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by Jerry Montgomery 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

John Harris- Just talked to a friend, John "Killer" Weed, who is a long-time canoe/kayak racing cohort and adversary, who just won his class in the 460 mi Yukon Quest race in one of your tandem kayaks. He and his partner were first kayak to finish. Congrats! Got me pumped up to do it next year. Jerry

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Type 12
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

To the list and Jerry; I believe my father had your 'personal' M-12- the really nice looking blue one. adjustable mast step (not 2 position- but adj.) barberhaul this and that, fully hotrodded! One very cool boat but like my Penguin it loves to humble a person who is either: not agile, fast on ones feet and fully attentive at all times. I like to call them "tender" boats. An absolutely stunning looking boat and went like the dickens to boot. We call this BAS. Boat Acquisition Syndrome- If I only had more time/ space/ money/ wind! Good Sailing and have FUN Gary O. M-17 #316A with a new name- Blue Goose

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Test - Rejoining the list after vacation. No need to read
by Steve & Diana Parsons 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

But if you do, we were up in the Johnstone Strait area. WOW!!!! Vancouver Island is great. We took our fishing boat, not the M15, and had a wonderful time. I would like to take the M15 up to that part of the world some day, but I think a good (make that great) understanding of the current tables is definately in order. Lots of eagles, orcas, etc... Regards, skp

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Yellow Waukegan M-17
by brezinski 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

Hi Everybody, This is Mike from Waukegan, IL, the frustrated sailor between sailboats. I've been a quiet member thus far, reading all your messages, which has helped me keep the dream alive and the frustration to a minimum. I'm planning on my next boat being a M-17, probably next year, which is why I found Howard's crawling around Larson's here in Waukegan particularly interesting. So, F.Y.I., I went down there to check it out this morning and found out that it's not currently for sale, and belongs to a employee of Larson's. I immediately recognized it as being the same boat that had been in a slip very close to mine in Waukegan during the season of 1998. Nice boat, and pretty well-equipped. I'm planning on contacting the owner and telling him to call me if and when he might be selling, to let me make the first offer. As they say, Fair Winds, Mike

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Re: M_Boats: wrong boat number
by racsrv＠attbi.com 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

Jerry, I'm using a CDI FF2 furler on my M-17. It's simple and works beautifully with both my working jib and 150. This is the first boat I've owned with a furler and wouldn't want to be without one now. They're very handy, especially for single handing. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA > > I put the wrong hull number when I regs how do I change > it on my > > registration. Also would like more info on the jib > furling for the M-17.

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Montgomery Type 12
by Dave Steensland 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

I am a new member of the list. My interest is based on a friends boat. It is a Montgomery Marine Type 12, a small open 12 ft. sailboat. According to the serial number it was manufactured in 1973. I checked the archives but saw no mention of an M12. Is anyone familiar with this model? This particular boat hasn't been in the water for years.

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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Conbert H Benneck 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

Steve, Thanks for your great description of sailor's nirvana. I can just picture it. But as sailors, we have to pay for our fleeting pleasures, and it sounded as if the Big Toll Taker in the Sky was working overtime in your case. Recommendation: one quart oil containers filled with gasoline are great for stowing, and for refueling the Honda in a bouncy seaway. They are easy to aim, easy to pour, and a lot easier to hold than a gallon container with a spout. Two of them would have kept you going almost all day........ There was an article in the Hartford newspaper about a Connecticut man who builds cannons. He started making regatta starter cannons, but now has branched out into replicas of old naval cannons of almost any size you might need or want. Which leads me to think............ a small cannon mounted on the foredeck of the M15 for use against PWCs. It might be a nice Sunday sailor's sport, but is probably illegal, and certainly not PC! But what would you use, grape shot? or chain shot? or bird shot? Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Type 12
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

The only thing I can tell you is the M12 hull looks almost identical to the M10.

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RE: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Shawn Boles 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

I use a wrist rocket slingshot and ball bearings - quiet and effective. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Conbert H Benneck [mailto:chbenneck@juno.com] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:20 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) Steve, Thanks for your great description of sailor's nirvana. I can just picture it. But as sailors, we have to pay for our fleeting pleasures, and it sounded as if the Big Toll Taker in the Sky was working overtime in your case. Recommendation: one quart oil containers filled with gasoline are great for stowing, and for refueling the Honda in a bouncy seaway. They are easy to aim, easy to pour, and a lot easier to hold than a gallon container with a spout. Two of them would have kept you going almost all day........ There was an article in the Hartford newspaper about a Connecticut man who builds cannons. He started making regatta starter cannons, but now has branched out into replicas of old naval cannons of almost any size you might need or want. Which leads me to think............ a small cannon mounted on the foredeck of the M15 for use against PWCs. It might be a nice Sunday sailor's sport, but is probably illegal, and certainly not PC! But what would you use, grape shot? or chain shot? or bird shot? Connie _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by s.mcclellan＠attbi.com 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

