order to install my transom ladder, I mounted a Bomar hatch on the horizontal surface of the starboard cockpit seat. It is centered between the locker and the transom. And, in order to install my motor mount, I mounted a Bomar hatch on the horizontal surface of the port cockpit seat. I think they were about $35 each. I used a hole saw of about 2 inches to drill holes at the corners, and a reciprocating saw to make the straight cuts. Great storage for fenders and lines. Water tight. Very easy to check the mounting bolts for the OB, ladder and rudder. The hatch does stick up slightly above the seat, but is not uncomfortable and I do not sit there for long. Your mileage may...you know. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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San Juan & Gulf Island Pictures
by RandyG 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Friends, >From the recent San Juan and Gulf Islands sail, Larry Yake and Theo Petron's pictures have been added to the picture archive at http://sailing.gravesfam.us . See the links on the left side of the page. Also, 3 short video clips from Larry. And two 1/2 hour video clips from Dick Lane; one video clip for apx. each week of the trip. To view the video clips it works best to first download them to your PC. Larry's clips are in .MOV format and viewable using the free Quick Time player, Nero, or similar player. Dick's are in .AVI format and viewable with Windows Media Player, or similiar. These guys have some really great pictures & video's! Thank Larry, Theo, Dick, for making them available. Randy G. M17 #410

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