January 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Montgomery Art Work...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Jan '05

23 Jan '05

Okay Fellow Montgomery Sailors... You are in for a real treat with this new album on the MSOG Photo Site. I am truly amazed at the amount of talent this group has. In this case it is David Wood. David has burned a bit of midnight oil to create a line art page that is to die for. When you look at the pics, keep in mind they need to be downloaded to be of decent size and it will take a littletime as David made each file large for our use. More stuff to come in the next couple of weeks. Technical stuff and a beautiful new M-15 and more... stay tuned. Bill www.MSOG.funtigo.com Enjoy the photos

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Funtigo
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Excellent Bob. If they contact me instead of you. I'll ask them to respond to you. Sorry you can't see the pics. Maybe soon. Bill

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More new stuff on the Photo Site...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Hi All, Almost 10,000 hits on the photo site!!! Just put together a new section called "Maintainance & Modifications". The very first part of this section is an area called "Items of ongoing discussion on the MSOG Forum". Very soon I'll be able to give a couple of names of people who will be able to post pictures into this section. For now, when an item requires a picture to get a point across, Email it to me and ask that I post it in the DISCUSSION Section. I'll get it done as soon as possible. Then we can all benefit from one anothers experience/knowledge. For this section (only) we will accept any picture large or small. anything helps when a photo explanation is required. So use it folks... (Whoever has the picture, needed by Bud M15 #500 of the reefing. If you dont mind sending it to me as well, I'll get it on the site.) Also you'll see a couple of other links one for "motor carrier" and another for "keel guides". Links like these will never be finished. If you have a couple of pictures that fit into these or future catagories, let me know. Just got a couple of CD's in that have lots of great pics. Stay tuned. More to come. Bill

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Web browsing with Macs (was Funtigo...)
by Craig F. Honshell 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Excellent, Rachel. I know the Apple software is superior, but I put up with the vagaries of Microsoft because it's what I've always known. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel To: Craig F. Honshell ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Web browsing with Macs (was Funtigo...) Hi Craig, I do just as you do - I use Firefox most of the time, but hang onto IE and Safari just in case. Besides, I like the way IE can download a whole web page as a WAFF file - that's the feature I miss most about IE now that I no longer use it regularly. AND I have a Mac! So we're not out of luck after all :-) On Jan 22, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Craig F. Honshell wrote: When I downloaded Firefox, I expressly did not delete IE, for just such a reason . . . If the Mac users can't access the links, perhaps they're just out of luck . . .

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Pulling a large kayak with an M15
by Norm Bundek 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

I'm wondering how much the sailing characteristics of an M15 would be degraded by pulling a 12' 6" kayak. I have a Hobie Outback which is just 2' 6" shorter than the Monty. Has anyone experienced pulling anything this large? The Outback weighs 64 lbs. The good part about this kayak is that with it's Mirage drive system (peddle power) it can tow the Monty. I was going to sell it for something smaller but thought I would get some opinions on it first. This is what the kayak looks like: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/kayak.htm . Norm M15 #172

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Re: M_Boats: How Far?
by Saltm17＠aol.com 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Jerry, I sent an email to your old address and don't know if you got it or not, so I'm sending this one. I am very frustrated becasue a Catalina 22 is outpointing me when I use to stay with it, or point higher by pinching. Maybe you can tell me what to look for, adjust, fix etc to get back to being competitive. This sucks! John

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Re: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15
by Larry E Yake 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Norm, I think it will work fine. My 12 ft. kayak tows very easily. The tricky part with a kayak is getting in and out of it alongside your boat. Mine has an extra large cockpit which helps a lot. Also, I have a whitewater kayaking background, so I'm used to the balance and feel of a kayak. Your sit-on-top model should be even easier. Give it a try and see how you like it before selling it. Larry Yake M17, #200 Tullamore

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M15 Reefing...Bill Riker
by Bud 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Bill I would like to use the down-haul on my M15. Down the road when our paths cross I can take a look at yours and write down just what I need to do this and see how its set up. Yes, I hope to take a sailing class in 2005. I'm laughing at myself Bill! Thank you for your help. Fair winds Bud M15 #500 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

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RE: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15
by RandyG 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Hi Norm, The painter to our inflatable is about 8 ft. long. It splits out into a V and attaches to mount points about 1/4 back on the inflatable. The idea is have the painter give some lift to the bow of the Dingy when towed. But waves/chop of any size hit the nose of the inflatable and cause significant drag. I have tried shortening the painter, but if you get too close then you have to worry about interference with the rudder and motor. Larry Yake pulls a Kayak behind his 17. His is more of the long slender type. He likes it but has to be careful when getting in and out. I believe he said it has little drag. Randy -----Original Message----- From: Norm Bundek [mailto:nbundek@earthlink.net] Sent: Fri 1/21/2005 8:00 AM To: RandyG Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15 Thanks Randy. How far back do you tow your inflatable? Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: "RandyG" <RandyG(a)cite.nic.edu> To: "Norm Bundek" <nbundek(a)earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15 Norm, We have a 9 ft. inflatable we have towed behind our M-15. I really like to have a good rowing inflatable on trips. The inflatable weighs 45 lbs. Your Kayak would probably tow better than our inflatable. I think the Kayak would sit more on top of the water than the inflatable. Anyways.... in calm conditions the inflatable tows well. If there is ANY chop at all, the drag placed on the 15 by the inflatable is too much! The 15 slows by 1 knot or more. In conditions like this we deflate and stow it. Randy Graves M-15 # 407 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Norm Bundek Sent: Fri 1/21/2005 7:30 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15 I'm wondering how much the sailing characteristics of an M15 would be degraded by pulling a 12' 6" kayak. I have a Hobie Outback which is just 2' 6" shorter than the Monty. Has anyone experienced pulling anything this large? The Outback weighs 64 lbs. The good part about this kayak is that with it's Mirage drive system (peddle power) it can tow the Monty. I was going to sell it for something smaller but thought I would get some opinions on it first. This is what the kayak looks like: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/kayak.htm . Norm M15 #172 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15
by RandyG 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Norm, We have a 9 ft. inflatable we have towed behind our M-15. I really like to have a good rowing inflatable on trips. The inflatable weighs 45 lbs. Your Kayak would probably tow better than our inflatable. I think the Kayak would sit more on top of the water than the inflatable. Anyways.... in calm conditions the inflatable tows well. If there is ANY chop at all, the drag placed on the 15 by the inflatable is too much! The 15 slows by 1 knot or more. In conditions like this we deflate and stow it. Randy Graves M-15 # 407 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Norm Bundek Sent: Fri 1/21/2005 7:30 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Pulling a large kayak with an M15 I'm wondering how much the sailing characteristics of an M15 would be degraded by pulling a 12' 6" kayak. I have a Hobie Outback which is just 2' 6" shorter than the Monty. Has anyone experienced pulling anything this large? The Outback weighs 64 lbs. The good part about this kayak is that with it's Mirage drive system (peddle power) it can tow the Monty. I was going to sell it for something smaller but thought I would get some opinions on it first. This is what the kayak looks like: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/kayak.htm . Norm M15 #172 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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