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Re: M_Boats: our Cerulea M17 #32 is pictured in the Yager sail and canvas ad in this months issue of 48 north magazine.
by Bruce Ward 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

John we are located in this pcture at 54 5.617 latitude 125 36.410 longitude Tchesinkute Lake north central British Columbia. I had Don Yager build these and my M23's sails as well. Sent from my iPad

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Seattle Boat Show...
by Jazzy 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

I'm off to the show in a bit. Anyone else? Jazz

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M17 traveler location
by John Schinnerer 07 Feb '16

07 Feb '16

A question for those who know the history & reasoning... At some point the traveler on the M17 was moved from just aft of the companionway to further back in the cockpit (not sure how far back, can anyone give a measurement? Half way? Two-thirds? Just in front of tiller? Or...?). Why was it moved, and what are the pros and cons of each location? Mine is a '74 so the original was just behind companionway. But some previous owner of my M17 installed a big wide windward sheeting traveler, mounted on top of the cockpit seats (forward, approximately above where the original was). It is in the way in multiple ways - blocks regular use of seat space, lounging use of seat space, companionway access. I am going to reduce the width and remount on cockpit floor. Before I do that I'd like to hear why I should keep it forward where the original traveler was, or, why I should move it back where the newer M17 travelers are. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 155, Issue 44
by doug blackwell 06 Feb '16

