December 2003 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: M17 through a 7ft. opening
by Smith, Tom 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I solved this very problem Larry. I think the building I now refer to as the boat shed has a standard opening. To get the M17 in I simply lowered the tongue of the trailer to the ground and slid the whole works backwards into the building. Admitedly it was close--the pulpit cleared by a couple of inches. I was prepared to let air out of the tires, but that tactic didn't turn out to be necessary... t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Larry Yake [mailto:leyake@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:03 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 line drawings Gary, I don't know if all M17's are the same, but my '76 has a 21'4" mast, 21'10" with fittings and masthead light. If your garage door is a standard 7', it won't fit in unless you remove the bow pulpit and tabernacle. Larry On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:41:51 -0800 Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> writes: > Wayne: > I'm interested in those M17 line drawings. I need to know how high > the > boat is on the trailer to know if it will fit through my garage door > > and how long the mast is. > Thanks. > --Gary Hyde > M15 #235 'Vanilla' > N24 'Sailabration' > > On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 06:10 PM, wayne yeargain wrote: > > > Hi Jerry: > > Sorry your e-mail bounced, don't know why it did that - I am at > the > > same address, must have been a gremlin in the wire. Any way > thanks > > for the M17 line drawings, I got them today, & am going to start > some > > drawings right away. > > I'll send you and any one who is intrested, some copies when I'm > done. > > Had my M17 out Sat. about 10knt wind and it just romped along like > the > > throughbred it is......... life is sweet. > > Happy sails > > Wayne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!!

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Re: M_Boats: The black hole...
by dik lang 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Rusty, you know you can hve me give repair lessons for beers! dik lang sweet pea m-17 >From: Rusty Knorr <mazemusic(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: For and about Montgomery >Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ><montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: The black hole... >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:35:13 -0800 (PST) > >I borrowed a copy of that book from Dik Lang and it is >FANTASTIC! I will definitely be getting my own copy. > > -Rusty > > >--- chbenneck(a)juno.com wrote: > > Rusty, > > > > If you have no experience working with fiberglass > > then get the Gougeon > > Brothers WEST System Product Guide and Technical > > Manual book - it's > > free. > > > > It is an excellent guide to all sorts of repairs; > > modifications; gel coat > > repairs; etc. and will give you a firm foundation in > > how to do the work. > > > > If you go to WEST Marine, they have the WEST System > > products as well as > > various other WEST System publications: > > "Fiberglass Boat Repair and Maintenance" - $3.00; > > "Gelcoat Blisters: > > Diagnosis, Repair and Prevention" > > & "Fairing Guide" each $3.00 (but the price might > > be higher today. This > > was from an 1999 WEST Marine catalog). > > > > Connie > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > >===== >"In a power boat you may get there faster, > but in a sailboat you are already there." > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

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Nordic Dinghy
by Steve & Diana Parsons 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Greets, Do any of you know anything about a Nordic Dinghy? I was roaming the backcountry today west of Salem, OR and found one (full of water and neglected) on a rural property. Looks a lot like a M10. I was tempted to knock on the door to see if it was for sale. Regards, Steve

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M17 line drawings
by wayne yeargain 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Hi Jerry: Sorry your e-mail bounced, don't know why it did that - I am at the same address, must have been a gremlin in the wire. Any way thanks for the M17 line drawings, I got them today, & am going to start some drawings right away. I'll send you and any one who is intrested, some copies when I'm done. Had my M17 out Sat. about 10knt wind and it just romped along like the throughbred it is......... life is sweet. Happy sails Wayne

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Re: M_Boats: The black hole...
by chbenneck＠juno.com 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Rusty, Even with the shallow lockers, that keep water out of the inside of the boat, do you want to loose your eyeglasses, camera, Rolex watch, wife or girlfriend's diamond ring, car keys, and wallet because you didn't have a latch on the lids? Keep things closed that are meant to be closed, and don't let them fling all their contents into the ocean when you have your hands full with a cockpit full of water; a main sheet that is jammed; and you are heading for a lee shore................ If your sail lockers are locked, that is one less problem to worry about................. and their contents will still be all there when the panic has subsided. .........scrambled maybe, but still there. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Double postings
by Harvey Wilson 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

