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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 Sailboat
by bownez＠juno.com 04 Mar '19

04 Mar '19

Great shots Kirby! You are bringing back memories. I've sailed the Apostles many times over the years on chartered boats, my M17, and my M23. A fabulous pristine area for sailors. Watch the weather!!!! Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Sad News For Meghan Markle And Prince Harry track.volutrk.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5c7d324e74341324e326bst04vuc

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Montgomery 17 Sailboat
by kirby 03 Mar '19

03 Mar '19

Montgomery 17 Hull Nr 395 I've been the owner of M-17 #395 for a couple of years. I've sailed it on Minnesota lakes & Lake Superior in Superior, WI and the Apostle Islands near Bayfield WI. I have sailed in a variety of conditions. I've upgraded the original McKibbon sails to creme colored main and 110 jib from National Sail Supply (Rolly Tasker). I'm fortunate to have a distinctive creme colored deck and topsides withforest green hull. Attached, are some of my sailing pictures from Lake Vermilion, MN , Superior, WI, and Bayfield, WI and Apostle Islands. Smooth Sailing, Kirby S. M-17 #395

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Fwd: Cruising World M17
by Dave Scobie 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

Thought folks would enjoy a Montgomery 17 adventure story from the 1980s! Was shared with me by another M17 owner. Thanks also to Marian Blue and Cruising World! Click on this link to download the article (a PDF I uploaded to the MSOGphotosite.com)- https://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=202 :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> FOR SALE! :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4
by Kevin Sandwick 18 Feb '19

18 Feb '19

Montgomery Facebook Page? I did a quick search and could not find a Montgomery Facebook page, Is there a more specific name? Thanks, Kevin Nauti-Cal M-17 #400 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:00 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: Cruising World M17 (Dave Scobie) 2. Re: Cruising World M17 (Dave Scobie) 3. Re: Fwd: Cruising World M17 (Lawrence Winiarski) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:13:47 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Fwd: Cruising World M17 Message-ID: <CAGjBOA5rEahjTuA4XDPRQtNuLMuaaf4cm-RbCurSAaBZST8Mew(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thought folks would enjoy a Montgomery 17 adventure story from the 1980s! Was shared with me by another M17 owner. Thanks also to Marian Blue and Cruising World! Click on this link to download the article (a PDF I uploaded to the MSOGphotosite.com)- https://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=202 :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> FOR SALE! :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:18:54 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cruising World M17 Message-ID: <CAGjBOA7RfzDAKunq521sQuUJR4AD6z_Z5HmTCCDQFpBQmxp=qA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Becky: I've shared the story on the listproc (by hosting the file on the MSOGphotosite.com) and on the Montgomery Facebook page. Things go well living on a boat ... until the money runs out! (ha ha). I'll be back in Port Townsend mid-ish March. Maybe we could have lunch or a coffee. Best and again thanks for sharing the article! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> FOR SALE! :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thought folks would enjoy a Montgomery 17 adventure story from the 1980s! > Was shared with me by another M17 owner. Thanks also to Marian Blue and > Cruising World! > > Click on this link to download the article (a PDF I uploaded to the > MSOGphotosite.com)- > > https://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=202 > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > FOR SALE! > :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com > :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:31:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Cruising World M17 Message-ID: <1504294764.675673.1550449889529(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Great story and lots of good ideas.?? Thanks On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 2:14:56 PM PST, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thought folks would enjoy a Montgomery 17 adventure story from the 1980s! Was shared with me by another M17 owner.? Thanks also to Marian Blue and Cruising World! Click on this link to download the article (a PDF I uploaded to the MSOGphotosite.com)- https://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=202 :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> FOR SALE! :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 -? http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 192, Issue 4 ************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: Monty 12
by Sandman 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Contact Chesapeake Light Craft for plans or a complete kit. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber(a)gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2019 5:48 pm Subject: M_Boats: Monty 12 I have a hankering for another Monty, smaller this time. The 12 looks like fun, and another Lyle /Jerry collaboration. They are hard to find, tho. How could one go about building one in wood? I'd like to give it a try. Jon Barber Montgomery 17 Ol'44

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Monty 12
by Jon Barber 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

I have a hankering for another Monty, smaller this time. The 12 looks like fun, and another Lyle /Jerry collaboration. They are hard to find, tho. How could one go about building one in wood? I'd like to give it a try. Jon Barber Montgomery 17 Ol'44

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Montgomery 15 parts?
by Peter Zimowsky 02 Feb '19

02 Feb '19

Hi: The other day while heading to the reservoir to sail, a pin on my my rear mast crutch cracked. I’m having it welded back into place but it brought concerns about a 30 something year old boat. Metal is going to fatigue. Where do we get Monty 15 replacement parts? Thanks, Pete Winter Sky (Zimowsky) outdoors writer and photographer www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "Be with Tahlequah" Tahlequah, you did this. From the day you lost your baby in the summer of 2018, then your 17-day tour of grief, you've brought the KEY crucial issues to the world to help us save your Orca family.

