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9 ft. boat
by Dave & Eileen Peters 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

There is a 9ft Montgomery for sale on Craiglist. http.www.craiglist.org/eby/boa/86079812.html Dave M17 206

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Re: M_Boats:
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

In a message dated 7/21/2005 3:39:56 PM Central Standard Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: Replacing the M15 will be a smaller and simpler, Joel White designed Shellback dinghy. Connie, It sounds (and looks) perfect. We look forward to hearing about your future sailing adventures! Cheers Steve Tyree

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Re: M_Boats:
by chbenneck＠juno.com 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

Hi gang, After I finished my account of meeting with Neptune and his mermaids (they were real cute, but had a hard time getting around on land), it dawned on me that I had omitted something else that is, at times, a vital part of our overall M15 sailing system. That is the Bolger NYMPH pram dinghy (7'-9") that I built to use as a dinghy with LEPPO. (the 5th real boat I had built, not counting working sail boat models and countless 3' and 4' rubber band powered submarines) If you go to Maine, you can (we only could) find moorings where we were, and without a dinghy to get from the mooring to shore, we found it to be a rather wet walk. So, the NYMPH, varnished wood interior; painted red, with a white boot top and a blue anti fouling bottom has two rowing positions; one pair of 6 foot reworked - lightweight - oars with leathers; oarlocks reworked so that the oarlock angle is correct for comfortable rowing so that the oars don't try to climb out of the oarlocks on each stroke. ..........and to check the loaded weight of NYMPH, it comes with a British Board of Trade "Plimsoll" loading mark at mid length of the dinghy. The NYMPH is very easily car topped, weighing about 60 pounds. Towing it behind the M15, doesn't slow the M15 in the least. They were made for each other. It's a great little rowboat, and I have spent many a calm morning on Lake Champlain or elsewhere, rowing for miles; observing fish, birds, and land people working, while I am out enjoying myself. It is offered as a separate item. Connie

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Re: M_Boats:
by chbenneck＠juno.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Hi gang, As I was working on my M15 before launching it this year, climbing up and down my ladder, loading the boat, I was accosted by a strange looking man with long seaweed for hair and carrying a trident with a nice rock bass impaled on the tines. He was also accompanied by a few mermaids............. He had been watching me load the boat and noticing the perspiration on my forehead, and the sweat stains on my shirt, handed me a cold Forster beer. He introduced himself as Neptune, God of the Waters, and wanted to have a heart to heart talk with me As I gratefully accepted the beer, in our current 90+ degree heat, he asked me to sit down in the shade of the tree and reflect.............. What, kind of reflection, I asked? He took a long drink from his can of Forsters, and looked at me and then asked; "Just how old are you now?" "84" I replied. Then he asked, "Does the Admirable still like to go sailing after her hip replacement operation?" and I had to say "No". "Well," was his next question, "just how long do you think you can keep sailing? ...and I had to answer truthfully, that it was beginning to be a bit of a chore. My mind said I was 30, well, OK, maybe 40, but the body just giggled. That got me to seriously thinking that it was time to swallow the anchor and give up "big" boat sailing. Therefore, I am planning to sell my M15 #400, LEPPO around mid September to the highest bidder. If anyone is interested, or knows someone who might be interested, please contact me off line, and I can supply all the details of the boat; equipment; and the trailer and what I did with it - 8 foot trailer tongue extension and keel guides........... What I will be selling, is not only a boat and it's trailer, but all the ancillary equipment needed: a second (bent) mast to use as a ridge pole for the winter cover; a ridge pole support; the winter cover; boat equipment, including a Magellan GPS, a Standard hand held VHF radio; a propane stove; three anchors with chain and rodes; tool boxes for the boat with tools and spare parts; and a tool box for the trailer with tools and spare parts. Everything you need to be totally self sufficient. Getting old is not for the faint hearted. Connie Silence, as we continued to look into and appreciate the cold beer.

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setting up new mast for M15
by nbundek 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

I'm setting up a new DM-4 mast on my 1981 M15. Does anyone have the height of the installation holes from the step to the hounds? My existing mast was not stock (16" removed) so I don't trust the location. Also, in some pictures of other M15's I've seen the shrouds attached to the forward hole (of the two) in the chain plate. I've also seen them in the stern hole. What is the preferred position of the two? Would you swap them between the two holes due to the anticipated conditions before going out for the day? Norm M15 #172

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Re: M_Boats:
by bownez＠juno.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

CONNIE! Say it isn't so! You're young! What will we do without your words of inspiration? Bones (31 years behind you)