06 Feb '16

i installed a full size ritchie compass under the main sheet cleat, on our m15 Spitfire, it saves the comfortable backrest on the bulkhead On 2016-01-29, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Where does this wire end? (Jazzy) > 2. Re: forum or email (Rick Davies) > 3. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (John Schinnerer) > 4. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Timothy JarviMD) > 5. Re: Where does this wire end? (swwheatley(a)comcast.net) > 6. Re: Where does this wire end? (Thomas Buzzi) > 7. Re: Where does this wire end? (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 8. Re: forum or email (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) > 9. Re: Where does this wire end? (Thomas Buzzi) > 10. Re: forum or email (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) > 11. Re: forum or email (Thomas Howe) > 12. Re: forum or email (Thomas Buzzi) > > From: Jazzy <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > Date: 28 January, 2016 6:16:08 PM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 > > Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the > "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little > bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the > other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green > feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for > the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! > > Jazz > > > > > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > Date: 28 January, 2016 6:24:14 PM PST > To: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > I've enjoyed and learned from this group ever since I became a Montgomery > owner almost nine years ago. Too old to change now. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Thursday, January 28, 2016, David Grah via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> I think Larry Yake and Sal Glesser make good points and would be fine if >> we stick with what we have and that works in the absence of a compelling >> reason to change. >> I wonder if there would be a way to continue this as the arena for the >> group but figure out a way to supplement it with something else where >> photos are important. Maybe there is a way not to loose this great thing we >> have going, get better photo posting, and maybe enhanced search capability? >> Keith thanks again for making this group work. I find it incredibly >> valuable. >> >> David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky >> > > > > > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Date: 28 January, 2016 10:31:20 PM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > On 01/28/2016 04:55 AM, Timothy JarviMD wrote: >> I agree with the Yahoo site. It works well for the NorSea owners group (me >> included). The Montgomery Owners site exists there already. It was >> previously set up by Sean Mulligan (sp?) from Lake Havasu, AZ. It is a pain >> that all the communication goes through the yahoo mail server. That means >> it's practically the only mail I get from yahoo and I have to check it >> separately from my gmail. > > You do not need to use a yahoo e-mail address for a yahoo group. You do need to create a yahoo ID to log into Yahoo services, but then you can add any other e-mail accounts to your profile and use any one of them to get mail from a given group. > > I am a member of about half a dozen yahoo groups but don't use my yahoo login/e-mail address for any of them, I use this address. > > The yahoo group says it's only for an owner registry and nothing else. So far that appears true - there are no messages, and photos are not enabled. > > I think it would be good to enable photos on the yahoo group so there would be someplace to put pics and albums of pics. A link to those relevant to a post here could be included in the post. > > Forums, like this mailman list, don't have any individual photo or photo album capability. Pics are specific to a forum post so one has to go searching through the forum. > There can be a photo/album repository such as a yahoo group and also this list. > Can be both-and, doesn't have to be either-or. > > I'm not clear what the MSOG site update will be, let's see what happens. Can you say more - what platform are you upgrading to, will it be self-subscribe & self-manage one's own content? > > I have been on the 'net since back when it was a small, mostly friendly, completely non-commercial virtual space and the world wide web was not quite invented yet. Some things have changed a lot, and some have not at all...;-) > > cheers, > John S. > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > > From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Date: 29 January, 2016 4:30:16 AM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Thanks John, > > Yes I have been on the net since around 1995 or so too and there has been a > lot of changes. I already have a yahoo ID sign on etc. I did it so long ago > that the default email in there is my often-not-used yahoo mail account. > Gotta change it but it does keep my main email somewhat uncluttered I guess > (point/counter point SNL sketch comedy). Boy can they get outta > hand...numbers of emails I mean. > > I have been on the Nor'Sea group for many years over there and is sure is > nice to have photos/photo albums. It made my full restoration on the NS 27 > easier. The Monty FD restoration was more difficult without this type > of resource for sure. > > I know the yahoo owners site is not currently active and looks like it > never was more than a list but it is there and could be used for the > purposes we're looking for. > > Just some thoughts for you guys who are using this forum more regularly. > Sounds like you're aware of that pre-established yahoo group already. I'll > wait to see what shakes loose for a place for current and future photos! > > Best to all, > Tim J > > Nor'Sea 27 "Dark Star" > Monty 17 Flush Deck "66" > Nor'Sea pram dinghy > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:31 AM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > >> On 01/28/2016 04:55 AM, Timothy JarviMD wrote: >> >>> I agree with the Yahoo site. It works well for the NorSea owners group (me >>> included). The Montgomery Owners site exists there already. It was >>> previously set up by Sean Mulligan (sp?) from Lake Havasu, AZ. It is a >>> pain >>> that all the communication goes through the yahoo mail server. That means >>> it's practically the only mail I get from yahoo and I have to check it >>> separately from my gmail. >>> >> >> You do not need to use a yahoo e-mail address for a yahoo group. You do >> need to create a yahoo ID to log into Yahoo services, but then you can add >> any other e-mail accounts to your profile and use any one of them to get >> mail from a given group. >> >> I am a member of about half a dozen yahoo groups but don't use my yahoo >> login/e-mail address for any of