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RE: M_Boats: Masthead?
by Tom Smith 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Our M17 #496 has the bronze rod/rudder. Was I mistaken to think a feature of this design was the ability to draw up in shallows? Would someone explain how this is supposed to work? Thanks. t Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed

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RE: M_Boats: Gooseneck hook
by Tom Smith 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Matter of fact, I took the hook off the 15 and tried it on the 17. Great fit in my case. Can vouch for all years. This is the message I sent to Dwyer before I ordered: "I want to replace my existing Dwyer tack bracket with one with a reefing hook, but I don't know which one is which (you don't provide specs for these things). My existing bracket is about 1.5 inches tall and 5/8 wide, with a ¼ hole for the pull pin and a ¼ hole that attaches the bracket to the rest of the gooseneck. Which one should I order? Thanks. t" Compare my measurements to the bracket on your M17, Bill. t Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of William Sylvester Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:09 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Gooseneck hook Tom and Jane, Since you have both an M15 and M17, do you think the DH 683 small tack bracket will fit my M17? Should I get the larger DH680? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endeig On Aug 23, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Tom Smith wrote: > > I just purchased this piece for our M15, by the way. Well made and it > comes with a fastpin. Beware of shipping--it added almost 9 bucks to > the price... t > > Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle > M15/345--Chukar > M17/496--Unnamed > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Gooseneck hook
by Tom Smith 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

I just purchased this piece for our M15, by the way. Well made and it comes with a fastpin. Beware of shipping--it added almost 9 bucks to the price... t Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed

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RE: M_Boats: Masthead?
by Tom Smith 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

I remember this process from back when Connie. Didn't you also have a welder fill the old hole? t Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M15/345--Chukar M17/496--Unnamed

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Re: M_Boats: Masthead?
by chbenneck＠juno.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Hi Larry, Let me give you a more detailed description of what I did with the mast top fitting. The Dwyer fitting has much smaller sheaves than my old fitting had, so from my point of view, I wanted the larger sheaves, plus the ability of pulling the sheaves by removing a ring and pulling the clevis pin - goodness as far as I was concerned. When I took my original mast top fitting and tried it on the Dwyer mast, the geometry of the part fitting into the mast was wrong. So, cut off the top portion (with the sheaves) from the Dwyer fitting. This fitting had rivets instead of clevis pins, so that was no way of taking it apart. Cut off the part that fits into the mast from the original fitting. This give you the top portion with the sheaves. The Dwyer fitting was cut where the sheaves were, leaving you the lower part that fits into the Dwyer mast profile Place parts in vise and file until you generate flat surfaces so that the two parts can be fitted together. I then drilled and tapped two 1/4 - 20 holes and fastened the two pieces together. Then, I noticed that the original forward sheave was too far back and the halyard didn't lead fairly. It scraped at the edge of the fitting. Can't have that, so take it all apart again, and now drill a new clevis pin hole about 1X diameter further forward - I think I used as much space as I had available. Now the main halyard leaves the sheave on the forward side of the mast and doesn't rub on anything. Is this clear? If not yell! Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Masthead?
by chbenneck＠juno.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Hi Bill, With the mast in it's normal operating position, and the boat in the water, you'll have to be patient until I haul it again. I'd take photos, but my wings aren't doing a very good job of lifting me to the heights I would need for the photo. Connie

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Gooseneck hook
by William Sylvester 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Last month one of you mentioned a site that sells a gooseneck with a reefing hook attached. Due to a computer crash, I have lost that address. Any help would be appreciated. Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig

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Re: M_Boats: Masthead?
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:38:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov writes: Connie, photos, we want photos. Thanks, Larry M-15 Hull # 189 Connie... you take them and I'll post them... Bill www.msog.funtigo.com

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M-23 Brochure
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

And here is the M-23 Brochure... compliments of Steve Shenkel http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=278333&c=1789789&p=start&cr=1

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RE: M_Boats: Masthead?
by Hughston, Larry 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Connie, photos, we want photos. Thanks, Larry M-15 Hull # 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of chbenneck(a)juno.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:48 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Masthead? Hi Scott, I concur. When I rebuilt my mast using a Dwyer section, the old Jerry mast top fitting did not fit the new mast. I had bought the new Dwyer mast top fitting, but preferred to use the old, original one. So, I carefully cut the sheaves off the Dwyer mast top base, cut the old sheaves from the original mast top base, and put the Dwyer mast top fitting and the old Jerry fitting together, for the best of both worlds. While I was at it, I moved the hole for the forward sheave forward by a little more than 1 X hole diameter to stay in solid metal. The reason was, I wanted the main halyard to have clearance at the top of the mast, and not be dragged over the mast corner. I wanted it to come off the sheave and lead freely down the fore side of the mast. It took a bit of machining, but I accomplished my aim. The Dwyer fitting fits in the top of the mast, as designed, while on top of it sits the old Jerry fitting, giving me larger sheaves, and now a free lead downward on the fore side of the mast. Connie. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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