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Headsail clew attachemnt - flush to the deck or on a pendant above the deck
by r cook 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Is it better to attach the clew of the headsail directly to the shackle at the bow where the foot of the sail is then flush with the deck or put a short pendant on the clew and get the foot of the headsail about at the same level as the foot of the main. I use a 14" pendant and find that I can see better under the headsil. Most of the other boats I've seen though attach the headsail flush with the deck even though the do have room to hoist it higher if the wanted to. This makes me wonder if there is some performance gain to be had by having th head sail lower...Thanks!! Ron Cook M-17 Hull #217 -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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Honda Outboard
by E. James Easton 21 Oct '02

21 Oct '02

Hello everyone, I'm interested in buying a 1990 Honda 7.5 hp outboard with 100 hours, in particularly nice condition. It does have an alternator. Does anyone have any thoughts or comments on this particular motor or the size (too big??). What might this motor be worth on the used market. Also, has anyone wired up the alternator to their battery for charging. Any suggestions, or words of wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Easton _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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M-Boats: M-15 Boomkicker
by Harvey Wilson 20 Oct '02

20 Oct '02

Hi Steve... FWIW, West marine has SS thumbscrews...probably BoatUS and Boaters World as well. Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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M-Boats: M-15 Boomkicker
by Steve R 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

I installed a Boomkicker on my M-15 this year. Sorry, no photos yet but here is one from the Boomkicker site: http://www.boomkicker.com/glstr_16.jpg The photo is a good illustration of the Boomkicker, however, you need a vang, which is not shown. The installation instructions are at: http://www.boomkicker.com/0312in.htm If I use the standard mast carrier, I can not step or unstep the mast with the Boomkicker in place. The bottom of the luff groove slide is about two inches from the base of the mast. This hits the top of the cabin and will not allow the holes in the mast to line up with the base plate. I have to loosen the two screws and move the Boomkicker up to get clearance. In normal use, I move the Boomkicker up before taking the mast down. I bungee the two rods to the mast to keep them from flopping around. The next time we go sailing, after raising the mast, I loosen the two screws and move the Boomkicker back in place. I put a piece of tape on the mast to indicate where to position it. Obviously, I need a Phillips screwdriver on the boat. I also must remember to move the Boomkicker before the admirable pulls the forestay pin. Otherwise, I wind up looking like a Keystone Cop mast held in one hand, while with the other I frantically locate and twirl the screw driver. I hope this disturbing illustration is as good a memory aid for you as it has been for me. I have a homemade mast crutch with a roller that is still in the developmental stage. It is taller than the regular mast crutch, and the Boomkicker works fine with it. No problem getting the bolt in or out with the mast at a steeper angle, so there is no need to move the Boomkicker up and down. A potential winter project is to see if I can find stainless steel thumbscrews and leave the screwdriver behind. I did not use the gooseneck stop for attaching the horizontal line from the sling. I tied it off to the eye on the gooseneck, where the downhaul loops through. There is enough room for both lines. I leave the line and sling tied to the gooseneck. When I install the boom, I move the Boomkicker rods to my left, and lower the gooseneck into the slot. I set the back end of the boom down. Next I fasten the downhaul in place. I push the sling in place over the rods. With my right hand I tilt the boom up, and slide the Boomkicker beneath the boom with my left. It is necessary to slightly bend the Boomkicker to get it under the boom. Finally, I attach the vang and tighten it slightly, so the boom does not bounce out when we drive to the ramp. Take down is basically the opposite, remove the vang, tilt the boom up, swing the Boomkicker to the side, lower the back of the boom, pull the sling off the rods, undo the downhaul, remove the boom, loosen the screws and slide the Boomkicker up, and finally retighten the screws and bungee the Boomkicker rods to the mast. The trickiest part of getting the Boomkicker to work is adjusting the length of that line between the sling and gooseneck. Too short, and you have too much tension in the spring rods. Too long, and the tension is so low the boom sags. I need to find a better method of adjusting the length than by tying and retying knots. It is necessary to occasionally redo the knots as they loosen and the line stretches. I like the Boomkicker, it is more trouble in the parking lot than a topping lift would be, but it is convent on the water. When you factor in that is about $50 more than a topping lift you have to set your own price for convenience. The Boomkicker will be easier to use if you keep you boat on the water than if you trailer. Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: Older M17 Centerboard
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

