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M15 North Channel Adventure
by Stan Froseth 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

Lynn and I just returned from a 2-week cruise on "Cat's Paw" to the North Channel of Lake Huron. We wanted to try the area after reading the exploits of "Busca Brisas" (M17), "Peapod" (WWP 15) and others. Thanks folks for sharing your experiences; the Channel is truly a fine cruising ground for tiny boats like ours. We used Spanish Municipal Marina as our home base, anchoring out eleven nights. Our tour ranged from Dewdney Island (West) to Baie Fine (East). Winds ranged from dead calm to about 30 knots (we sat those out!), with many hours in the 5 to 15 knot range. We were under way about 75 hours, and of those used the motor about 23 hours. The Honda 2-horse used 12 liters of gas. Some highlights and observations that might be of use to others interested in a similar trip: - We were pleased with how well the boat took care of us in several 15 - 20 kt conditions. We reefed early and generally went with the flow (i.e. downwind); we also could get upwind effectively in 2-3 foot waves as long as there was plenty of wind for driving power. - We religiously monitored the Environment Canada forecasts on VHF weather channels 3 and 9. These reports were pretty accurate and saved our bacon a couple times. - Our time between marina visits was limited to about 3 days, primarily by porta potti capacity. We found that with planning we could make a midday stop at Spanish or Little Current (town dock or Spider Bay) and then continue to an anchorage. - Anchorages were generally not crowded; 5 of the eleven nights we were alone. The most boats we encountered was 9 (storm forecast), otherwise never more than 3. Like most cruisers, we sought anchorage early in the day to enjoy the swimming, blueberries, and quiet. - Shoal draft (centerboard and rudder up, steering with the short-shaft motor) allowed us to get into a few really unique spots. We touched bottom only once. - We carried two Danforth anchors (8# and 4#, each with 10 feet of chain plus 150 feet of rode) and a 100 foot shoreline. These were adequate and necessary. Since the water was warm and we love to get wet, swimming or wading to shore was fun. - We don't cook on the boat under any circumstances; for hot meals we took the butane backpacking stove ashore. - Everyone told us that complete charts were a must--they were right! There are lots of rocks awash, tricky reefs, and shallow passes between islands. We made good use of our hand bearing compass, steering compass, dividers, course plotter, and GPS receiver. And we did a lot of conning from the foredeck. Fog was never a problem during our trip. - The natural values are unsurpassed: clean water, cliffs and other rock formations, fossil beds, wildlife. "Cat's Paw," in her second year on the water, is sailed mainly here in Duluth MN. Weekends often find us exploring the harbor or swimming off the boat on Lake Superior while waiting for wind. Appreciation to Jerry Montgomery & Bob Eeg for designing & building a solid, fun boat. Stan & Lynn Froseth M15 #616 "Cat's Paw" Duluth, MN _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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The M-17 is officially mine... really!
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

To all of the people who called on the M-17 from the Latitude 38 sailing rag... I know the past owner was telling people that I was the owner, providing the check clears. Well, I'm here to tell you, he has verified, my check has cleared and "Tiperary" is officially mine! She is going to Grants Pass, Oregon in the next couple of weeks and then home to San Francisco in a few weeks after that. I'm working way to many hours to enjoy her at the moment. If she were here, I'l likely have to take a few days off (no, no, no) to get to know her. So, as it were, I'm pleased she's not here. When December comes around, I'll give up the work for about five months and then you'll hear about some of my sailing adventures! Hopefully in warm waters. Bill M-17 SF Bay Area

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At the launch ramp
by Seawitch 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

The challenges of the singlehander in launching the boat are indeed not in getting it off the trailer, but since in my case where I launch, primarily used by pwc's and bass fishermen, the dock is quite a distance from the rock encrusted ramp. The challenge is to scramble over the trailer tongue, up over the bow of the boat, get back into the cockpit, get the Honda 2hp started, get it rotated around so you can get it into reverse and oh by the way, did you remember to unhook the trailer hook from the bow of the boat? Now, if the motor starts on the first or second try, and if it stays running while you maneuver it around into the reverse position, then you will be ok unless in the meantime, it has drifted off the trailer, and the waves have carried it up onto the rocks or the other ramp area. Once the boat is heading towards the dock, no problem, just tie up and jog back to the truck and get it moved up the ramp and parked. The reverse, getting it back on the trailer is actually somewhat easier. Once it's on the trailer, getting off and hiking up the trailer to the tongue isn't quite so challenging. Doing all of this and remaining dry is of course impossible. I think the best course of action is to find a launch site which has the dock right along side where you only have to move the boat with the bow and stern lines. That's my next plan. Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)

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Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16
by Randy Watkins 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

