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Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Nov '16

17 Nov '16

Hi Stan, Thanks for your input, this is a technique that needs to be experimented with to see what works best. Like sailing in general.....you don't get it until you do it, over and over. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times Smart Trends http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582dd4a54a1354a462cbst01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 17 Nov '16

17 Nov '16

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Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Nov '16

17 Nov '16

I have a book about self steering from Gerard Dijkstra, It does go over steering using the sails...... Bones ____________________________________________________________ How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) gundrymd.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582dd51f27ba551e62d4st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Nov '16

17 Nov '16

Gary, I need to spend more time around you so I can learn your language...... Bones ____________________________________________________________ How To Remove Eye Bags & Lip Lines Fast (Watch) Womans Weekly http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582dd3edcc94753ed3c8bst03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Nov '16

17 Nov '16

Jerry, Connie, Thank you for your gifted insight. 1/4 inch it is for the tubing. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 'Stunning' Truth About Neuropathy Nerve Pain neuropathytreatmentgroup.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582c86407266d64040cdst02vuc

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 165, Issue 11 - Sheet to Tiller Sailing
by brad kurlancheek 16 Nov '16

16 Nov '16

Bones, Andrew Evans' "Single Handed Sailing" avail on amazon as a kindle edition, also has a lengthy discussion on various set-ups for sheet to tiller. Good luck. Been meaning to give it a go myself. - Brad On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sheet to tiller steering (bownez(a)juno.com) > 2. M23 for sale (bownez(a)juno.com) > 3. Re: Sheet to tiller steering (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 4. Re: Sheet to tiller steering (Conbert Benneck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:02:07 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering > Message-ID: <20161115.100207.4334.0(a)webmail10.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hello Listers, > > I plan on experimenting with self steering for the M17 this spring. I know > the basic set-up, and I understand it requires a lot of testing, adjusting, > positioning. etc. > Todd Mills was the true expert on this, I don't know if he stills monitors > the site. > > Anyway, I know surgical tubing is the way to go for the spring tension, > but, I do not know the size to buy. > Anyone played with this and can clue me as to what to order? > > Thanks, > > Mr. Bones > ____________________________________________________________ > How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) > gundrymd.com > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b31f0b06e631f04877st03vuc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:05:15 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: M23 for sale > Message-ID: <20161115.100515.4334.1(a)webmail10.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Listers, > > Just a subtle reminder that my M23 "Dhana" is still up for sale. > Interested parties can E-mail me off list for details. > > bownez(a)juno.com > > Later, > > Mr. Bones > Mpls > ____________________________________________________________ > 1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines In Seconds > Daily Tiply > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b326a64719326a56a8st03vuc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:26:29 -0800 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering > Message-ID: <7B78B50E7CCA405DAAE12684176882D8@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain > > I haven't done this for about 30 years, but thinner tubing is the way to > go; > I'd guess 1/4". It works very well on either of the M boats down to about > a > beam reach. Dave Scobie might have something to add. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bownez(a)juno.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:02 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering > > Hello Listers, > > I plan on experimenting with self steering for the M17 this spring. I know > the basic set-up, and I understand it requires a lot of testing, > adjusting, > positioning. etc. > Todd Mills was the true expert on this, I don't know if he stills monitors > the site. > > Anyway, I know surgical tubing is the way to go for the spring tension, > but, > I do not know the size to buy. > Anyone played with this and can clue me as to what to order? > > Thanks, > > Mr. Bones > ____________________________________________________________ > How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) > gundrymd.com > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b31f0b06e631f04877st03vuc > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 17602 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan > http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:45:13 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sheet to tiller steering > Message-ID: <02a4e62f-a7a5-9f60-22d0-a441bd5bc39c(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 11/15/2016 10:02 AM, bownez(a)juno.com wrote: > > Hi Bones, > > You can buy various diameters if surgical tubing at a medical supply house. > > 1/4" diameter is probably a good size to start with. You can always > double it up (two strands); or go to three strands if you find that you > need a bit more strength. > > The "bible" I used when playing the sheet-to-tiller game was John > Letchers book on self steering. John used this technique when sailing > his boat from Hawaii back to the West Coast. (available from AMAZON) > > I had built a wind vane self steering system for our T-L 29, but when I > used it the cockpit was criss-crossed with lines and the Admirable had > difficulty lying down on a cockpit cushion and improving her suntan. > So, the next thing to try was sheet to till steering. > > It worked very nicely; eliminated all the lines crossing the cockpit, > resulting in a happy Admirable, so I stayed with that for years. > > The basic principle is: you pull a bight in the jib / genoa sheet. > Attach a small line there; run it across the cockpit to a block and back > to the tiller. > The surgical tubing attaches to the other side of the cockpit and is a > loop is dropped over the end of the tiller. > > Now you have to get on your course; attach the line to the tiller; and > balance the pull of the line to the sheet bight (dependent on wind > strength) with the stretched surgical tubing. > > If your boat now changes heading, the load on the sheet changes. The > surgical tubing now pulls the tiller which causes the boat to head up. > As the boat gets back on course the sheet pressure builds; stretching > the surgical tubing and pulling the tiller. Eventually a balance of > forces is achieved and you are back on course. > > When we sailed from Watch Hill, RI to Block Island (about 24 NM) I'd set > up my sheet to tiller steering, and it would hold a good course to Block > Island. > > Happy playing with a new toy. > > Connie > > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > I plan on experimenting with self steering for the M17 this spring. I > know the basic set-up, and I understand it requires a lot of testing, > adjusting, positioning. etc. > > Todd Mills was the true expert on this, I don't know if he stills > monitors the site. > > > > Anyway, I know surgical tubing is the way to go for the spring tension, > but, I do not know the size to buy. > > Anyone played with this and can clue me as to what to order? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mr. Bones > > ____________________________________________________________ > > How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) > > gundrymd.com > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b31f0b06e631f04877st03vuc > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 165, Issue 11 > ************************************************* >