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Anchoring stowage
by Peter Kick 01 Feb '19

01 Feb '19

Does anybody have any thoughts on foredeck anchor stowage and modification/ improvement for easy fast safe deployment? My M17 has only a 5 dollar nylon cleat that I can move with my hand ( having tightened everything thoroughly). This set up fails to reflect the boat’s intended use. And it makes me nervous! Thanks Pete S/V Bird Girl Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 30, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Peter Kick <peterkick(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Hey Randy, > What was the self steering arrangement he used? Seems to me he said he didn’t have one — but I’d love to know because I want one too! > Thanks > Pete > SV Bird Girl > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Randy Sommerfeld <sommerfeldrandy(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> That’s a pretty awesome book, I read it last month. My next goal is to do the self steering set up that is in the book. >> Randy >> M-17 No Worries >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Steve Trapp >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:52 PM >> To: Peter Zimowsky; For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Post Angeles-Victoria crossing >> >> Peter, >> Read the book, A Little Breeze to the West, about an M-15 sailing from >> San Diego to Hawaii. >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:02 AM >> To: Dave Scobie >> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Post Angeles-Victoria crossing >> >> Wow Dave: >> Incredible info. Thanks. I will be going with a group of sailboats from the >> Southern Idaho Sailing Association as we have done for the past two years in >> August when we launched from Anacortes and looped the SJ islands. >> This year folks want to hit more Canadian harbors and it sounds like fun. >> However, as cautious as I am, I’m leery of the crossing from Port Angeles >> and Victoria. Looks like about 22 miles or so. >> Even though I’ve crossed over from Sucia to Pember without any problems, I >> think this crossing might be out of my ability level. >> I know I don’t give the M15 it’s do, but I seem to always doubt myself. >> Thanks again, appreciate it. >> >> >> Pete Winter Sky >> (Zimowsky) >> >> outdoors writer and photographer >> www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com <http://www.getoutdoorsnorthwest.com/> >> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors >> >> >> "Be with Tahlequah" >> Tahlequah, you did this. From the day you lost your baby in the summer of >> 2018, then your 17-day tour of grief, you've brought the KEY crucial issues >> to the world to help us save your Orca family. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jan 27, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Peter: >>> >>> The things to know about crossing the Juan de Fuca Straits - >>> >>> #1 understand the wind pattern - late spring, summer and early fall >>> lightest winds are morning to early afternoon. wind builds from the west >>> and likely a SCA to gale in the mid-afternoon through nightfall. In >>> general if it is blowing in the morning don't go. some of the worse winds >>> are in the Race Rocks area. In a westerly once north of this area headed >>> the final way to the Victoria Harbour entrance you starting getting into >>> the lee of Vancouver Island. winds are usually lighter east of the >>> 'constriction' between Race Rocks and the WA coast. >>> >>> review forecasts the days prior to see how the weather is cycling and the >>> difference between what was predicted and actually happened. >>> >>> Weather forecasts from NOAA are in three zones for the Strait: west, >>> central and east. the US reports to read/listen are central and east - >>> >>> central - >>> https://marine.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=PZZ131#.XE3J5VVKiUk >>> <https://marine.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=PZZ131#.XE3J5VVKiUk> >>> east - https://marine.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=pzz132#.XE3JfFVKiUk >>> <https://marine.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=pzz132#.XE3JfFVKiUk> >>> >>> >>> the Canadian forecasts use slightly different zone names. East in CN >>> forecasts are the waters north of the NOAA central area - >>> >>> https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=07003 >>> <https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=07003> >>> >>> >>> the Haro Strait CN forecast helps understand what is happening on the NW >>> 'side' of NOAAs East Strait forecast - >>> >>> https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=06100 >>> <https://weather.gc.ca/marine/forecast_e.html?mapID=02&siteID=06100> >>> >>> >>> further reading that assists one understand the wind's behaviors along the >>> entire Salish Sea - >>> >>> 'Taken By the Wind: The Northwest Coast: A Guide to Sailing the Coasts of >>> British Columbia and Southeast Alaska' by Marilyn Johnson ( >>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1532895666/ >>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1532895666/> ) >>> >>> >>> #2 fog: calm winds and warm air means fog. usually this comes up >>> overnight or just as the sun rises. if there is no wind it may never >>> clear. Spring and Fall are the worse fog 'seasons'. >>> >>> #3 wind against current: if there is a strong west wind against the ebb >>> tide the Strait can get UGLY. same can be said for a flood tide against >>> the rare late spring, summer and early fall easterly blow. FYI - August >>> is commonly called FOGust. >>> >>> #4 BIG SHIPS GOING FAST. keep an eye out for these ;-) you can listen to >>> VHF channel 5A as large ships will report. you can also let Vessel >>> Traffic know you are in the area if fog and/or heavy winds. >>> >>> The crossing is doable and has been done, many times, by M15s. During the >>> first run of the Race to Alaska (R2AK 2015) a M15 took part in Sage 1 >>> (Port Townsend to Victoria). The day started winds 20-25kts and seas >>> 2-5'. The dayswas different in the winds moderated - not at all normal. >>> The team crossed with no issues ... and when they arrived i checked their >>> rig: it was way to loose. as it wasn't lost shows you how Jerry >>> overdesinged the rig! >>> >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ >>> <http://www.m17-375.webs.com/> FOR SALE! >>> :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com <https://sv-swallow.com/> >>> :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 >>> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ >>> <https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/> >>> :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ >>> <https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/> >>> :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred >>> <http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:57 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: >>> Hi all: >>> Planning my cruise in the San Juans and Canada for August. Wondering about >>> launching at Port Angeles and crossing over to Victoria in my M15. Been on >>> several cruises in the SJs but never on this larger open water. Any >>> warnings, advice, suggestions. >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> >>> Pete Winter Sky >>> (Zimowsky) >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> >>> <x-msg://7/#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> >> >

