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M23 Swing Keel
by Josh Bloom 13 Nov '16

13 Nov '16

Sailors - I am looking for all the guidance I can get, and pictures would be soooo helpful. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an M23 last season, and I restored it over the winter with my dad which was a lot of work, but in the end, she is a beautiful boat and so much fun to sail. It has been very warm in MN and I am thinking about throwing it in the sling for a day or two at the yard she is located at. This would be on thurs or Friday of this week. Spring time will be very busy and harder to do this at the yard, so I am thinking that now is the time. Wondering if anyone can help with pics and instructions on the keel. She has not been lowered in three years and will not go down. I want to change out and fix whatever is needed and will only have a day or two in the sling. I am mechanical but know nothing about this project. Josh Bloom Principal B.C.R.E. Retail Services | Sales, Leasing and Tenant Representation 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206 St. Paul, MN 55116 T 651 315 7863 | C 651 207 3157 <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> View My Listings<http://www.bloomcommercial.com/index.html> josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> www.bloomcommercial.com [CoStar Award] Bloom Commercial Real Estate CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission and any attachments accompanying it contain confidential information belonging to the sender that may be protected by the client or work product privileges. The information is intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Any unauthorized interception of this transmission is illegal. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then destroy all copies of this transmission.

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Re: M_Boats: M23 keel photos and much much more!
by Dan Farrell 13 Nov '16

13 Nov '16

Beautiful work, Robbin. Wish my CB looked that good! So, if I follow these pictures correctly, you simply jacked the boat up with boat stands to get the keel far enough off the ground so the centerboard could be dropped out? I've seen the same thing done on 17s but thought maybe the 23 was too big for a technique like that. Seeing the CB in the back of the truck puts it in perspective. The cherry picker seems like a very good idea. Robbin Roddewig <robbin.roddewig(a)verizon.net> wrote: >Thanks Josh, > >I did locate the share permission and in fact it was not publicly >sharing. It gave me this link to use for sharing >https://goo.gl/photos/7N9NSiPM5nmTC4Z67 > >It appears to work. The captions that I had for each photo are viewable >if you click on the picture and look at the right of the web page. >Without these comments it is hard to tell the sequence of what I did to >get the stuck board out. Do note that based on what Sean Mulligan >suggested I glassed the joint at the bottom of the keel as Sean (who did >have to replace rusting ballast) had determined that this joint was the >most likely place that the water got into the keel. > >There is lots of fun stuff documented here like barrier coating after >stripping years of paint off the hull, redoing the hull to deck joint (I >have now done both sides) and repairing the interior the rotted from the >leak on the port side (the previous owner had covered all this black rot >with a map pocket that I did not remove for years, nice job PO!). The >interior rebuild is back in full swing this fall as I worked on that >yesterday. Other projects on here are the recore of the cabin top and >reestablishing the non skid with Kiwi grip. Lots of work in six years! > >Please let me know if this works or not. And please ping me if you want >some ideas on the stuck board. I think it more likely that like my >board you simply have rust scale that will not let the board move. It >had mine absolutely frozen and I was using big (and little) sledge >hammers to try and move it. And it still moved fractions of an inch at >a time I hit it down after I got the rod through it that I could beat >on. I also worked a regular hand saw up along each side to try and >scrape some of the scale off. This was not a move that was wise but I >had become quite desperate after a few days of trying things that did >not work like pounding from above. > >A couple more notes, my pivot pin (I think that is the name of the main >pin) was U shaped as shown in the photos and just a bear to get out. >The stop pin was similarly bent. > > >Thanks! > >Robbin > > >On 11/12/2016 4:10 PM, Dan Farrell wrote: >> Doesn't work for me either. Maybe the author forgot to share the thing publicly? >> >> >> Josh Bloom <josh(a)bloomcommercial.com> wrote: >> >>> I can't get link to work can you please email to me? >>> My email is below >>> >>> Thank you sooooo much! >>> >>> Josh Bloom >>> Principal >>> B.C.R.E. >>> Retail Services | Sales, Leasing and >>> Tenant Representation >>> 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> >>> St. Paul, MN 55116<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> >>> T 651 315 7863<tel:651%20315%207863> | C 651 207 3157<tel:651%20207%203157> >>> <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> View My Listings<http://www.bloomcommercial.com/index.html> >>> josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> >>> www.bloomcommercial.com<x-apple-msg-load://8D5A4CE5-4859-4560-A23C-019F595F9D3F/www.bloomcommercial…> > >