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Sheet to tiller steering
by bownez＠juno.com 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

Hello Listers, I plan on experimenting with self steering for the M17 this spring. I know the basic set-up, and I understand it requires a lot of testing, adjusting, positioning. etc. Todd Mills was the true expert on this, I don't know if he stills monitors the site. Anyway, I know surgical tubing is the way to go for the spring tension, but, I do not know the size to buy. Anyone played with this and can clue me as to what to order? Thanks, Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day) gundrymd.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b31f0b06e631f04877st03vuc

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Removing rusted trailer lug nuts
by Conbert Benneck 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

Fascinating! Physics applied. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wish I had known about this years ago. Some on this list are still rebuilding old cars, or you encounter equipment with “frozen” lug nuts, or you know someone who can use this trick. This is one of the slickest (no pun intended) ways to free a frozen nut I’ve ever seen. It is a short video. LiveLeak.com - Removing rusted nuts > using a candle and a lighter <http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba2_1475277076> I won’t admit how many studs I have twisted off over the years. I will say, this trick would have saved me a LOT of aggravation AND money! CB

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M23 for sale
by bownez＠juno.com 15 Nov '16

15 Nov '16

Listers, Just a subtle reminder that my M23 "Dhana" is still up for sale. Interested parties can E-mail me off list for details. bownez(a)juno.com Later, Mr. Bones Mpls ____________________________________________________________ 1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags & Lip Lines In Seconds Daily Tiply http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/582b326a64719326a56a8st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M23 keel photos and much much more!
by Robbin Roddewig 13 Nov '16

13 Nov '16

Thanks Dan I had the yard use a boat lift to get the boat on stands. All this was done at a boat yard. I borrowed an engine lift to get it in the truck and suspended for fairing and painting after soda blasting the board. Coating with barrier coat was immediate after the blasting. The cb is very heavy and dangerous (300 lbs or more) so be careful with it and you if you are dealing with it! Cheers Robbin Sent from Robbin's phone > On Nov 13, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > > Beautiful work, Robbin. Wish my CB looked that good! > > So, if I follow these pictures correctly, you simply jacked the boat up with boat stands to get the keel far enough off the ground so the centerboard could be dropped out? I've seen the same thing done on 17s but thought maybe the 23 was too big for a technique like that. > > Seeing the CB in the back of the truck puts it in perspective. The cherry picker seems like a very good idea. > > > > > > Robbin Roddewig <robbin.roddewig(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> Thanks Josh, >> >> I did locate the share permission and in fact it was not publicly >> sharing. It gave me this link to use for sharing >> https://goo.gl/photos/7N9NSiPM5nmTC4Z67 >> >> It appears to work. The captions that I had for each photo are viewable >> if you click on the picture and look at the right of the web page. >> Without these comments it is hard to tell the sequence of what I did to >> get the stuck board out. Do note that based on what Sean Mulligan >> suggested I glassed the joint at the bottom of the keel as Sean (who did >> have to replace rusting ballast) had determined that this joint was the >> most likely place that the water got into the keel. >> >> There is lots of fun stuff documented here like barrier coating after >> stripping years of paint off the hull, redoing the hull to deck joint (I >> have now done both sides) and repairing the interior the rotted from the >> leak on the port side (the previous owner had covered all this black rot >> with a map pocket that I did not remove for years, nice job PO!). The >> interior rebuild is back in full swing this fall as I worked on that >> yesterday. Other projects on here are the recore of the cabin top and >> reestablishing the non skid with Kiwi grip. Lots of work in six years! >> >> Please let me know if this works or not. And please ping me if you want >> some ideas on the stuck board. I think it more likely that like my >> board you simply have rust scale that will not let the board move. It >> had mine absolutely frozen and I was using big (and little) sledge >> hammers to try and move it. And it still moved fractions of an inch at >> a time I hit it down after I got the rod through it that I could beat >> on. I also worked a regular hand saw up along each side to try and >> scrape

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