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by kdocter＠bellsouth.net 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Has anyone successfully stained a sail (on purpose) and got a good result? I ordered some sail wash last fall that never showed up. Guess I'll look again. Any votes on which I should purchase? How do I get my interior looking new again? I tried the suggestion of "Barkeeper's Friend" from Wal-Mart. Good, but not sparkling white like SCRED's interior pics. Kendall kdocter(a)bellsouth.net

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Re: M_Boats: I admit it, I'd love a Montgomery 7-11
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

MSOG Photo site - brochure -drawing was added 'post production'. GO In a message dated 3/9/2009 4:54:19 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, davidcpatterson(a)msn.com writes: David, What is wrong with a M-7-11 in lieu of the Fatty Knees? I believe most 7-11's are a bit less expensive and easier to locate, you have two boats that are certainly 'cousins' in shape and characteristics. Mine is a rowing demon, almost fun to take out and row around - makes a good fishing boat too! GO Gary, I admit it, I'd love a 7-11. Somewhere I recall a Lyle Hess drawing showing a 7-ll style boat on the foredeck of an M17. Maybe I just dreamed it. Has anyone seen that profile drawing? David _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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Re: M_Boats: Old fashioned British dinghy towing (quotes)
by Larry E Yake 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Speaking of stern drag painters, the biggest problem I've had with towing a hard shell kayak is in following seas. It just loves to surf those waves and then peel off to one side or the other, just to be yanked back in line by the tow line. I experimented with a using an old wheelbarrow tire as a drogue behind the kayak. That really straightened her out, and made her behave, but the problem came when I no longer wanted all that drag back there. Getting the kayak alongside and then trying to reach the stern to grab the "drogue" line proved to be very awkward. I've resorted to bringing the bow of the kayak right up under one of the stern cleats and tying her off there when she starts her surfing tricks. Larry ____________________________________________________________ Feel like a winner with great prices on a huge selection of trophies. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTHK1DV8JIY9QkLLqE707rwUZ8…

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Re: M_Boats: Old fashioned British dinghy towing (quotes)
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

David, What is wrong with a M-7-11 in lieu of the Fatty Knees? I believe most 7-11's are a bit less expensive and easier to locate, you have two boats that are certainly 'cousins' in shape and characteristics. Mine is a rowing demon, almost fun to take out and row around - makes a good fishing boat too! GO In a message dated 3/9/2009 10:56:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, davidcpatterson(a)msn.com writes: I'm set up with a West Marine inflatable micro-dinghy for this season, and hope to figure out whether it can be towed at all without taking to the air like a kite, or filling with water. I was re-reading Maurice Griffiths' "Magic of the Swatchways" 1932 and found this: "Where's the stern drag painter?" yelled the mate from under her sou'wester. My heart sank. "Coiled up neatly on the floor of the dinghy." When we go to sea, my wife and I, with a dinghy in tow, we always (Always? Well, nearly always) bring a long painter aboard from the stern of the dinghy, which is kept slack until it is required to be cast overboard to steady the little boat. On this occasion I had forgotten, and left the drag painter in the bottom of the dinghy. (p.154) While the mate held an electric torch, I lay on the side-deck and hauled in the dinghy. The precious painter had got washed under the after-thwart in a nice tangle! A boathook at last freed it, and in a few minutes it was trailing astern. Then I eased the dingy off on its 10-fathom bass painter until it was swallowed up in the night, and although we ran through some of the biggest and steepest breaking seas I have ever seen, the dinghy gave no further trouble. P.155) ...Now, while I have no idea what a "bass painter" is, the technique is probably sound, if sailing the English Channel, and free of nearby power boats. I do wish I had a little Fatty Knees to struggle with towing. I'd try everything to get it right. David _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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I admit it, I'd love a Montgomery 7-11
by David C. Patterson 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

David, What is wrong with a M-7-11 in lieu of the Fatty Knees? I believe most 7-11's are a bit less expensive and easier to locate, you have two boats that are certainly 'cousins' in shape and characteristics. Mine is a rowing demon, almost fun to take out and row around - makes a good fishing boat too! GO Gary, I admit it, I'd love a 7-11. Somewhere I recall a Lyle Hess drawing showing a 7-ll style boat on the foredeck of an M17. Maybe I just dreamed it. Has anyone seen that profile drawing? David

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towing a dinghy with a dagger board slot
by Flickasf＠aol.com 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Not only do you need a plug in the dagger board slot, but ideally it should go all the way to the bottom of the boat, like a dagger board that has been cut off as it meets the bottom of the vessel. This way the dinghy tow better because there is less turbulence. I recommend carry a separate bilge pump as well so that it can be bailed out easier. Bert Felton M 15, Zephyr ************** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002)

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Re: M_Boats: tenders
by Larry E Yake 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Tom, For most of my cruising, I tow a small sea kayak. I enjoy exploring the anchorages, coves, and islands, and a kayak tows very easily. If I have two people on boat, an inflatable two man kayak works well. A rechargeable 12V. pump inflates and deflates it in a couple minutes and it is easy to store on board. Doesn't paddle as well as a hard shell kayak, of course, but is still a good option. Larry On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:17:41 -0700 "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk(a)gte.net> writes: > Hi all, > I imagine that you who do overnighters drag along some sort of > dinghy to access shore, so I would appreciate your conveying your > experiences as to what type of two-person craft a Montgomery 17 can > pull comfortably under various sailing conditions. > Thanks, > Tom Jenkins > M17 Scintilla > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > ____________________________________________________________ Save on Digital Photography Serivces and Hardware. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmTmg3kdXl9FM3SMfAA17oA…

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tenders
by Rick Langer 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

A bunch of the East Coast Cruisers use single inflatable kayaks made by Stearns and West Marine. They inflate and deflate quickly for storage down below and are a good choice for fishing, exploring or just getting to shore. However entering and exiting from both an anchored boat and the shore is an acquired skill, but not impossible. Even with a rechargeable power inflator that we all use, which is very fast, I get tired of putting the kayak away every day, so I tend to leave it inflated and tow it. In lower winds and motoring a conventional tow works fine, but as winds build I lift the bow up to the stern of the tow boat with just the skeg in the water. I've never had the dink fill with water, but have had it flip over when towing at a distance in high winds. At the last NC cruise Bones used a nice inflatable open double kayak. I don't recall who made it, but it seemed well built and more than adequate for two people. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird

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Sojournen for sale
by Steve and Diana Parsons 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi Montgomery Folks, I've come to the conclusion that it is time to sell Sojournen, our 1981 Montgomery 15. The hull number is 159. She is a clean little boat, always covered or garaged when on the trailer. The sails are in good condition, including a new 150% genoa that has only been used on a couple of outings. The cushions are original, and in great shape. I can offer the boat with either a Johnson 4hp, short shaft, that has forward and neutral, or with a Honda 2hp long shaft. I do not have digital photos of the boat at this time, but could get them quickly if anyone is interested. I am asking $4600 with the Johnson, and $5200 with the Honda. We are in the Portland, Oregon area. Kind Regards, Steve

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tenders
by Tom Jenkins 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

Hi all, I imagine that you who do overnighters drag along some sort of dinghy to access shore, so I would appreciate your conveying your experiences as to what type of two-person craft a Montgomery 17 can pull comfortably under various sailing conditions. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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