Irv, There is a 1981 M15 for sale in Texas (not mine ) ( San Antonio, TX) . If interested I'll give you the info. No idea on the price or other details. It was my prior boat and in good conditiojn when I sold it a couple of years ago. Randy W. M15 "Becca Anne" >>> kooris(a)rcn.com 8/5/04 6:17:04 PM >>> Bob, I have but I would like another opinion. I want the Monty 17 or 15 but need to continue to look for used one. Unless you want to make a incredible deal!!! Irv > From: Bob <Bobeeg(a)earthlink.net> > Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:02:46 -0700 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16 > > Irv......you didn't read the www.msog.org site? > > http://www.msog.org/models/m15/m15_vs_c16.cfm > > Fair winds > Bob > > Irvin Kooris wrote: > >> Hi Doug, >> Where did you put in and where did you go. >> I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the >> M15? >> Irv >> >> >> >>> From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> >>> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise >>> >>> Bill, >>> >>> I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for >>> two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were >>> the size of small grains of sand and came off with a >>> sponge. >>> >>> 10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no >>> problem. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Doug Kelch >>> "Seas the Day" >>> --- BILLAMICASR(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi Rich, >>>> Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small >>>> amount of growth come >>>> right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at >>>> Oyster Point a few miles North. >>>> I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but >>>> don't want to add the coating. >>>> Bill M-17 SF >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >>> http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Return to Priest Lake (long)
by Larry E Yake 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

I went back to Priest Lake this weekend. It was time to take Tullamore out. My month at the marina was over. But also, I just felt a need to return. As I left home, I asked my wife "Well, what will it be today, rescue a jet-ski?" Yesterday was a cool, cloudy day, but as I sailed away from the marina, the sun burst through and all seemed well. The wind was straight from behind and the lake was real rough, so I spread the genoa out with the whisker pole, rigged a preventer on the boom, and let the wind take me down the lake wing and wing. It was a wild ride with the following seas surging up from behind and carrying me along. Constant steering was required to avoid a broach. Up ahead, the sun was gone, the clouds were low and ominous. The lake was black, with lines of foam trailing the breaking waves. It soon became obvious where the wind was taking me. We were headed back to Eight Mile Island, where I found the Catalina run aground last week. I thought of veering off, going somewhere else, but I let the wind carry me. "OK, girl, what are we doing? Are we looking for the body?" (He still hasn't been found.) As I swung into the cove, thinking of anchoring out of the wind, it felt all wrong. Moody, dark, unwelcoming. I drifted through, past where the Jodi Beth was grounded, preparing to head back out, when suddenly, unexpectedly, I threw open the anchor locker and dropped the hook. "OK, this is too weird." But it was quiet, so I decided to relax a while. Five minutes later, a jet-ski struggles into the cove. Two young teenage boys were aboard trying to keep it upright and running. They were lost, running out of gas, and on the verge of sinking. "Need some help?" Ten minutes later, they're aboard Tullamore wrapped in my towels, the jet-ski/sea-anchor is towing behind, and we're heading for Indian Creek Campground. As we leave the cove, the wind drops, the lake calms, and the sun peeks out again. All is good. Larry

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Re: M_Boats: Trailer Sailor Special
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

Al, Did the M-17 or the M-15 make the list? Gary

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The most fabulous day!!
by Seawitch 21 Aug '04

21 Aug '04

Well guys, I have to share with you all the most fabulous day I've had with my M15. First off I have to tell you that two weeks ago, I retired, that's right, I am no longer working. So, when today dawned a brisk, fall kind of day, with nice winds I was able to say, I have no plans, no place to be, so I'm going to hook up the boat and head for the lake. It was absolutely, the best day I've had since I got the boat. With no pressure at the launch ramp, I could take all the time I needed and screw up as much as I always do with no one hurrying me. Since I'm single handing it, there are some challenges with the launch but once off the trailer and tied up at the dock with the truck parked, I raised sails while at the dock. I got to feel the boat do her stuff. She had some gusts which caused her to heel over some, maybe 15' but towards the late afternoon, the winds got even more brisk and we were humming. The dock and ramp are on the south side of the lake and the wind was from the north so, I was able to sail her right back to the dock. Only had to use the motor to drive her back up on the trailer. What a blast! The biggest challenges are launch and retrieval when single handing. Once you drive the boat onto the trailer, have to scramble off the bow end, and secure to the trailer winch. No way to do all this without getting wet! All well and good as long as I am nimble and quick. Anyway, just had to share the high with all you like minded folk! Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)

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RE: M15 North Channel Adventure (htmills@bright.net)
by Stan Froseth 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

Thanks, Tod for the link to some amazing North Channel wildlife pictures. We enjoyed watching and hearing the raucous sandhill cranes. We just got our kodak photos back--I'll post some when I get em scanned. Stan >Stan, > >I hope you got some photos! Perhaps you and the others would enjoy these: > >http://www.glcclub.com/frame-members.htm > >click on "Photo Gallery" > >and then directly under New Photos, click on "Mel Wallbank's Fox Island Fox >Pup Photos from June 2003" > >Some neat pics of the sort wonderful stuff to be seen, especially early in >the season before too many >other cruisers are about. > >Peapod is still sailing up there; has been since July 5th....must be NICE! > >Tod _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: M_Boats: Yamaha 2.5HP on M15 w/fixed mount?
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

John, When you can, please measure the distance from the hull to the outside edge of the mount. Could be there is a small difference in some of them. I know on the P-15, it works the same way, some can some can't tilt & lock the motor. A measurement may help to find out the difference. Bill

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Re: M_Boats: Doug's self steering rig
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 19 Aug '04

19 Aug '04

Doug Someone posted a shot of Seas close-hauled on the TSBB which showed some kind of self steering rig, lines and pulleys, so the boat can be steered from the companionway. How about a comment on what you did and how it works. Don

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