Hey Howard -- Thanks for the wisdom. I'd say what you describe in regards to Lake Michigan conditions fits my experience pretty well. A couple of weeks ago I attempted my longest sail yet -- left the Evanston boat ramp at about 8:00 AM, and there didn't seem to be a breath of wind though the forecast called for winds of 5 to 10 knots. I fired up the 2-hp Honda short shaft and headed straight out east toward the middle of the Lake -- I could see by the look of the water that there was some breeze out there -- where I was, I could see all the way to the bottom the surface was so smooth. Highly unusual. By the time I was a mile out or so, the breeze began to pick up out of the west. Cut off the motor, and headed south toward Chicago Harbor, maybe 8 or 10 miles away. For the next two hours I had what was undoubtedly the best sail of my life. The breeze was strong enough that I could do something like hull speed, and yet with the wind just picking up from the west, there was virtually no chop at all. Smooth as silk. A very unusual set of conditions for Lake Michgan -- at least in my limited experience. But it was exhilarating! Cruising along at hull speed -- and so smooth a ride I might have been heading down the highway my Dad's old Buick. And -- one more great thing -- it was too early for the majority of the stinkpotters and all of the PWCs! I was plowing this big beautiful flat lake all alone, with the deep blue sky above and the extraordinary, breathtaking Chicago skyline spread out before my eyes, all the way from Hollywood Avenue in the north, down the Gold Coast, the Miracle Mile, to the skyscrapers of the Loop and beyond. What a view! What a day! Man that was sailing! I got down to the harbor in about 3 hours, sailed by the Chicago Light and right up to Navy Pier, but then my fortunes began to wane -- the wind had shifted Northerly and the waves were really picking up -- once I began heading back north, the chop I was going through was bone-jarring. Before long, the waves had gotten quite large (4-5 feet I'd guess). I just couldn't seem to make headway north through that terrible chop. The next couple of hours were extremely demoralizing as the wind slowly died without much abatement in the waves. I considered using the motor but was afraid I wouldn't have enough fuel to get back. Finally, when it seemed the wind had died pretty much altogether, I fired the motor -- made it back to Evanston a couple of hours later, with no more than a thimble full of gas left in the tank. I had been out for 10 hours and I was totally, totally wasted. And then after it's all over, and the boat is sleeping quietly in the garage, and you are nursing your sunburn and your cracked lips and your sore muscles between sips of cold beer, and someone asks you "how was it? -- did you have fun?" And the fact is -- you don't know what to say. "fun" isn't exactly the word that would sum up your day. Really only one word will sum it up: "Intense". O -------(\_----------(\_--------- ~ ~ (\_ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Steve McClellan~~M15~#152~~Chicago > Dear Steve: > > You almost got to meet me. I was in Waukegan over the Fourth holiday. When I > am in that area I like to crawl around the yard at Larson Marine. They have > a yellow M17 on the lot that is exactly the same as my M17, except it is > different. I thought about calling to see if you wanted to try a sail last > week, but decided not to so as to not screw up your holiday. In other words, > my wife didn't want me to go. > > For a place like Lake Michigan, there has to be enough wind to keep the > sails full and pulling or the chop will knock you back and the roll will > toss your boom around, spilling your wind. I was out a few weeks ago and > tried to sail back from a raft up in very light wind (5 knots or less and > variable). It would vary from glass smooth to a few cat's paws. In some > cases, I was making one or two knots...when that dropped off to dead calm, > the sails would just go limp and the driftwood was beating me. That was ok > and almost challenging to see what would work until the ski boats showed up > and the left me bouncing in their wakes. All that flogging just puts stress > on the sails and rigging. My old main actually ripped out under similar > conditions during last year's CBR. > > At the other end of the scale, I've been out in 30+ knots with no problem, > double reefed main and storm jib. But that was on a lake with less than a > mile of fetch and 3' to 4' waves. She just stayed on top, didn't heel all > that much and just scooted right along at 5+ knots. The biggest problem with > that if you are single handed is getting out of the cockpit to mess with the > sails. That's when most of my problems start. > > I seem to recall some of the M15 guys on the CBR talking about being out in > 8' seas or worse. Probably much worse if the water is open. But I think that > all depends on your experience level, comfort level and setup. I would also > think that getting back into a harbor on Lake Michigan under those > conditions might test my pucker factor! > > Howard > M17, #278 > "Audasea" > > (Pondering a name change to "Bianca". She is an all white boat). > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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