November 2008 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

antifouling bottom wax and fresh water?
by EinkaufR43＠aol.com 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

I'll be slipping my clean bottomed M-15 for some of next season on the improved but not pristine Saginaw River, near the mouth of the Saginaw Bay. That's Lake Huron to non-Great Lakes folks. My boat has no bottom paint, and I'm willing to expend some effort to keep it that way. If only to preserve my options for a while. . Something should be better than nothing. The supplier ads make it sound like they're made with hi-tech chemicals, but I'm forming the opinion they are pretty much just thick Canadian approved wax . Having studied up a bit, mostly at TrailerSailor, I find mixed reviews leading me to hold hopeful, but still somewhat minimal expectations of these two products: Aurora VS721 Bottom Coat, and Easy On Bottom Wax. Does anyone have fresh water experience with, or preference for, either of these products, or an alternative they'd like to share? I'm currently inclined to try the VS721, and have located a nearby dealer. It seems West may have Easy On. I'm following the awning/boom tent discussions, and plan to deploy something come spring. Finally, a thank you to Bill for his efforts! Ron Stanton, near Saginaw M-15 #249 **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?red… p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

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Photo Site Closes December 15, 2008
by Bill Lamica 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Hi All, The Photo Site (www.MSOGPhotoSite.com) will close December 15, 2008. Please take the time to download all the photos and PDF brochures right away. With economic times being what they are, costs are up and donations are down. Thanks for all the past support with photos and dollars. (Hey... this is just another page in the MSOG history files - it's been fun) Bill

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Top Gun
by Flickasf＠aol.com 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Top Gun is made from a high count polyester duck for outstanding tensile and tear strength. It is also breathable. If you pull up <www.sailrite.com>, you can find more information about it. The Sailrite company is a great source of marine sewing supplies and provides excellent advice. It is also easy to work with because you do not have to hem the edges; they don't unravel after cutting. Bert Zephyr, M 15,#365 ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?red… 00000001)

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Re: M_Boats: 1982 Montgomery 15 #219 For Sale
by bownez＠juno.com 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Bob, Wow, clean boat, great price! Someone is going to score. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Security Camera for your small business. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1urMgGfBz2cckGI6oiX3kOdeX…

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boom tent suggestion
by Flickasf＠aol.com 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

I have made boom tents for various of my boats over the years. I have a suggestion: To get more room under the tent while keeping every thing as simple as possible, have at least one batten pocket sew in athwart with one end left open. When used as a boom tent, insert the batten, one that is fairly robust, and it will form an arch giving you more room under the tent. Use a totally enclosed sleeve and then sew it to the inside of the cover. I use Top Gun for the sleeve and for any areas that may chafe. Use Sunbrella for the cover itself. Bert Zephyr, #365 ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?red… 001)

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Montgomery 17
by John Merrell 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Greetings, We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 MK II. Since Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's difficult to view on of these fine boats. With that said, we're soon to be retired and want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement activities. Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30, we have some sailing experience. We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to obtain information from M17 owners. One of our first questions is does the cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights on the hook? How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is located? How long and wide are the berths? Without opening ports, is there enough ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea? What about the steel centerboard; is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it working properly? We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's on the market. Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over. So we are hoping we can find some help through this avenue. Early thanks for any help you can provide. Sincerely, John and Joy

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Re: M_Boats: Photo Site Closes December 15, 2008
by Larry E Yake 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Sounds like you're ready to move on, Bill, but I have to ask. Is there anything we can do to save it? Larry On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:18:20 -0800 "Bill Lamica" <billamicasr(a)gmail.com> writes: > Hi All, > > The Photo Site (www.MSOGPhotoSite.com) will close December 15, > 2008. > > Please take the time to download all the photos and PDF brochures > right > away. > > With economic times being what they are, costs are up and donations > are > down. > > Thanks for all the past support with photos and dollars. > > (Hey... this is just another page in the MSOG history files - it's > been fun) > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ____________________________________________________________ Looking for a romantic getaway? Click now for amazing cruise deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2if5CY1YQrNmMNRgVRnALxhJB…

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attaching to mast and boom
by Flickasf＠aol.com 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Be sure to isolate the stainless fittings including anything other than aluminum when doing installations on your mast or boom. You will have corrosion problems down the road if you do not. Many products are available including silicon. Bert Zephyr, M 15, 365 ************** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?red… http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Photo Site Closes December 15, 2008
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Hey Bill, Thank you for all the great photos, info, and your time with this great site. I'll miss it. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Looking for a romantic getaway? Click now for amazing cruise deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2if4zxhqM0KQ9RanKxiYolBl7…

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Re: M_Boats: Loctite Blue on the boom
by Blake Reimer 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Myself, I am a big fan of STAINLESS STEEL pop rivets - the regular aluminum ones are prone to failure due to oxidation - especially in salt water. Stainless is a little harder to install (and drill out!) but very tenacious. Make sure you size the length of the rivet properly so that the shank of the "nail" extends about 1/4" beyond the back side of the boom thickness. If you are using a cheap, lightweight rivet gun, you risk breaking a handle, so be careful. Blake Reimer M-15 IOTA

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