January 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: Channel Islands Santa Barbara
by Fuh-Shing Pan 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Hi, JIm, It's exciting to witness a SCA Monty-get-together in the making. I am a novice sailor (only two years experience) and would like to tag along in your summer Santa Cruz cruise, if not much of a bother. I had joined SCA Potters group for the past one year and made passages to Catalina and Anacapa Islands once each. Sure enjoyed their hospitality and camaraderie. If you like to make this cruise as a joint adventure with Potters group, you may contact Captain Howie at howieman(a)howies.net or visit their web site http://www.howies.net/socalpotter/ Looking forward to meeting you. Fuh-Shing Pan M15 #120 Glendora, California >From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> >Reply-To: jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com, For and about Montgomery >Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: M_Boats: Channel Islands Santa Barbara >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:03:59 -0800 > >I am interested in sailing my M15 from Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz Island >this summer. > >Has anyone made the trip? How long did it take? > >I would like to find other M15 etc that might want to go along. > >Appreciae any ideas > >Jim Sadler > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M15 rudder
by Rick Langer 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Hey Norm, Your rudder doesn't look like the one on my boat #337. My rudder is mahogany and you can't miss the lifting mechanism that's between the plates. Maybe someone eliminated the mechanism on your set up. I suppose you sent Bob the link, so maybe he will have some ideas. I'd prefer to have this conversation on the list so we can all contribute and benefit from the solution. My rudder is all apart and now being varnished. At some point I could layout the internal parts to show you how the kick-up mechanism works. Right now everything is scattered around my house and barn, but the last coat of varnish goes on today and then I'll start putting it back together. Rick Langer ----- Original Message ----- From: nbundek To: farreach(a)optonline.net Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: M15 rudder Rick, Here's a link to my rudder: www.yourcommunityweb.com/monty15/rudder.htm . The hole is the dark spot in the white area just above the green to the rear of the blade. Bob told me about lifting the tiller also. I took the rudder apart in my re-furb and replacement of corroded bolts. There is nothing inside the aluminum that connects to the tiller or blade. The aluminum only holds the blade in place with one bolt. If some thing was connected to the blade, it's long gone. There was not an outline of any missing parts inside the aluminum that I could see. All the other spacers had a definite outline in the aluminum. Norm

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Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz Cruise
by Norm Bundek 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Hi Jim, I live in Ventura (24 miles East of SB). I bought my M15 #172 in November. In my test sail, we went out to Anacapa Island ( closest of the Channel Islands). I am just about finished with a total re-furb of my M. I'm finishing the trailer this weekend along with few other items on the M. The rains and cold weather over the Holidays set me back about three weeks. I can't wait to get out. I should a lot of experience in the Channel Islands by summer and would like to put a trip together. Where are you located? Norm Bundek M15 #172

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Re: M_Boats: Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz Cruise
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

In a message dated 1/18/2005 10:06:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, marinermanm17(a)msn.com writes: Hey Norm, Hey Jim, Hey, Norm, Jim, Mark Please add Bill & M-17 Tipperary to this list of possibles. Sure is close by. I'd love to hear about the possibilities Hey... Who's the leader of this expedition? And is this yet another 2005 Montgomery Get together? Thanks

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RE: M_Boats: Re: rudder on M15-Ques for Bob
by Smith, Tom 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Hey Bob, have you guys tried the M15 style kickup approach on the M17. I seem to remember Jerry tried it but for some reason didn't pursue it. An observation Larry Yake had, and that I agree with now that I have both boats for comparison, is the M15 setup is less positive feeling than the "direct connect" M17 arrangement. What do you think? t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Fairfield, WA M15-345 Chukar M17-064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tom.smith=itron.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:42 PM To: nbundek; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: rudder on M15 Norm..Norm.. The rudder will come up with a simple movement of the tiller from the cockpit. Maybe you don't know how this works? Move the tiller up and down with a quick movement, the rudder will automatically fold UP and the blade will be horizontal. To lower the blade simply raise the tiller again and it will fall down to the vertical position. Fair winds Bob (949) 489-8227 nbundek wrote: >My recently purchased M15 has a 1/8" hole just below the bottom aluminum plate holding the rudder. The hole is on the backside of rudder above the water line. It looks like something should be connected. > >Is this a place to hook up a line to lift the rudder blade out of the water in shallow water or beaching? If yes, can someone explain how to hook it up? Can the rudder blade be put back into the water the same way with a second line? > >Thanks, > >Norm M15 #172 >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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rudder on M15
by Rick Langer 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Norm, If you have the same rudder as my M15, you pick it up by lifting the tiller. There's a rod that pushes the top of the rudder down hence lifting it on its pivot. I currently have my rudder all apart and there is no hole where you describe it. Doesn't seem like it would have the required mechanical advantage needed to lift the rudder with the hole so high. Rick Langer M13 #337 > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:44:49 -0800 > From: "nbundek" <nbundek(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: rudder on M15 > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <002701c4fce6$268d7960$c900000a@Sales> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My recently purchased M15 has a 1/8" hole just below the bottom aluminum plate holding the rudder. The hole is on the backside of rudder above the water line. It looks like something should be connected. > > Is this a place to hook up a line to lift the rudder blade out of the water in shallow water or beaching? If yes, can someone explain how to hook it up? Can the rudder blade be put back into the water the same way with a second line? > > Thanks, > > Norm M15 #172 > >

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M15 to Santa Cruz Island...Jim Sadler
by Bud 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Hi Jim Some time ago I'm quite sure Jerry Montgomery made this trip in an M15. He would be a good one for you to talk to about this trip. Fair winds Bud M15 #500 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

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Re: M_Boats: CLC's Forklift
by Harvey G Wilson 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Hi John.. Love to take you up on that forklift offer, but Lake Lanier is a long way from the Chesapeake<sigh> Do you ever generate scrap 3/8 in. marine plywood of a size to make a 3 board hatchboard for a M-17?? I've tried to find Luan or Teak both locally and at Port Clinton, Ohio, but to no avail. I've got the lower third if I can get the rest. Be happy to pay shipping... Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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southern california lakes
by Jim Sadler 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

Any suggestions for nice lakes in Southern california for sailing a M15. Like to anchor and spent the night aboard. Jim

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Re: rudder on M15
by nbundek 18 Jan '05

18 Jan '05

My recently purchased M15 has a 1/8" hole just below the bottom aluminum plate holding the rudder. The hole is on the backside of rudder above the water line. It looks like something should be connected. Is this a place to hook up a line to lift the rudder blade out of the water in shallow water or beaching? If yes, can someone explain how to hook it up? Can the rudder blade be put back into the water the same way with a second line? Thanks, Norm M15 #172

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