November 2008 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Main halyard winch??
by JDavies104＠aol.com 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

When hoisting the main, I set it a few inches below the masthead so that the top batten doesn't catch on the backstay, so it needs no particular tension. I adjust the luff tension by pulling down on the boom when making the downhaul fast. No need for a halyard winch. Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt… olidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

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T shirt update
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Ok...after a lot of monkeying around with different designs for the front pocket we decided that we will just shrink the logo in its entirety and place it on the pocket. Due to the length/width limitations of printing on the pocket, just putting the abstract boat artwork wasn't looking right. So, the artwork should be finalized this week and the silk screens burnt by the beginning of next week. I am on duty for the next 48 hours so I won't be able to get anything else done 'till Monday or Tuesday. I am expecting the prices to be just about identical to the Monty t-shirts we did, but let me confirm that on Monday. I will post prices for each item hopefully by Tuesday and then we'll start a two week ordering period. At the end of two weeks I'll order all the items I have received prepaid orders for. They will ship as soon as I get them. This is exactly the same way we did the last two t-shirt/sweatshirt orders. One extra item that we'll offer this time around is a "girly" style t-shirt. I'll post a picture of it when we list prices for the items. Tell your Monty friends!!! Here's the link to the artwork: _http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=40530412&cr=1_ (http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=40530412&cr=1) Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Removing M17 Galley
by bownez＠juno.com 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hello Dan and Jo, I cannot remember the idea of changing the galley into a seat/berth has ever been discussed before and I've been on the list forever and have all of the old M-boat newsletters. I have the galley model and it works well for me because I mainly single-hand my M17. It seems to me that used M17's are getting more difficult to locate. You could certainly keep looking for the 3.5 berth model, depending upon your time frame. Thinking about changing the berth model, you will need to cut out the sink-shelf-storage assembly, then construct a plywood frame to tie into the stringers for support. Using wood would be easier than glass, in my mind, then paint the entire frame and bunk with epoxy paint. The interior of my M23 was built without a drop in glass liner, and the berths are all wood. The two big questions in my mind are is the galley a structural member, and how adept are you at hand tools and woodworking? Do you have the time and desire to modify a boat? Actually, it sounds to me like an easier job than rebuilding the foredeck of my M17 to remove the saturated balsa core! (I wouldn't wish to do that again). Good luck. Bones in Mpls watching snow flurries _____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3oGdf5f29VBpTU9UC450yFZcw…

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radios
by larrypegg＠aol.com 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

How about some guidance on radios for the San Juan adventure?? Under $300.00 and Hand held.? I have a decent GPS?? Also what charts and where to get them??? thanks in advance At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55 208 249 0538

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Re: M_Boats: radios
by Larry E Yake 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Larry P., I'll get a recommended gear list out to the San Juan group soon. Larry Y. On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:14:51 -0500 larrypegg(a)aol.com writes: > > How about some guidance on radios for the San Juan adventure?? > Under $300.00 and Hand held.? I have a decent GPS?? Also what charts > and where to get them??? thanks in advance > > > > > > At your service > > Larry Pegg > Pilgrim M-17 #55 > > 208 249 0538 > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nHrljeFZx2OB0ku7C25C3Vr1…

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Re: M_Boats: Rust stain
by JDavies104＠aol.com 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

I have both bleach-based toilet bowl cleaner and Soft Scrub right here in my bathroom. I'll try them both! Thanks, guys, Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt… olidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

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Keel Inspection
by Phil & Frances 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

What is the best way to check the line that raises and lowers the keel on a M 15? The only way I can think of is to jack the boat up high enough to drop the keel, but what can it rest on so it does not fall? Phil

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Question M 17
by E. Tony Reed 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

I have a new M 17 which I keep in a wet slip. It seems to keep around 2" of water in the cockpit when sitting in the slip. I don't store the motor on the boat nor do I have any stores on the boat. Of course sailing it drains. Is this typical. Also, I put the boat in the water for a short period of time to get a water mark for bottom paint again with no stores on the boat. Once the boat is loaded will that water mark change. I just want to make sure I get the bottom paint on correctly. Regards, Tony Reed

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water line
by Flickasf＠aol.com 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water. My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that you put it up that far on your Montgomery. Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365 ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt… appy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

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What do you think of Dovekies?
by Rick Langer 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Connie, Like we always discuss, all boats are a compromise, but there's always that urge in me to find perfection. The Dovekie has some unique features that seem to make it a fine camp cruiser when conditions are ideal, but it seems to be lacking when facing contingency situations. Connie said, "Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders; and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You can't ask for more in 15 feet length." You're so right about the virtues of this little ship. I'm reminded of the time you introduced me to the M15 and convinced me it was the boat for me, when I thought I wanted an M17. I'm sure I would have happy with a 17 "for awhile", but the extra effort required to rig, launch, retrieve and pack up just doesn't seem to be offset by additional advantages. BTW, I didn't get the url for the website you mentioned in your last post. I'm interested in sculling, but I'm a bit skeptical as to moving the fat little M15 with a yuloh. I made a pair of ten foot oars for my boat. They marginally work and storage is difficult. Yours for a fair tide, Rick > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:52:38 -0400 > From: "chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net" <chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: What do you think of Dovekies? > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <490B9A46.3040201(a)sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Rick, > > Here is an interesting website I found about a Frenchman who has > developed another version of a yuloh. > > Since it seems to be a take-apart yuloh, I think it would be ideal for > an M15. > > See the attached website: > > skip to main | skip to sidebar > ROWING FOR PLEASURE > > Thursday, 10 July 2008 > A new design of sculling oar > Here's an interesting sculling oar, developed by Guy Capra in Toulon. > His blog is in French, so I have probably got this wrong, but Guy points > out that sculling over the transom is a difficult skill to learn because > it involves a counter-intuitive figure-of-eight movement of the handle. > His design, dubbed godyoto (godille is French for stern oar), has a > crank in it that forces the blade to turn in the right direction when > you pull the handle. Traditional Chinese yulohs are bent, like the > godyoto, but don't have the crank. The pictures make it clearer. And the > video makes it clear it works. > > 20080424 1er essai GODYOTO > by Alomphega > > I tried over-the-stern sculling in Nessy a couple of weeks back, using a > long oar I bought off eBay, and made little headway though I did manage > to go forwards rather than in circles. If the godyoto really does work > it would be brilliant for sculling round harbours. > As a bonus, the crank splits the oar in half for easy stowing in the > boat when not in use. > (Thanks to Duckworks for the heads-up) > Posted by Chris at 09:02 > 0 comments: > > Connie > > > > chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Hi Rick, >> >> Those are always the problems to consider..... >> >> Our Bolger MICRO was ideal, and was an excellent sailer, but..... >> stepping a 20 foot free standing mast became too much. >> Phil Bolger recognized the problem and made a newer version with the >> mast in a tabernacle, where it could be easily raised. >> >> However, by then I was into the ComPac 16 - easy mast stepping, but that >> was about it. >> >> Having learned of the ComPac problems, I went looking for a "real" ship, >> and found it in the M15. >> >> Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has >> what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders; >> and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim >> ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails >> beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You >> can't ask for more in 15 feet length. >> >> When we sold LEPPO, I was building a yuloh so that I could scull the >> M15, if need be. Why row facing backwards, when you can scull facing >> forward....? >> >> Connie

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