>>You've probably subscribed with two addresses. Go to the web site and look through the membership list for your addresses. Unsubscribe the unwanted, or mark it for no mail delivery if you use it for posting.<< Hmmmm...I don't remember subscribing twice, as I've been on this list for 5-6 years now....wasn't getting doubles before the last month or so. Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: M17 line drawings
by Larry Yake 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Gary, I don't know if all M17's are the same, but my '76 has a 21'4" mast, 21'10" with fittings and masthead light. If your garage door is a standard 7', it won't fit in unless you remove the bow pulpit and tabernacle. Larry On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:41:51 -0800 Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> writes: > Wayne: > I'm interested in those M17 line drawings. I need to know how high > the > boat is on the trailer to know if it will fit through my garage door > > and how long the mast is. > Thanks. > --Gary Hyde > M15 #235 'Vanilla' > N24 'Sailabration' > > On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 06:10 PM, wayne yeargain wrote: > > > Hi Jerry: > > Sorry your e-mail bounced, don't know why it did that - I am at > the > > same address, must have been a gremlin in the wire. Any way > thanks > > for the M17 line drawings, I got them today, & am going to start > some > > drawings right away. > > I'll send you and any one who is intrested, some copies when I'm > done. > > Had my M17 out Sat. about 10knt wind and it just romped along like > the > > throughbred it is......... life is sweet. > > Happy sails > > Wayne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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RE: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks!
by Morris, Giles 13 Dec '03

13 Dec '03

> 6ft 1 inch headroom Perhaps I'm just getting inflexible (physically, that is) but standing headroom seems to make such a difference in overall perception of well-being. It doesn't have to be everywhere, but being able to stand up inside is such a joy! It's different with my M-15 (I've never been aboard an m-17) because in my mind, the cabin is a tent -- and therefore becomes luxurious by tent standards. I'd mentioned the Compac 23 in another reply to this thread, and it seems rather wonderful, but I'll never (well... who can say "never" about anything?) own one because of the headroom. I know that other people feel differently about this. (Rambling even further from the point) At the Annapolis show a couple of weeks ago, I went aboard a reproduction of an English wooden fishing boat that a couple had built for themselves. They (and the boat) seemed lovely people and a younger version of the Pardeys who had built their boat in just over two years from basic materials (i.e. logs!). Although it was well over 30 ft on deck it would be considered small below, but it was one of the most comfortable boats I've ever been aboard. It only had standing headroom in the doghouse under the aft hatchway and in the workshop, but it was enough. Was anybody else on the list lucky enough to go aboard that wonderful boat? Although it was based on an older English design, it felt very much like Lyle Hess's work -- or perhaps that should be the other way round. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of John Fleming Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:24 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks! Randy Graves wrote: > Friends, > > Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. > Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around > the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat > would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum > trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & > trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat > are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we > can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a > variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its > value. In essence; a larger Montgomery! Randy, It's somewhat heretical (or more like unfaithful, nautical philandering!) to discuss other boats when you're committed to a particular beauty, but here goes ... As a committed Montgomery owner, the only other boat I'd consider for your (or my) requirements would be a Laguna 26. There aren't many out there, but it's a good one, and I'd say it'd work. My good friends have one (they're former M-15 owners), and have sailed it in the San Juan's for the summer. They have trailered it all around the West, even sailing it in Jackson Lake at the foot of the Tetons. It is currently in Pimlico Sound, North Carolina, awaiting my friend's return from his year of duty in Iraq. Our family is getting bigger, and my wife is tired of hitting her head. One of the nicest things about the Laguna 26 is it has 6ft 1 inch headroom. There's plenty of room, quite a lot actually for a 26 footer. It comes in several different interior configurations: port/starboard settees, port U-shaped seat with starboard galley & nav station, and another kind. Like any boat that size, it has to be specially rigged for single-handling. You need to make sure it either has it, or you know how to install it. On a Montgomery 15 or 17, it hardly matters. As long as you have a foresail downhaul, which are trivial to make, everything else can be handled from the cockpit no matter how it's rigged. Another difference is that the Laguna 26 has shallow cockpit coamings, unlike the deep ones of the Montgomery. It's definitely a different feeling. The bridgedeck on the Laguna is a little better than M-17 but not much. I believe there is one currently for sail in Portland, OR, for about 15K asking price. Regards, John Fleming M-17: "Star Cross'd" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Double postings
by Harvey Wilson 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

I'm getting two of every post...how to eliminate this?? Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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MSOG offline for a few hours
by Doug King 12 Dec '03

12 Dec '03

Turns out the MSOG's Internet Service Provider, the company that hosts the web site, is moving to another facility. They anticipate they (and therefore MSOG) will be offline for 3-5 hours on December 18, starting around 11 PM Eastern. Might as well figure eight hours. Thanks, Doug

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