them, I use this address. >> >> The yahoo group says it's only for an owner registry and nothing else. So >> far that appears true - there are no messages, and photos are not enabled. >> >> I think it would be good to enable photos on the yahoo group so there >> would be someplace to put pics and albums of pics. A link to those relevant >> to a post here could be included in the post. >> >> Forums, like this mailman list, don't have any individual photo or photo >> album capability. Pics are specific to a forum post so one has to go >> searching through the forum. >> There can be a photo/album repository such as a yahoo group and also this >> list. >> Can be both-and, doesn't have to be either-or. >> >> I'm not clear what the MSOG site update will be, let's see what happens. >> Can you say more - what platform are you upgrading to, will it be >> self-subscribe & self-manage one's own content? >> >> I have been on the 'net since back when it was a small, mostly friendly, >> completely non-commercial virtual space and the world wide web was not >> quite invented yet. Some things have changed a lot, and some have not at >> all...;-) >> >> cheers, >> John S. >> >> >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> -------------------------------------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> >> > > > > > From: swwheatley(a)comcast.net > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > Date: 29 January, 2016 8:23:26 AM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 > > Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the > "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little > bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the > other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green > feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for > the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! > > Jazz > > > > > > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:15:58 AM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Jazzy, > Does your boat have the galley on the port side just aft of the v-berth? My > 1977 model does. While digging around for wires to use that are embedded in > the fiberglass layup at the factory I found several that were bunched > underneath the galley. I had to lie on my back, folded double on the cabin > floor to peer up and under the sink when I discovered them. All my wires > led to a small busbar on the port side aft of the sink accessible from the > cockpit portside locker. Not a handy set up. I have since moved all the > wiring to the more conventional layout of on the bulkhead at the foot of > the v-berth. Good luck with your hunting. > I assume you have one of those auto circuit tracers which come with a > battery in the handle, a wire at one end with an alligator clip and a sharp > probe at the other end. It is a continuity tester and is useful for > figuring out which wire popping out of where goes to what. > Tom B > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 >> >> Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the >> "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little >> bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the >> other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green >> feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for >> the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! >> >> Jazz >> > > > > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:24:10 AM PST > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded wires. > > I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing aftermarket deck hardware. > > -----Original Message----- From: swwheatley(a)comcast.net > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > > My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was used for an anchor light. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 > > Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the > "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little > bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the > other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green > feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for > the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! > > Jazz > > > > > > > > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:31:25 AM PST > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > Go Dave ! > > my vote - No Yahoo - but who cares - > > > (BTW I really don't care what FB or any other web based 'gang' finds out > about my life EXCEPT my critical #'s - WGAF ?? ) > > > In a message dated 1/28/2016 5:52:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com writes: > > Sage Marine can host the forum. No charge. The software is vbulletin. > Have an Mboat section currently - > > http://www.sagemarine.us/forum/forumdisplay.php?14-Montgomery-Dinks-15-17-an > d-23 > > I can add moderators to the Mboat section. Create new subforums (ie, for > each boat type). The software will host photos and document attachments > (videos are still best done on YouTube and linked to a post in the forum). > > A moderator system would be good so if there is a problem with a post/user > a group can make decisions instead of an individual (I've done such a thing > with forums I've moderated for 10+ years). > > :: Dave Scobie > > > > > > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:36:08 AM PST > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Thanks, Jerry, for that last statement. I used the existing wires wherever > possible but now if they don't work I will realize I may have drilled > through one while mounting additional hardware. > Any ideas on how to string new wires and attaching them to the fiberglass > overhead and avoiding having them look like phone wires strung from pole to > pole? > Tom B > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > >> Prior to re-tooling in 81 we laminated the wire in with frabbergrass to >> several locations, including the bow and stern lights. After retooling we >> ran all wires from the switch panel, up the mast compression post and put a >> tricolor at the masthead and the cabin light right next to the post. >> Worked out great and much easier to work on. If I was messing around with >> an old boat, I'd just copy the new setup and forget about the embedded >> wires. >> >> I know that a few of the embedded wires got drilled thru when installing >> aftermarket deck hardware. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: swwheatley(a)comcast.net >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:23 AM >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? >> >> My M17 (1976) had a wire like that (embedded in the cabin overhead). If I >> recall correctly, it ran forward to the aft edge of the forward hatch, >> followed that edge a bit and then emerged to be connected to a thru-deck >> connector in the vicinity of the mast step. In my case, I believe it was >> used for an anchor light. