March 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Montys in the east?
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Hey Theo, Sean here. Just thought I'd tell ya that I'm from Palmyra NJ originally.....(don't spread it around or I'll get the "you from jersey?" routine!) It's right across the Palmyra/Tacony bridge from Philly. Haven't been there in ......um......about 36 years, though! I do remember liking the Jersey Shore though. My uncle had a house on Barnegat Bay. If you get the chance to go over there you should. I remember it being pretty cool. Hope things are going well for ya there. Will you be getting the 23 moved there eventually? S **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusye…)

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Re: M_Boats: tenders
by bownez＠juno.com 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi Joe, The smaller inflatable kayaks are shorter than my K-1 model, so I would imagine with less wetted surface they would paddle easier and be a tad more nimble. The other kayaks I have paddled are the hard shell fiberglass/plastic models which track far better than the inflatables. I do like my K-1 for the room it offers my long legs and ability to carry some gear, plus, I can deflate her and stuff it in the cockpit. I have towed her for short distances, but Bonita would prefer to frolic through the water without a leash on! On another note, I use a foot pump with the K-1, and I can pump her up in the M17 cockpit in 5 minutes. I'd love to own a Seagull outboard, they are classic. Bye from Bones ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJCNnwyijVQv4FvaUNfwv1i…

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british seagull
by IdaSailor Marine 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

On the subject of Seagull outboards, I have a good used silver seagull for sale, it is the 6hp version with reverse, the highest horsepower only model with reverse that was produced, that I'm aware of. It is a long-shaft model and has rewind-start (as opposed to the early models that you wrapped the rope around to start). In good running condition, last used 18 months ago, $450, includes original owner's manual. fair winds, -Joel -- Joel Santarone General Manager IdaSailor Marine Inc. www.idasailor.com 866-400-2204 toll free 208-375-2204 shop sailboats(a)idasailor.com

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Re: M_Boats: Sails & Kayak tenders
by Michael Ray Wisely 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hello all, Just wanted to weigh in on the sail debate. I have to agree with Jim P. about the sails, although I just got a used 130 from a M 17 owner who upgraded to roller furling and I have to say that it has allowed me to do some winter sailing on the San Francisco bay that I would have otherwise decided against because of relatively light winds. I will probably only be able to use it in the late fall thru winter here in SF, but I'm glad I have it. I would get one with a window in it or have one put in though. My one reservation on a 130 is that it creates a big blind spot that I can't get comfortable with. I like to relax on reaches and never feel like I know what's on the other side the sail. On Kayaks, my wife Wendy and I bought tracking inflatables from a company called advanced elements. They are really high quality, fast, and track well. They have military spec valves, a waterproof nylon covering and come in single and tandem sizes. They are a bit pricey, but worth it if you like to explore. They also have a few budget lines and I believe West Marine sells a couple of them under their name. When I was looking to buy a kayak I went out to their development factory in Concord, CA and was impressed with what they were doing and have been happy with the purchase. Check them out here: http://www.advancedelements.com/kayaks.html. Can't wait for warmer weather, although some of the winter sailing has been fun. Michael Ray Molly M M17 #383 SF Bay

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Check out History - British Seagull Outboard Motors
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

_Click here: History - British Seagull Outboard Motors_ (http://www.britishseagull.co.uk/history.php) I thought they were out of business - Manufacturing of new motors that is. Sheridan appears to continue making some parts. GO **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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motors and props
by larrypegg＠aol.com 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

How about props??? I have a 5 hp Nissan and was wondering how to size a prop.? I know that the one that is on there is not the one that would work best for a 5 knot sail boat. At your service Larry Pegg 208 249 0538