Jerry, did you get enough interest to justify the production of a new style CB for the M-17? I know a few people responded, but I am not sure if I did. I would like to be put on the list for a CB that will work when I want it to. On the question regarding the CB trunk swelling, what are your thoughts on this...If the new CB does not cure the problem, can we remove some of the inside of the trunk and not compromise the integrity of the boat? Congratulations on another win, this time in Monterrey Bay. You built one hell of a boat, but your sailing abilities are probably the key factor! Tom Woodworth M-17 "Wild Hare"

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RE: M_Boats: Annapolis Sailboat Show
by Harvey Wilson 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

>> How did the P19 compare to the M17?<< Hmmmmm..let me answer that. I looked at a new P-19 (6 yrs ago) when I was looking for a sail boat. The WWP 15 was long in my mind...but decided that this lass with golden locks was higher on my priorities in the late '60's, so the P-15 was put on the back burner for about 28 years. When the last kid left the nest, the Admirable decided it was time to give the O.F. sailing lessons, and as we both enjoyed the school, decided to get our own boat. We looked at many boats...and I narrowed it down to the Precision and Potter lines. Larry Barkhuff sent me a M-17 brochure, and I was interested. I saw a P-19 in the next town, looked at it, sat in it and didn't really like it. I saw the Precisions at a boat show in Tampa, and liked them. Decided on the Precision 18 (or 21 if I found one). A friend sent a Fla. sailboat trader with several P-18 & 21's in it....and a strange looking small pic that turned out to be a M-17!! I set up my itinerary, saw the M-17, and the rest is history<GG> Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: Uses for a bent mast
by Conbert H Benneck 18 Oct '02

18 Oct '02

Fellow M-ers, Thanks for all the good suggestions for putting a "slightly" bent mast to other uses, and for your commiseration. It sure ruins your day - but happening on the day the boat is hauled, sure beats having it happen on the first sail of the season. That was at least one ray of sunshine in the gloom! In case this happens to anyone else - and I fervently hope that it doesn't - here are some suggestions of what to do with the old mast. - Use it as a fishing pole for agressive fish. - Cut in sections: Turn the mast groove upwards and sell as a planter for small plants - Use a section and build a pogo stick. - Use as a flag pole I suggested it might a new toy for my squirrels, but they rejected that idea: the aluminum is too hard to chew: it is too hard to climb: they prefer the trunks of my oak trees; better traction and more user friendly. Connie

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New sails & mast light plug
by E. James Easton 17 Oct '02

17 Oct '02

Hello, Has anyone purchased sails from Cruising Direct? If so would you buy again? Are there any sail makers you'd recommend or recommend against? Also, when stepping my mast I somehow forgot to unplug the mast light, while unscrewing the nut & bolt at the base of the mast. Well, I pulled the wires from the plug while lowering the mast. I have not been able to figure out how to remove the round plastic insert or reconnect the two wires. Has anyone been through this before? Thanks in advance, Jim Easton M17 #338 _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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RE: M_Boats: New sails & mast light plug
by Morris, Giles 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

>Are there any sail makers you'd recommend or recommend against? I've only bought sails once, and am far from an expert on them, but am happy with the main and (furling) genoa that I bought from Mack Sails of Florida for Dolphin. (http://www.macksails.com/) A friend is happy with his sails from Quantum (I forget which loft, but it is in the Chesapeake area. Oxford?) and I was impressed when I visited their Annapolis loft. Giles Morris Arlington VA Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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Farfromonday has a new home
by Bob Nesbitt 16 Oct '02

16 Oct '02

I recently sold my M-17 to a very nice person from Duluth and purchased an M-15 from Lacey Hartje of St. Louis, MO. Lacey was kind enough to bring the M-15, Farfromonday to Beloit, Wisconsin where a friend and I picked it up and brought it home to Minneapolis. The boat is in great shape and we will be ready to sail in the spring. I needed a smaller boat that I could handle myself on our small Minnesota lake. I thought about leaving the Montgomery family, but couldn't bring myself to do it. They are the best boats afloat and I wanted to stay in the group. I will be paying special attention from now on when I read messages concerning your M-15s. Bob Nesbitt Farfromonday 1980 M-15Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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