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Jazzy" <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16:08 PM >> Subject: M_Boats: Where does this wire end? >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/he3d0wj5fm3ayno/20160128_174720.jpg?dl=0 >> >> Your looking from the v berth out towards the companion way at the >> "ceiling" over the sink...the blue and green wire that feeds that little >> bus bar goes into the fiberglass there. I can't for the life of me find the >> other end. The little bus bar is unpowered at the moment and the blue/green >> feeds it. On a positive note...stern light is now working from panel for >> the first time in forever like the nav light! Whoohooo! >> >> Jazz >> >> >> >> > > > > > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:37:13 AM PST > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > +1..............centralized is good. > > > In a message dated 1/28/2016 9:01:11 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > larryyake(a)gmail.com writes: > > Sounds like almost everyone who has contributed to this conversation is all > for moving. However, there are a great many more of us out there that > haven't been heard from. Maybe because we are happy with what we have. I, > for one, do not like the forum / sub forum type of list. Divide a group > into pieces and you lose the group. There are already other Montgomery > sites out there, with the Trailer Sailor group, the Facebook group, and > even the one on the Sage site... and for the most part you have different > people in each group. We are already getting splintered into factions. > Dividing us further, by boat size, topic, etc. might serve those who are > only interested in a special topic for the moment, but in my opinion does > not serve us well as a body of sailors. > > Yes, I've been called a dinosaur before, because I prefer to stay with > things that work and the simpler the better. That is also why I sail a > Montgomery. > > Larry Yake > M17 CornDog > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This sounds quick and easy, Dave. Thanks. >> < >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… >>> >> This >> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >> www.avast.com >> < >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… >>> >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sage Marine can host the forum. No charge. The software is vbulletin. >>> Have an Mboat section currently - >>> >>> >>> >> > http://www.sagemarine.us/forum/forumdisplay.php?14-Montgomery-Dinks-15-17-a… >>> >>> I can add moderators to the Mboat section. Create new subforums (ie, > for >>> each boat type). The software will host photos and document attachments >>> (videos are still best done on YouTube and linked to a post in the >> forum). >>> >>> A moderator system would be good so if there is a problem with a >> post/user >>> a group can make decisions instead of an individual (I've done such a >> thing >>> with forums I've moderated for 10+ years). >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> >> > > > > > > From: Thomas Howe <Thomas(a)thomashoweonline.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > Date: 29 January, 2016 9:50:35 AM PST > To: "GILASAILR(a)aol.com" <GILASAILR(a)aol.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > I Like the idea keeping the listserv, I've enjoyed it for many years, through 2 M-17s. I don't mind the addition of a photosite, but I don't want it to detract from this community. My $.02. > > Thomas Howe > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:37 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > > +1..............centralized is good. > > > In a message dated 1/28/2016 9:01:11 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, larryyake(a)gmail.com writes: > > Sounds like almost everyone who has contributed to this conversation is all for moving. However, there are a great many more of us out there that haven't been heard from. Maybe because we are happy with what we have. I, for one, do not like the forum / sub forum type of list. Divide a group into pieces and you lose the group. There are already other Montgomery sites out there, with the Trailer Sailor group, the Facebook group, and even the one on the Sage site... and for the most part you have different people in each group. We are already getting splintered into factions. > Dividing us further, by boat size, topic, etc. might serve those who are only interested in a special topic for the moment, but in my opinion does not serve us well as a body of sailors. > > Yes, I've been called a dinosaur before, because I prefer to stay with things that work and the simpler the better. That is also why I sail a Montgomery. > > Larry Yake > M17 CornDog > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> This sounds quick and easy, Dave. Thanks. >> < >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… >>> >> This >> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. >> www.avast.com >> < >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… >>> >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sage Marine can host the forum. No charge. The software is vbulletin. >>> Have an Mboat section currently - >>> >>> >>> >> > http://www.sagemarine.us/forum/forumdisplay.php?14-Montgomery-Dinks-15-17-a… >>> >>> I can add moderators to the Mboat section. Create new subforums >>> (ie, > for >>> each boat type). The software will host photos and document >>> attachments (videos are still best done on YouTube and linked to a >>> post in the >> forum). >>> >>> A moderator system would be good so if there is a problem with a >> post/user >>> a group can make decisions instead of an individual (I've done such >>> a >> thing >>> with forums I've moderated for 10+ years). >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> >> > > > > > > > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email > Date: 29 January, 2016 10:57:56 AM PST > To: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > That is concisely what we need, David. > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:33 PM, David Grah via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> I think Larry Yake and Sal Glesser make good points and would be fine if >> we stick with what we have and that works in the absence of a compelling >> reason to change. >> I wonder if there would be a way to continue this as the arena for the >> group but figure out a way to supplement it with something else where >> photos are important. Maybe there is a way not to loose this great thing we >> have going, get better photo posting, and maybe enhanced search capability? >> Keith thanks again for making this group work. I find it incredibly >> valuable. >> >> David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: stern light mounting
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 06 Feb '16