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Re: M_Boats: M23 kewl photos
by Dan Farrell 13 Nov '16

13 Nov '16

Doesn't work for me either. Maybe the author forgot to share the thing publicly? Josh Bloom <josh(a)bloomcommercial.com> wrote: >I can't get link to work can you please email to me? >My email is below > >Thank you sooooo much! > > Josh Bloom > Principal > B.C.R.E. > Retail Services | Sales, Leasing and > Tenant Representation > 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> > St. Paul, MN 55116<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> > T 651 315 7863<tel:651%20315%207863> | C 651 207 3157<tel:651%20207%203157> ><mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> View My Listings<http://www.bloomcommercial.com/index.html> > josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> > www.bloomcommercial.com<x-apple-msg-load://8D5A4CE5-4859-4560-A23C-019F595F9D3F/www.bloomcommercial…>

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Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster
by brad kurlancheek 12 Nov '16

12 Nov '16

Connie, that is one of the most painful boat stories I've read in some time. Thanks for sharing. - Brad On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: My latest disaster (Conbert Benneck) > 2. Re: My latest disaster (Thomas Buzzi) > 3. Montgomery Photo Site (Thomas Buzzi) > 4. Re: Montgomery Photo Site (Dave Scobie) > 5. Re: Montgomery Photo Site (Thomas Buzzi) > 6. M23 Swing Keel (Josh Bloom) > 7. Re: M23 Swing Keel (Dave Scobie) > 8. Re: M23 Swing Keel (Timothy JarviMD) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 13:47:15 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster > Message-ID: <7a131ad8-5493-32ae-e254-1b81685dc61a(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 11/6/2016 12:03 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > Tom, > > Add to that having a friend help you get the M15 out of the water by > driving your car, with the mast up. > I expected him to pull us out of the water and stop the car so that I > could lower the mast. Instead, he decided to keep driving to his boat > yard, about 150 feet away, and next door to the park where the launch > ramp was located. > > Only, he forgot that there was a huge old oak tree with a very large > limb crossing the road that was about 15 feet above the road. > > As he started heading down the road, I was frantically yelling for him > to stop, but he didn't hear me with the windows closed. > Then came the oak limb...... The forestay hit it pulling the mast > forward; then the oak limb hit the mast. The mast buckled. That caused > he driver of my car to finally stop, as the car stopped. > > He got out.... Said, sorry; .... and helped me lower the bent mast to > the deck. > > I had to get a new mast and then put all the bits and pieces back in > place to make a working mast again. > > The moral of the story: if you are asking someone to help drive the car > to get your boat out of the water, make very certain that you explain to > him exactly where he has to go; /_*and where he has to park the car and > the boat as you leave the launch ramp*_/; otherwise it can get > expensive, and involve a lot of totally unnecessary repair work. > > Connie > > > > Yes, I graduated to the big stuff years ago. Dismasting, rudder ripped > out > > of the transom, falling overboard (as I dismasted the boat), almost > getting > > shot on a Fort Lauderdale boat ramp because I could not get my sailboat > > centered on the trailer, sailing into a palmtree and almost dismasting > > again. Going to the expense of replacing a wire/rope halyard on my first > > Montgomery and then cutting them both down to 20 feet since that is how > > tall the mast was, making a boat trailer in my welding shop that was too > > wide for the axle I had bought but used it anyway only to have the > trailer > > frame wear a hole in the side of a trailer tire on the New Jersey TPKE. > Ah > > yes, and I still like sailing. > > > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:24 PM, GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats < > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > >> 'Badges of Honor - aka Learning Curve. > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 11/5/2016 7:28:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > >> drifkind(a)acm.org writes: > >> > >> > >>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Sorry about the trouble, Stan. The way your halyard jammed is one for > >> the > >>> books. But then, things happen in bunches on boats. Ripped out > rudders, > >>> dismasting it is all part of the "game?. > >> A lot of the stories I read?groundings. dismastings, scuttlings, > whatever? > >> are pretty intimidating. I figure I can start with _little_ disasters > and > >> work my way up to big ones. > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 15:56:35 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWKdqAQDk=S0PnFWqmb0S1uOC+vPJ9yffOe2_JMhWhb3g@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > If he was over sixty asking him to stop once he got to the top of the ramp > still might not have done any good.? > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On 11/6/2016 12:03 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > > Tom, > > > > Add to that having a friend help you get the M15 out of the water by > > driving your car, with the mast up. > > I expected him to pull us out of the water and stop the car so that I > > could lower the mast. Instead, he decided to keep driving to his boat > > yard, about 150 feet away, and next door to the park where the launch > ramp > > was located. > > > > Only, he forgot that there was a huge old oak tree with a very large limb > > crossing the road that was about 15 feet above the road. > > > > As he started heading down the road, I was frantically yelling for him to > > stop, but he didn't hear me with the windows closed. > > Then came the oak limb...... The forestay hit it pulling the mast > > forward; then the oak limb hit the mast. The mast buckled. That caused > he > > driver of my car to finally stop, as the car stopped. > > > > He got out.... Said, sorry; .... and helped me lower the bent mast to > the > > deck. > > > > I had to get a new mast and then put all the bits and pieces back in > place > > to make a working mast again. > > > > The