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Fwd: British Seagulls
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Maybe this will help that last mis-post- M.O. Marine & Co. Inc. Kirkland WA 98033 800-9-SEAGULL ask for Michael Oswald 425-828-7824 They also carry King Dick Hand Tools.. for you hardcore BSers out there. GO ____________________________________ From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com Reply-to: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: 3/12/2009 11:22:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time Subj: Re: M_Boats: British Seagulls Try these folks for BS info - when I sold boats I used them - excellent service fair prices and very knowledgeable folk -NFIW their BS manual is SUPERB! They know what they are talking about! In a message dated 3/12/2009 2:08:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net writes: Hi Ron, The Seagull is total marine reliability. You can do a total overhaul of a Seagull engine in the cockpit of your boat with your on-board tools and all you need are a few Whitworth wrenches and 3/8th" Whitworth sockets to do the job. Remember it is a British made engine; so the nuts and bolts used in the engine are made to British Whitworth Standards, and your normal U.S. SAE sockets and wrenches either won't fit on a bolt head or nut because they are too tight, or the next larger size is too loose, and you will round off the corners of the nuts and bolts. Whitworth wrenches and sockets are available at any good automotive tool supplier. Mine were from Snap On Tools, and came to the Seagull via my MG, and two Austin-Healeys. MAC Tool Company probably has them too, and it is possible that even SEARS might have them. As I dimly recall, there is a button on the top of the carburetor float bowl that you have to push down until fuel comes out the top of the cover. This is the first step in the starting procedure, and insures that you have enough fuel in the float bowl to start the engine. Then you close the choke, wind the starter rope around the flywheel; advance the throttle a bit and, ...pull, ....and with some experience, it should start on the second or third pull. When I was in Singapore, all the bum boats that ferry crewmen to and from their anchored freighters were powered by Seagull engines. Since the Singapore harbor anchorage area was very large, these bum boats traveled lots of miles each day. The off-duty crewmen came to town and bought TVs, radios, refrigerators, washing machines, clothes, and whatever else they needed, then loaded it all back in the bum boats and were ferried out to their ship. Connie Ronnie Keeler wrote: > Bones, > > > > I just happen to know where there is a late model, 5hp, Silver Century Plus (with clutch) Seagull in good condition. It was Griselda's origonal auxillary motor and is sitting in the corner of my brother's garage. He has offered to give it to me if I just come and get it. Let me know if you are interested. > > > > Ron (whitebeard) > > M17 #14, Griselda > > Lake Livingston, Texas > > > > > > > > >> From: bownez(a)juno.com >> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:48:33 +0000 >> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: tenders >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> The smaller inflatable kayaks are shorter than my K-1 model, so I would imagine with less wetted surface they would paddle easier and be a tad more nimble. The other kayaks I have paddled are the hard shell fiberglass/plastic models which track far better than the inflatables. >> I do like my K-1 for the room it offers my long legs and ability to carry some gear, plus, I can deflate her and stuff it in the cockpit. I have towed her for short distances, but Bonita would prefer to frolic through the water without a leash on! >> On another note, I use a foot pump with the K-1, and I can pump her up in the M17 cockpit in 5 minutes. >> >> I'd love to own a Seagull outboard, they are classic. >> >> Bye from Bones >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJCNnwyijVQv4FvaUNfwv1i… tqfBV02cMp0NP1eEzlqpCkgK0/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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Water Storage
by James Poulakis 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

For those of you that are tired of discovering your fresh water supply has leaked out of the container you bought at the camping supply store: LC industries is selling military-spec five-gallon plastic jerrycans direct for $15.84. These are the incredibly rugged water containers that our troops rely on while stationed in the sand countries. They come in high fashion hues of Olive Drab and Desert Sand (although there are rumors of Nato Blue). The same jerrycan made by Scepter sells for around $30. Shipping is free if you buy over $50 worth of stuff. But the best part is that LC industries goes out of their way to hire the blind. http://www.buylci.com/browse.php Jim Poulakis M-17 "Spirit"

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Re: M_Boats: whitworth
by bownez＠juno.com 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hello Fred, Connie, GO, Joe, Ronnie and Seagull nuts, Wow, a thread has been started! (play on words). The Seagull does look like a fascinating little motor. The torque banter is also intriguing. I have seen some vintage outboard motors at shows here in Minnesota, but, I have never actually seen a Seagull in person. The concept of the motor is great, no frills, overbuilt, easy to service. I must admit, I do have a bit of an issue with old 2-strokes, the oil slick behind boats should really come to an end. I am presently using 4 stroke motors on both of my M-boats. There must be thousands of 2-stroke outboards on fishing boats here in Mn, seeing 16 ft boats with old Johnson and Evinrudes is as common as the pickup trucks on the highway. I used a 1966 Johnson 5hp on my M17 when I first got her. Back to Whitworth. I am more than familiar with this as I own a 1965 Triumph Thunderbird motorcycle which is all Whitworth. I have US, Metric, and Whitworth tools in the tool chest. It's not only the bolt and nut size but the thread pitch as well, (thank you Fred). Why have one standard when we can have multiple! Great posts fellas, keep 'em coming. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Hit it out of the park with a new bat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNfqGISca2EFF19smNXKY6k3U…

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sail inventory
by Tom Jenkins 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hello all, I am wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on sail inventory for my 2004 M17. All I inherited from the previous owner is a heavy weather jib with an area of about 55 sq. ft. (85%), and a set of reef points. Being rather old and chastened by harsh experiences, I intend to get a 23 sq. ft. storm jib, but I feel the need for a lighter-air animal as well. The good folks at Elliott/Pattison tell me that the "standard" jib on this boat would have been a 110%, 75 sq. ft. model. I wonder if anyone has used one of these "original equipment" sails (or the equivalent), and if it has proved to be a good all-around tool. Sorry if I am plowing tilled ground, but if this was discussed recently I wasn't paying attention. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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