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Re: M_Boats: Towing weight
by dik lang 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Brian, keep all the goodies and the motor in the truck, keep the towing weight low. It makes a difference in how it all performs on the road. I have a nissan 2wd with 2400cc, it pulls ok, but not enough for passing anything else! Im pulling a montgomery 17 mostly around Vashon Island. The total trailer and boat weight is around 2000lbs. Dik Lang m-17 Sweet Pea >From: "Brian Granowitz" <bgranowitz(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: M_Boats: Towing weight >Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:25:43 -0700 > >I have an M15. > >What's the towing weight of the combined boat, trailer, motor, and >reasonable gear and food for 2 for a weekend? > >I've been borrowing a friends truck to tow. It's time I had my own vehicle >to do this. I want to make sure it has enough pep to pull it over the >mountains outside of Seattle. > >Thanks, > >Brian >Make: Montgomery 15 >Year: 1984 >Name: Piccolo >Port: Kenmore, WA > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: M_Boats: Towing weight
by Conbert H Benneck 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi Brian, I can't give you a weight of an M15 plus trailer, outboard and supplies, but for what it's worth, I haul my M15 with a VW GOLF. Initially I had a VW GTI with the VR6 engine and a manual transmission; later I had a GTI with the 1.8T and an automatic transmission, and my latest - and ultimate tow vehicle is a VW Jetta wagon with the VR6 and an automatic transmission. Years ago I bought a Bolger MICRO, sight-unseen, in Green Bay, WI. My wife and I picked it up from the seller and then drove to Clearwater Florida down I-75. The MICRO weighted about 900 lbs: with equipment say, 1000 lbs. The problem was that the trailer was probably made to haul a mobile home, and weighted about twice what the MICRO did. So, MICRO, plus trailer must have been about 2500 lbs. The VW GOLF - a 4 cylinder machine with a manual transmission at that time - managed to haul the rig through the mountains of Tennessee Florida, and then back to Connecticut via I-95. Yes, I did a lot of shifting, but it worked. I picked up the M15 in panama City, FL using my VW GTI. Once we got used to the rig and our confidence built up, our speed increased too. I was finally cruising at about 70 MPH, and you only knew that you had something in back of you when you looked in the rear view mirror and saw the boat. Since then, I have made trips to Lake Champlain, NY and to Moosehead Lake, ME: the boat filled with equipment; the Bolger NYMPH dinghy on the roof of the car, plus our personal clothing, etc. No strain or pain that I could detect. I find that the VW GOLF / Jetta and the M15 make a great rig. Yes, through the mountains you'll have to downshift to a lower gear; and if you have to do a lot of mountain driving I'd want brakes on the trailer, but it would work. Connie M15 #400 Glastonbury, CT

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Towing weight
by Brian Granowitz 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

I have an M15. What's the towing weight of the combined boat, trailer, motor, and reasonable gear and food for 2 for a weekend? I've been borrowing a friends truck to tow. It's time I had my own vehicle to do this. I want to make sure it has enough pep to pull it over the mountains outside of Seattle. Thanks, Brian Make: Montgomery 15 Year: 1984 Name: Piccolo Port: Kenmore, WA _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Towing weight
by Brian Granowitz 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

I have an M15. What's the towing weight of the combined boat, trailer, motor, and reasonable gear and food for 2 for a weekend? I've been borrowing a friends truck to tow. It's time I had my own vehicle to do this. I want to make sure it has enough pep to pull it over the mountains outside of Seattle. Thanks, Brian Year: 1984 Name: Piccolo Port: Kenmore, WA _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Location of Battery on M15
by Seawitch 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

I was interested in reading the message regarding the location of the battery on M15 but was unable to access it due to the MIME format. Could it be resent in HTML? Thanks ===== Time for a cool change! Sandra __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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Location of Battery on M15
by Seawitch 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

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Re: M_Boats: Location of Battery on M15
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Randy, I have a trolling motor outlet on the transom of my P-15, and an extra trolling plug with exposed ends (one significantly shorter than the other to prevent short circuiting). To this I clip on a 3 stage charger when necessary. The system is simple, yet works very well. Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann" > Hank, > > > > On my M-15, #407, 1988, the battery is a group 24 and is located underneath > the V-Berth. Raising the V-berth cushion there is a plywood board covering > an access hole to the area below the V-berth. The under berth area is > filled with pieces of Styrofoam, except for a battery box that sits just > below the opening. The only difficulty in getting the battery in and out > is, what to do with the V-berth cushion. Also, how to charge the battery > without removing it. For this I am thinking of making a cable the plugs > into the cigarette lighter/DC outlet on the electrical switch panel. Idea > here is to plug the cable into the outlet with the other end connecting to > a charger that is on deck or elsewhere, and trickle charging the battery > through the DC outlet. > > > > Randy Graves > > Post Falls, ID >

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Re: M_Boats: Location of Battery on M15
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

In a message dated 10/9/2002 9:47:45 AM US Mountain Standard Time, RandyG(a)cite.nic.edu writes: > For this I am thinking of making a cable the plugs into the cigarette > lighter/DC outlet on the electrical switch panel. I used this idea for years on my Aquarious 23. I had a weather tight plug in the aft end of the cockpit. I didn't even have to open the hatch to connect the charger. Sandy

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Wire slap in the mast
by Larry Yake 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Another option is to fill your mast with those styrofoam shipping peanuts. They stop the wires from rattling, provide floatation for the mast, and weigh virtually nothing. A "cork" made from a piece of a styrofoam swim noodle keeps it all in there. Larry Yake M17 On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Brian Ripley <brian_ripley(a)yahoo.com> writes: > A simpler method with much less weight aloft is to > put tie wraps around your wires without cutting off > the > excess material; the little tails keep the wires away > from the mast. > > Brian Ripley M-15 Roseville CA > > --- Stanley Winarski <winarski(a)cox.net> wrote: > > Connie, > > > > My condolences for your mast. > > > > I've managed to avoid "doing a job" on may mast over > > the years only > > through good luck and happenstance. > > > > For what it is worth re: wires in the mast: > > > > After I "wired" lights on my mast (made a base out > > of an aluminum door > > kick panel) I was amazed at how much noise that > > little wire made inside > > the mast during a windy night on board. In fact, I > > was so amazed. I > > spent the better part of the night marveling at the > > noise. > > > > When I got home I re-ran the wires through a thin > > walled pvc pipe (much > > lighter than the standard thickness tube) and > > inserted that up the > > mast. That too had some movement inside the mast > > and I wondered if it > > would also be noisy under some conditions. So, in > > keeping with the > > philosophy that if one aspirin is good, two would be > > better, I gilded > > the lilly and slipped foam insulating tubes over the > > pvc pipe. They > > are available in builder supply stores, weigh almost > > nothing, and > > snugged the whole works very nicely inside the mast. > > So far (four > > months), so good. > > > > Stan Winarski > > M-15, #177, Carol II > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > man.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: What Service To Put an Unservicable Mast To?
by Derfsails＠aol.com 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Hi, When my mast met an un-movable object I used one section of it as a mast for our TV antenna, works well and promotes some interesting questions. Fred

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