moral of the story: if you are asking someone to help drive the car > to > > get your boat out of the water, make very certain that you explain to him > > exactly where he has to go; /_*and where he has to park the car and the > > boat as you leave the launch ramp*_/; otherwise it can get expensive, and > > involve a lot of totally unnecessary repair work. > > > > Connie > > > > > > Yes, I graduated to the big stuff years ago. Dismasting, rudder ripped > out > >> of the transom, falling overboard (as I dismasted the boat), almost > >> getting > >> shot on a Fort Lauderdale boat ramp because I could not get my sailboat > >> centered on the trailer, sailing into a palmtree and almost dismasting > >> again. Going to the expense of replacing a wire/rope halyard on my first > >> Montgomery and then cutting them both down to 20 feet since that is how > >> tall the mast was, making a boat trailer in my welding shop that was too > >> wide for the axle I had bought but used it anyway only to have the > trailer > >> frame wear a hole in the side of a trailer tire on the New Jersey TPKE. > Ah > >> yes, and I still like sailing. > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:24 PM, GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats < > >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> > >> 'Badges of Honor - aka Learning Curve. > >>> > >>> > >>> In a message dated 11/5/2016 7:28:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > >>> drifkind(a)acm.org writes: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > >>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Sorry about the trouble, Stan. The way your halyard jammed is one for > >>>> > >>> the > >>> > >>>> books. But then, things happen in bunches on boats. Ripped out > >>>> rudders, > >>>> dismasting it is all part of the "game?. > >>>> > >>> A lot of the stories I read?groundings. dismastings, scuttlings, > >>> whatever? > >>> are pretty intimidating. I figure I can start with _little_ disasters > >>> and > >>> work my way up to big ones. > >>> > >>> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:07:12 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWSesBo_SNQLP0XA3Ai=rz_tfNXYJpTnSMtBAnaE9tpgQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to > access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles to > contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user name > but no go with that. > > Fair winds, > Tom B > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:11:05 -0700 > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site > Message-ID: > <CAGjBOA65=Dh=QFmxgaqNCGd+fZv7NhqPRv-BYCwGnQ7+63kicw@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You can't register to the photosite (yet). > > An account will be made for you. > > Give me a few days to out things together. > > Thanks for the interest Tom. > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Nov 6, 2016 3:07 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to > > access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles > to > > contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user > name > > but no go with that. > > > > Fair winds, > > Tom B > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:35:56 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAW2gVOqVe-beh9OU+gxgH38QJ=xh=_GnVGYhHfqMhpkvg@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You are always a great help, Dave. Thanks! > Tom B > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You can't register to the photosite (yet). > > > > An account will be made for you. > > > > Give me a few days to out things together. > > > > Thanks for the interest Tom. > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > > > On Nov 6, 2016 3:07 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place > to > > > access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles > > to > > > contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user > > name > > > but no go with that. > > > > > > Fair winds, > > > Tom B > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 15:09:12 +0000 > From: Josh Bloom <josh(a)bloomcommercial.com> > To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Cc: Tim Bloom <tim(a)bloomcommercial.com> > Subject: M_Boats: M23 Swing Keel > Message-ID: > <DM2PR03MB399DDA606C66B29C5DE1478D4A70@DM2PR03MB399. > namprd03.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sailors - I am looking for all the guidance I can get, and pictures would > be soooo helpful. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an M23 last > season, and I restored it over the winter with my dad which was a lot of > work, but in the end, she is a beautiful boat and so much fun to sail. > > It has been very warm in MN and I am thinking about throwing it in the > sling for a day or two at the yard she is located at. This would be on > thurs or Friday of this week. Spring time will be very busy and harder to > do this at the yard, so I am thinking that now is the time. > > Wondering if anyone can help with pics and instructions on the keel. She > has not been lowered in three years and will not go down. I want to change > out and fix whatever is needed and will only have a day or two in the > sling. I am mechanical but know nothing about this project. > > > Josh Bloom > Principal > B.C.R.E. > Retail Services | Sales, Leasing and Tenant Representation > 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206 > St. Paul, MN 55116 > T 651 315 7863 | C 651 207 3157 > <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> View My Listings<http://www. > bloomcommercial.com/index.html> > josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> > www.bloomcommercial.com > > [CoStar Award] > Bloom Commercial Real Estate > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission and any attachments > accompanying it contain confidential information belonging to the sender > that may be protected by the client or work product privileges. The > information is intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you > are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance > on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Any > unauthorized interception of this transmission is illegal. If you have > received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply > e-mail, and then destroy all copies of this transmission. > >

