December 2003 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Merry Christmas
by Larry Yake 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

Merry Christmas everybody! Thank you all for another great year of sailing stories and advice. Larry Yake

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my web page update
by htmills＠bright.net 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

...in case anyone is interested, I've updated my web page a bit with a little about my sheet-to-tiller experiences. Not all links on the main page are working yet (of the trip stories, only the Nfld one works). http://www.bright.net/~htmills/ There is a lot more to add to it; hopefully *someone* will find something of interest there.... Webmaster Doug, if you want to free up some disk space for the MSOG page perhaps we could transfer some of my baggage (like the Lake Huron story) to my page? Tod

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Mike Huffine's fouling question
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

A friend of mine kept his Catalina 22 in a slip on Percy Priest Lake in Middle Tennessee. This lake is plenty warm. He used to scrub the hull once or twice a year with mask, snorkel, and scrubrush. He said the algae came right off without the benefit of antifouling paint. Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Anne" In a message dated 12/23/2003 3:09:33 PM Central Standard Time, david_hill(a)idg.com writes: Hi Mike -- I have M17 Hull #619. I kept it on a mooring in Lake Winnipesaukee, NH, for two and a half months this past summer. I put on my mask and snorkel and scrubbed the bottom three times in the course of the summer and it came out clean as a whistle in the fall. Winnipesaukee is a large northern lake, but the surface gets reasonably warm in the summer. I doubt you need any special coating on your boat.

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Re: New 17
by Russ Browne 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Mike, welcome 1 I will look forward to meeting you and seeing Dulcibella. I, too, live in Omaha and sail on Branched Oak in my 17' ComPac SunCat. I have a barrier coat of epoxy and an anti-fouling c9oat of black on her, but have used VC-17 for years on the Great Lakes. You will grow some algea "whiskers" but they will powerwash right off. Will you keep your boat at the lake? There is a great marina and a very active, yetr inexpensive, yacht club at the lake. Fewl free to contact me off list at russbrowne(a)mac.com or at 402 991 0846. I had a Monty 15 severl years ago, and it was the best sailing boat I had owned to that point, or since. Russ Browne P J Puddlejumper ComPac SunCat #16 Branched Oak Yacht Club Sailing the prairies of Nebraska

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Re: Mike Huffine's fouling question
by david_hill＠idg.com 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Hi Mike -- I have M17 Hull #619. I kept it on a mooring in Lake Winnipesaukee, NH, for two and a half months this past summer. I put on my mask and snorkel and scrubbed the bottom three times in the course of the summer and it came out clean as a whistle in the fall. Winnipesaukee is a large northern lake, but the surface gets reasonably warm in the summer. I doubt you need any special coating on your boat. David Hill "Grouper"

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Bottom Paint
by Michael Huffine 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Thanks for all the great inputs on bottom paint for Dulcibella. I guess I would rather play it safe, so I am going with paint (even though it isn't cheap). Howard, you are welcome to come up to Branched Oak Reservoir just north of Lincoln, Nebraska, any time. Stockton Lake sounds appealing too! Thanks again. Mike Huffine M-17 #616 _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx

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RE: M_Boats: FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by Morris, Giles 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