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Re: M_Boats:
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Connie, Splendid post. Please keep writing. Don't quit boating. These vessals are metaphors for our spirits, and their journeys in this marvelous realm. I trust your Bolger Nymph will see lots of use. Do you have other boats in mind? There are a great many homebuilt designs that are very easy to launch and rig. 84 isn't old. Ask any redwood. While you're at it, ask the old codger with the big fork. Cheers Steve Tyree P.S. Fosters is good stuff. Arrogant Bastard Ale, out of San Diego, is incredible. In a message dated 7/19/2005 8:38:11 PM Central Standard Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: Hi gang, As I was working on my M15 before launching it this year, climbing up and down my ladder, loading the boat, I was accosted by a strange looking man with long seaweed for hair and carrying a trident with a nice rock bass impaled on the tines. He was also accompanied by a few mermaids............. He had been watching me load the boat and noticing the perspiration on my forehead, and the sweat stains on my shirt, handed me a cold Forster beer. He introduced himself as Neptune, God of the Waters, and wanted to have a heart to heart talk with me As I gratefully accepted the beer, in our current 90+ degree heat, he asked me to sit down in the shade of the tree and reflect.............. What, kind of reflection, I asked? He took a long drink from his can of Forsters, and looked at me and then asked; "Just how old are you now?" "84" I replied. Then he asked, "Does the Admirable still like to go sailing after her hip replacement operation?" and I had to say "No". "Well," was his next question, "just how long do you think you can keep sailing? ...and I had to answer truthfully, that it was beginning to be a bit of a chore. My mind said I was 30, well, OK, maybe 40, but the body just giggled. That got me to seriously thinking that it was time to swallow the anchor and give up "big" boat sailing. Therefore, I am planning to sell my M15 #400, LEPPO around mid September to the highest bidder. If anyone is interested, or knows someone who might be interested, please contact me off line, and I can supply all the details of the boat; equipment; and the trailer and what I did with it - 8 foot trailer tongue extension and keel guides........... What I will be selling, is not only a boat and it's trailer, but all the ancillary equipment needed: a second (bent) mast to use as a ridge pole for the winter cover; a ridge pole support; the winter cover; boat equipment, including a Magellan GPS, a Standard hand held VHF radio; a propane stove; three anchors with chain and rodes; tool boxes for the boat with tools and spare parts; and a tool box for the trailer with tools and spare parts. Everything you need to be totally self sufficient. Getting old is not for the faint hearted. Connie Silence, as we continued to look into and appreciate the cold beer.

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Re: M_Boats:
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Connie, Sorry to hear that Leppo will be heading to a new home, but I understand when it's time then it's time. I want to thank you for all your great tales and stories of your sailing adventures and I hope you will remain active on this forum and continue to share your knowledge with us. I chuckled when I read your post as it was classic Connie, a clear message within a neat little story. I certainly wish you and the Admiral the best and if you ever in the Solomons, Maryland area and feel the urge to visit Neptune or his buddies I'd be happy to go sailing with you and the Admiral. Best of Luck and take care Gary Valetti Bellerin M17

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Re: Diodes on solar panels
by Brian Gilbert 19 Jul '05

19 Jul '05

Hi Randy: You might be right... it's been awhile since I did anything electronics-related, and I've got a mind as sharp as toasted cheese. So I looked it up, and you are right... it's a simple voltage clamp, and it would prevent you from cooking the batteries. A regular 3 amp 50PIV diode in series will prevent current flowing backward (but I think there's a little bit of current loss from the diode) while the zener clamps the voltage at a maximum level (depending, I would imagine, on the type of zener that you use) I guess I was thinking that zeners were lower-loss than regular diodes... I thought I read that somewhere, but I can't say for sure. I've got all the parts for building my own rigid solar panel, but it's one of those projects that I haven't got around to finishing it yet, but it's on my list. Thanks BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media M17 "Tiny Dancer" (ex "Stargazer") (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 7/19/05 12:45 PM, RandyG at RandyG(a)cite.nic.edu wrote: Hi Brian, Saw your post to the MSOG list and was thinking you might have your definitions for diodes reversed. I believe a normal diode allows the current to flow in only one direction and a zener diode is used to limit/clamp the voltage to a not-to-exceed voltage value. If this is true, then a normal diode would go in series between the battery and solar panel and the zener diode would go in parallel across the solar panel. What do you think? Randy Graves M17 #410

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RE: M_Boats: Re:Diodes on solar panels
by Hughston, Larry 19 Jul '05

19 Jul '05

Brian, If you have not found this site yet here is one for the "Chimp" Henderson pump you're looking for. Good Luck sir. ---Larry http://www.marathonleisure.co.uk/acatalog/sitemap.html -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of Brian Gilbert Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:24 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Re:Diodes on solar panels Hi MC: I'm certainly no wizard, but I know what the zenier diode is for. It's like a one-way valve for electricity. Without it, reverse current will flow back into the panel at night, heating the cells and draining the battery. It doesn't protect from overcharging, but it does drop the useable voltage a bit. To keep from cooking your battery, you need to size the panel to your battery bank. Unfortunately, I can't remember off the top of my head how to size the panel, but Spurr's Boatbook devotes an entire chapter on the subject. I think that the basic jist of things is that small panels are really only good for keeping up with the self-discharge of the battery. Bigger panels are needed to replace current... sometimes you need a lot of panel to refill the battery if your electrical demands are high. Hope this helps BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media M17 "Tiny Dancer" (ex "Stargazer") (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com on 7/18/05 7:49 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com at montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > I am going to add a small solar panel on top of the hatch cover - is > there an electric wizard in the group, I was told today that to > protect the battery from boiling dry, I should solder in place a 14.4 > volt zenner diode between the solar > panel and the battery to prevent overcharging when at the dock or on trailer > for a > few weeks. Apart from the back-feed diode which is also needed when no charge > controller is used. > > Thanks, > MC _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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