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M23 kewl photos
by Josh Bloom 12 Nov '16

12 Nov '16

I can't get link to work can you please email to me? My email is below Thank you sooooo much! Josh Bloom Principal B.C.R.E. Retail Services | Sales, Leasing and Tenant Representation 790 Cleveland Avenue South | Suite 206<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> St. Paul, MN 55116<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0> T 651 315 7863<tel:651%20315%207863> | C 651 207 3157<tel:651%20207%203157> <mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> View My Listings<http://www.bloomcommercial.com/index.html> josh(a)bloomcommercial.com<mailto:josh@bloomcommercial.com> www.bloomcommercial.com<x-apple-msg-load://8D5A4CE5-4859-4560-A23C-019F595F9D3F/www.bloomcommercial…>

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My latest disaster
by David Rifkind 08 Nov '16

08 Nov '16

An ill-considered attempt to sail yesterday on Lake Pleasant in significant wind didn't go too well. The outboard died at a nicely chosen moment, and at almost the same moment the main halyard jammed halfway up. We ended up blown onto the boat ramp broadside-to. Much fun followed. Not a lot of damage if you don't count third-degree skinned knees, but my mahogany rudder is now toothpicks. The halyard jammed when the rope-wire splice slipped under the lower shroud anchor and caught on the clevis pin.

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Montgomery Photo Site
by Thomas Buzzi 06 Nov '16

06 Nov '16

Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles to contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user name but no go with that. Fair winds, Tom B

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Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 06 Nov '16

06 Nov '16

'Badges of Honor - aka Learning Curve. In a message dated 11/5/2016 7:28:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, drifkind(a)acm.org writes: > On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry about the trouble, Stan. The way your halyard jammed is one for the > books. But then, things happen in bunches on boats. Ripped out rudders, > dismasting it is all part of the "game”. A lot of the stories I read—groundings. dismastings, scuttlings, whatever— are pretty intimidating. I figure I can start with _little_ disasters and work my way up to big ones.

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Re: M_Boats: Updates
by Dave Scobie 05 Nov '16

05 Nov '16

Thomas. The photosite allows folks to provide boat photos, details on projects and summaries if their trip s and adventures. :: Dave Scobie On Nov 5, 2016 10:13 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Dave, Does that mean we can upload photos and details of what was done and how?!? Thanks, Tom B, Monty 17 AS-IS On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tom and Dan. > > I'll forward your contact info over to the photosite administrator for > account access so you upload your boat info. > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Nov 5, 2016 7:04 AM, "Dan Farrell" <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > > > I've always wanted to lend a hand with that effort. I manage a lot of > web > > applications professionally, and though I'm not much of a designer, I > might > > be able to push the project over the finish line. The site could use > some > > work :). But I've never really known who to talk to our how to help. > > > > Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Anybody know if the phase 2 of the Montgomery Boat Owners website has > been > > >completed so we as individuals can upload pictures and how-to > information > > >about our boats?? > > >

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Re: M_Boats: Updates
by Dan Farrell 05 Nov '16

05 Nov '16

I've always wanted to lend a hand with that effort. I manage a lot of web applications professionally, and though I'm not much of a designer, I might be able to push the project over the finish line. The site could use some work :). But I've never really known who to talk to our how to help. Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Anybody know if the phase 2 of the Montgomery Boat Owners website has been >completed so we as individuals can upload pictures and how-to information >about our boats??

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