>grown quit a beard I've just had Dolphin pulled out of the water after floating through four (five?) winters. I was expecting the worst. Sunday was the first time I could get down to the marina, and I could see the boat sitting in the parking lot. When I got up to the hull I realized that I was at the wrong boat because this one had clearly been in the water only a few months. Whoa!!! This WAS the one!! They'd run the pressure washer over the hull while she was on the Travelift, so the results of the astonishing barnacle growth we had on the Chesapeake this year showed where they had missed it. Otherwise, it was perfect -- and the dried barnacles were easily removed by hand. So... West Marine's house brand ablative anti-fouling sold five years ago works extremely well in the mid-Chesapeake. I had put a gallon of black on first and then two gallons of blue. The black is just beginning to show through in high-wear areas (on the stem, near the prop etc). I will be using that same paint again if it's still available. Giles Morris Arlington VA Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Miscellaneous small craft -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+giles.morris=unisys.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+giles.morris=unisys.com@mailman.xmissio n.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:44 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Mike: Where do you intend to sail? MO River or one of the lower MO River reservoirs? I'm in Columbia, MO and could probably be talked into coming up for a weekend sail next summer, or perhaps we could organize a weekend at Lake Stockton in SW MO. There are 4 or 5 Monty's within 3 or 4 hours drive of there. Not a big lake, but good sailing, nonetheless. The main thing in the warm and fertile Midwest waters is slime and algea. I've painted my bottom twice, and the last time used the Interlux stuff with Biolux, and still had bottom growth. She had grown quit a beard since July. But it did come off easily with a power washer. I think the copper stuff is VC 17, and is slick... but I tried it on my rudder last summer, and it didn't help much with the algea. If you leave her in the water, you are going to need to do a periodic scrubbing, so whatever you put on needs to hold up to that. Interlux does sell the VC 17 with Biolux, so that may help slow it down some. Regards, Howard M17, #278 Audasea PS: If you are sailing in Nebraska, and don't have two reef points in your main, this winter would be a good time to get that taken care of. You won't regret it! On 12/21/03 12:28 PM, "Michael Huffine" <huffine(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > All > > Let me introduce myself. I am Mike Huffine, and I live in Omaha, Nebraska. > I recently bought David Fann's Dulcibella, hull number 616 (2001). > Dulcibella is hopefully adjusting to Nebraska versus Florida weather as we > "speak." Unlike David who trailer sailed, I plan to place her in a slip > for the season next year (May through October), and I understand I will need > to have a barrier coat and bottom paint applied. (By the way, David was > most gracious to me and answered every question I had at the time--a very > nice transaction) > > I want to beat the spring rush by having the boat work done now, over the > holidays. My local sailboat dealer is recommending a barrier coat and VC 17 > bottom paint. Since Dulcibella has green accents, I plan to ask for the > bottom paint that is a copper finish when wetted. The dealer is planning to > contact Montgomery to determine where the water line is. > > I have watched this list for some time now and have been impressed with the > tremendous level of expertise and experience. If anyone has comments, > cautions or suggestions on the above, I would be grateful. I am new to > sailing, and this list has already been a great help. > > Thanks! > > Mike and Mary Huffine M-17 Hull # 616

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FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by Michael Huffine 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

All Let me introduce myself. I am Mike Huffine, and I live in Omaha, Nebraska. I recently bought David Fann's Dulcibella, hull number 616 (2001). Dulcibella is hopefully adjusting to Nebraska versus Florida weather as we "speak." Unlike David who trailer sailed, I plan to place her in a slip for the season next year (May through October), and I understand I will need to have a barrier coat and bottom paint applied. (By the way, David was most gracious to me and answered every question I had at the time--a very nice transaction) I want to beat the spring rush by having the boat work done now, over the holidays. My local sailboat dealer is recommending a barrier coat and VC 17 bottom paint. Since Dulcibella has green accents, I plan to ask for the bottom paint that is a copper finish when wetted. The dealer is planning to contact Montgomery to determine where the water line is. I have watched this list for some time now and have been impressed with the tremendous level of expertise and experience. If anyone has comments, cautions or suggestions on the above, I would be grateful. I am new to sailing, and this list has already been a great help. Thanks! Mike and Mary Huffine M-17 Hull # 616 _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx

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Re: M_Boats: FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by fml162＠aol.com 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

My 2 cents worth: I am not convinced that you need the barrier coat: 1) Your sailing season is relatively short. 2) Your water is not all that "warm." And 3) My understanding from visiting with Bob Eeg (just purchased Hull #623, my 2nd M-17) the newer vinyl ester materials are not that susceptable to water penetration. I suggest that you visit with Bob to get his take on the situation. On the other hand, how much money are we talking about here? When in doubt, I always fall back on the "ounce of prevention ..." dictum. The final answer at our houseultimately comes down to "what gives you the best night's sleep." Merry Christmas from Rockport, Texas & Southwest Harbor, Maine. Skip Langley

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M17 for sale
by Roberta Dvorscak 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Well, I've listed Grace on the MSOG site. I can only sail one boat at a time and I would hate for Grace to be sitting forlorn on her trailer while we're out cruising on our "new" M-23. She's one of the best and she's now available. Photos available on request. Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace M-23 #74 ?????

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