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Re: M_Boats: Storm Jib
by Josh ua 30 Jan '19

30 Jan '19

I took my m15 out on a small lake I know well when winds were projected to be 30mph gusts to 45mph-not knots. We left the dock under double reefed main. I had taken nearly everything out of the boat in preparation for possible capsize. That turned out to be a mistake as the boat handles MUCH better with a little ballast. In this lightweight condition we found that we could make no progress upwind under main alone. Probably because i dont know what im doing. We dropped a fishing anchor and led it to the front cleat and hanked on the storm jib. Upside down first then right side up. We were slowly dragging anchor through the process that took maybe 4 minutes. We pulled in the anchor pulled in the main sheet and had an exciting day on and off the wind. Slow going upwind but under control at all times. There were no seas to contend with to speak of so that makes all the difference im sure but we had no trouble hanking-unhanking-and hanking again in what I consider quite a blow.

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Re: M_Boats: Storm jib
by casioqv＠usermail.com 28 Jan '19

28 Jan '19

It works, but the boat still moves a knot or two, and oscillates a bit. It's not as stable as with a backwinded jib. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Knorr" <rustyinafrica(a)yahoo.com> To: "casioqv" <casioqv(a)usermail.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 9:22:51 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Storm jib Thanks, Tyler. I’ve always heard the M-15 won’t heave to under just the main, but you found it to work ok? www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > On Jan 28, 2019, at 8:33 AM, casioqv(a)usermail.com wrote: > > I've hanked on a storm jib in my M15 in 25-30 knots, and it went fine. I found it helpful to first double reef the main, and then get into a hove-to under main alone position, as described in the Pardey's book 'Storm Tactics.' Basically this means the bow 45 degrees to the wind, and the tiller lashed slightly to leeward so the boat stays balanced at this angle to the wind. The boat will heel slightly to the lee side, which gives the stability you need to go to the bow on the windward side. I'm a big guy, but the boat still lists to leeward with my weight all the way over on the windward side under these conditions. I highly recommend a tether and jacklines while doing this. The stainless steel carabiner style hanks that can be used with one hand make it a lot easier also. > > In my opinion, sailing an M15 with the main alone in very strong winds isn't a good idea, because weather helm will make the boat very exhausting to control, and you will be unable to go upwind. Motoring doesn't really work in rough conditions either, since the prop will repeatedly come out of the water unless you get it so low that you risk swamping it. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:34:08 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Storm jib > > Hi all, > > On my last M-15 as well as my recent purchase I have a storm jib. My question is...when you decide you need it, how the heck do you get to it?! The M-15s are precarious enough in calm weather, going forward to bend on a storm jib when it’s blowing like crazy seems not only risky, but downright dangerous. So what do you do when you leave the dock in 5 knots and your genoa, and get stuck in unpredicted 40 knot gusts where you really need that storm jib up to balance the boat? > > Thoughts? > > Rusty > M-15 “Vanilla” > Duckpunt “The Donkey” --

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