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Re: M_Boats: M17 for sale
by bownez＠juno.com 08 Apr '19

08 Apr '19

Hi Listers, A 1980 M17 is on Craig's List in Minneapolis. https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/d/minneapolis-montgomery-17-sail… I have not seen the boat and know nothing about it. FWIW. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy smartfithelp.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cab3e5b943ca3e5b2929st04vuc

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Standing rigging?
by Gerry Lempicki 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

I'm turning into the man of 1000 questions. So I went to Defender Marine last Thursday for their sale. I ordered a couple of replacement buckles with toggle nuts to replace the backstay and headstay ones, as they don't turn well any more, and one had a bend. I received them yesterday, and I got T bolts instead of toggle nuts. Ok, so I called Johnson today to verify that they're as strong as what I had with toggle nuts. No problem there, but in conversation it came up that my standing rigging is 1/8 wire with thimbles and 2 swaged ovals on each end of each cable. Was this standard? Johnson suggested getting rid of it and in fact suggested switching it all over to machine swaged ends because mine are not suitable for standing rigging. What is the consensus here? -Gerry

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Stripper
by Gerry Lempicki 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

Since I don't know the paint history on this boat(and some was peeling), I'm trying SmartStrip to get back to fiberglass. One application took off a green layer, blue layer, and most of red. One more thing application should clean it right up. -Gerry

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Through hull holes?
by Gerry Lempicki 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

As I am stripping paint off this M17, I found a couple through hull holes that have been fiberglassed over and look to be done well. They were up front, so maybe were for depth instruments in the past. In the rear, about 6" forward of the transom, there is a through hull still there. It is capped with pipe plug fittings inside. I don't like the looks of some previous fiberglass work around it, so I am going to remove it and properly repair it. But this made me curious; what would it have been used for on an M17? It's not like one needs cooling water. Do any of you have through hulls in the bottom of a small boat?

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Scaled, sandblasted, and primed today
by Gerry Lempicki 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

-Gerry

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Centerboard
by Gerry Lempicki 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there? -Gerry

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new mast for M17; run halyards inside or out?
by Gerry Lempicki 01 Apr '19

01 Apr '19

Hi all,I am getting a new mast for my Montgomery 17 from Dwyer. One of the options is to use a new single slot masthead with 2 sheaves, which would allow running halyards down inside the mast. Another would be to use the two slot 4 sheave as in the original. Thoughts? Any pros or cons one way or the other?Thanks!-Gerry

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M17 Rigging
by Gerry Lempicki 21 Mar '19

21 Mar '19

OK, I'm learning by leaps and bounds here. I really appreciate the help. It makes more sense now that I know the opening was already lowered. So then the gooseneck would be inserted and raised up a bit in the mast...but where would that line from the gooseneck have been anchored to keep the boom down (resisting the sail and halyard pulling up)? I'll attach a couple more photos to show more.I found what I assume is the mainsheet with two blocks. I'm guessing the larger block with cam cleat attaches to the traveller on the forward cockpit sole, and the single block goes on the eye about midway on the boom. Correct? And how would the jib sheets be run back on the M17? I did find 2 separate single blocks; I'm not sure where they were used. I also have a telescoping forspar; it has what a would call a probe on one end and a clip on the other end. Gee, I'm almost ready to drop the mast again, install the halyards (I found 2), raise the mast again and hoist the sails. Then I can take real measurements for the new mast. Oh, there was also a custom whatsit in a locker (see photo). It's made from a pvc glue in coupling and two jam or V cleats; any idea what this was for?

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Re: M_Boats: M17 whisker pole and headsail tack.
by Dave Scobie 20 Mar '19

20 Mar '19

Gerry. Tack is supposed to be at the bow, not 'up in the air'. This is why the whisker pole angle isn't correct. Off the top of my head the spinnaker eye is about 20" from the bottom of the mast. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 1:31 PM Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > So today we lowered the mast to put in halyards, then raised it again and > tried putting the sails on/up. So far so good. I raised the jib enough so > the foot cleared the pulpit, then checked the fit of the whisker pole. If > it's supposed to work with this sail and if it should be close to > horizontal, that pad eye on the mast should move up to about 40" from the > base. Right now it's 22" up from base. Everything else looks good to me; > we took a lot of measurements so we know where the boom sits and where to > open up the slot for inserting the gooseneck. Next step, order the mast > and get the boat off the trailer to remove the centerboard.

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Re: M_Boats: Jerry Montgomery M17/M17/M23 Rigging
by Dave Scobie 20 Mar '19

20 Mar '19

> Jerry does rigging fabrication. Old information. As of 2016/7 Jerry no longer does rigging. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 9:34 AM Thomas Howe <Thomas(a)thomashoweonline.com> wrote: > This is a good place to go to the source, Jerry does rigging fabrication. > > Thomas Howe >

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