06 Feb '16

Excellent! In a message dated 2/5/2016 2:49:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com writes: On my 17, "AS-IS" I am using some 3/4 inch "kingboard" plastic to replace the fragile teak hatch slides. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 1:59 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind(a)acm.org> wrote: > > > > On Feb 5, 2016, at 11:59 AM, GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > Made the wedge base for my stern light from aluminum - part of the > > de-wooding of the exterior. > > My ears just perked up. Did you get rid of all the exterior wood? I'd like > to hear about that. > >

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by Ferdinand Johns 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

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Re: M_Boats: stern light mounting
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

John, Made the wedge base for my stern light from aluminum - part of the de-wooding of the exterior. Not hard to do - plastic would work well too. Good Luck GO In a message dated 2/4/2016 8:42:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, john(a)eco-living.net writes: On 02/04/2016 09:09 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > ... Also very handy for dealing with the aft running lite or when > adding wiring for an auto helm. Speaking of stern light - my M17 has the standard Perko dome style light installed on the downward slope of the port side coaming where it drops down to the transom. But it was just mounted flat on the slope, meaning it's tilted quite steeply. The solid part of the dome blocks a lot of the light astern (problematic, for a stern light!). Some of the pictures shared recently about other things (like rudders) included a view of same light in same place, but with a nice wood wedge under the light so it sits level with respect to the horizon. For those who have something like that for their stern light - was it something you bought, or did you make it or have it made, one-off? I want to level my light in same way so wondering if there's something ready-made or I'll need to make it. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Additional floatation...
by Jazzy 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

I understand the benefits of additional floatation, but El Nino is crammed packed with it and it takes up alot of room. Is it really necessary? What do you all have? https://www.dropbox.com/s/5eie4bberviskob/20160202_145711.jpg?dl=0 Jazz On Feb 3, 2016 3:35 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Does this drain get a screen or cap of some kind? I see it's threaded as > if... > https://www.dropbox.com/s/vtnf7z48lia529k/20160202_152613.jpg?dl=0 > > Jazz >

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Re: M_Boats: What do you find works as to a compass?
by Dave Scobie 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

great compass for little boats is the Ritchie Explorer 57.2 - https://www.ritchienavigation.com/research-compasses/compass-by-series/expl… have one on my M17. installed many on Sage 17s (three of the next four S17s will have this compass). install on the cabin wall port of starboard of the companionway. i can share pictures if folks interested in a visual presentation. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ... What do you find works as to a compass? > Tom > > >

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Boat Available for 2017 WICR - crewed
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '16

05 Feb '16

Good Day WrinkleBoaters, I would like to make my crewed boat available to someone that would REALLY like to race a WrinkleBoat at WICR for the 2017 event but may not have a boat or??? 'Tiny Purple Fishes' - a Montgomery 17t is available to race (crewed by yours truly) at the 2017 WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta. The boat will be registered for the event, race prepped, launched/retrieved and finger foods including selected (appropriate) beverages provided. Helmsperson need only bring their personal PFD and day bag - (I am unable to provide lodging at this time - another story - but shuttle to and from the Lake from local hotel will be provided) HERE IS THE CAVEAT: I am looking for an 'up and coming' or 'wannabe' young sail racer or an elderly person (a Geezer - that thinks they have 'one more good race' in them) and will make the boat and event available to them. Yeah - I am being a little selective here - but bear with me. When I was young and entering the sport, a boat dealer 'loaned' me a brand new dinghy to race in the Yacht Club Junior Program for one whole year !! That kind act helped me stay in the sport and grow to love sail boat racing - time to pass along another opportunity, in at least a small way. In the past we have operated a Sailing Access Program for challenged persons, lent a hand to folks who needed assistance to sail/row for any number of reasons - ( I crew for "geezers"... hell...I need crew myself NOW! !) I will need help sailing MY boat into my golden years and will crew for anyone here that needs a hand to help them sail - nobody said getting old was going to be 'fun' - I crewed for JM in Monterey last year and he is OLD...and we were half fast. If you know of a 'kid' that would benefit - PLEASE see what we can do to help them be able to race an ugly old FAST boat (it is slow compared to a 49'er). I no longer have a marine facility to operate from, SO my opportunities to do this type of activity are fewer and farther between... send me an email if you know of someone who may be interested - "The Big Honkin' Trophy" could be theirs ! ! Have Fun, Go Sailing! PLEASE help me find a KID that wants to race!! or a Geezer..... GO M-17t sail #354 'Tiny Purple Fishes' Team Geezer Racing '....Old and In the Way...but..' * If I don't get a 'driver' for 2017 - I will sail the boat in PHRF - it will NOT compete in the WrinkleBoat Fleet for 2017. (One less boat in the Fleet! -bummer dudes and dudettes! let's find a good candidate!)

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