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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15
by bobjudy2＠comcast.net 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hi Evan, If you still are interested in seeing a M15, contact me off list and we probably can arrange something. Bob Becker M15 #208 Castro Valley > To: Evan Lewis > > I am very interested in the Montgomery 15. I have been sailing on San > Francisco Bay for over 30 years (my most recent boat was a Petersen 44). > I want very much to see a Montgomery 15 and to find out about owners' > evaluations of the boat. I live in Berkeley and would greatly > appreciate hearing from you. > Cordially, Ian Arion > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: re: Klabautermann VS the EPA
by chbenneck＠juno.com 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hi Steve, Thanks for the eye opener. As for Connecticut, I doubt that anybody is even thinking about water sports at the moment. The sun is out today and the temperature may get to 40 degrees. I see patches of lawn (minus snow) across the street, but LEPPO still had enough snow on the winter cover that I'll wait awhile before thinking "sailing". Connie PS. What Department of the EPA is responsible for sea sickness discharge approvals. After reading your account, it's better to be safe than sorry. .......and how much do these EPA Approvals cost?

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re: Klabautermann VS the EPA
by Steve R. 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

FYI, while we are on the topic, just in case someone gets in your face someday. BTW: I am not a lawyer. Activists have been photographing the fuel docks in Key West. According to the attorney who witnessed this, the federal fine is $5,000 for a fuel spill. He said those providing evidence may be rewarded with half the fine. Activists have challenged boaters at Kentucky Lake over leaky fuel hoses. What hose does not leak somewhere? People go to the shore to have a good time. The definition of a good time seems to vary widely. There was a time when activists focused on industrial facilities. Industry has either closed down or cleaned up. You would think that would make them happy. The worse public a** chewing I ever had was at an seminar by a senior EPA official who was mad about pollution from power plants. She was upset because we had reduced it. We cut pollution quicker than we had to, made bigger cuts than were required, and did it at less cost than originally estimated. The air was cleaner, the lights stayed on, and this political appointee was livid. I am convinced that many of these activists have a social or political agenda that goes beyond clean air and water. Federal law prohibits the discharge of virtual everything into waterways. There is no quantity threshold. A sheen is sufficient evidence for conviction. States may set stricter limits than US law. States are usually mandated to enforce federal environmental regulations, so the enforcement may vary. Animal, vegetable or mineral, accidental or intentional, the law is the law. You may curse the EPA. I prefer to contemplate job security. Some days it is the only thing that keeps me going. So, any one done any sailing yet? steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Klabautermann VS the EPA
by Judy Langer 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Hey Connie, isn't direct animal discharge still legal? So you can do just about anything if you're willing to do it hanging over the rail? And then there's that line from the great state of New Jersey, " Everything is legal as long as you don't get caught". Rick Langer > > Is it still a crime if it "accidently" falls out of your shaking fingers > as you stand by the railing? > > Does getting seasick require an EPA Permit also? > > Connie

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Video
by Larry E Yake 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

You guys won't believe the video I found on-line. It's called "Pocket Cruiser - How to Equip a Trailer Sailer for Serious Ocean Cruising". I ordered it, of course. <grin> I'll let you all know if it's as good as it sounds. They carry it, and lots of other good stuff, at www.onlinemarine.com . Larry Yake M17 #200 Tullamore "In a power boat you get there faster. In a sailboat you're already there."

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Montgomery 15
by IANARION＠webtv.net 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

To: Evan Lewis I am very interested in the Montgomery 15. I have been sailing on San Francisco Bay for over 30 years (my most recent boat was a Petersen 44). I want very much to see a Montgomery 15 and to find out about owners' evaluations of the boat. I live in Berkeley and would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Cordially, Ian Arion

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Re: M_Boats: Regarding the M17 For Sale
by Don Haas 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Regarding the M17 For Sale > > A couple of years ago (Feb 2003) I took a picture of an M17 with a light blue hull. it was moored at the time at BobJackon's Mini Marina on Siltcoos Lake near Florence Oregon. It was hull # 80, build in 09/75. Never saw the owner and haven't been back lately to see if it is still there. > > Don Haas > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Bob Olson <bobo4u(a)qwest.net> > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Date: 3/13/2005 7:47:23 PM > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Regarding the M17 For Sale > > > > Steve, > > > > Is the boat listed somewhere? > > > > --Bob Olson > > > > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Steve & Diana Parsons wrote: > > > > > There is a light blue 17 here in Oregon. Owned by a family in > > > Silverton... Not sure of the year. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <bownez(a)juno.com> > > > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:16 AM > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Regarding the M17 For Sale > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Listers, > > >> > > >> Someone is going to swoop on this M17 and get a hell of a deal. > > >> I wonder, is the blue hull a factory color? The original color of my > > >> M23 was a light blue, but I don't recall seeing any M17's of that > > >> pigment. > > >> > > >> Bones > > >> > > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > > >> Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. > > >> Now includes pop-up blocker! > > >> Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Message for Fuh-Shing Pan...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

In a message dated 3/14/2005 8:53:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, fpan303(a)hotmail.com writes: http://www.howies.net/socalpotter/ Thanks for the reply. I'll be contacting Captain Howie in the next few days. I also posted the question on the message board of the SoCal Potters. Captain Howie gave me his Email address. I'll see you on the pond, Bill

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Re: M_Boats: re: Klabautermann VS the EPA
by chbenneck＠juno.com 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Hi Rik Touche! Great reply! Connie

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Re: M_Boats: re: Klabautermann VS the EPA
by chbenneck＠juno.com 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Hi Don, Is it still a crime if it "accidently" falls out of your shaking fingers as you stand by the railing? Does getting seasick require an EPA Permit also? Connie

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