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RE: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 porta potti
by Hughston, Larry 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Thanks, I will give it a try. -----Thanks, Larry --hull #189 -----Original Message----- From: htmills(a)bright.net [mailto:htmills@bright.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:10 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 porta potti I'm not Doug, nor do I own a 15, but.... Thetford 135 fits. Snuggly. Some warm tap water in the holding tank may help with the initial fit. http://www.thetford.com/portable_100.cfm Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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not one found
by Roy LaFleur 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

searched every where, not one, and can't find anyone who has even tried to put a stayless mast on a montgomery 17 has anyone tried to put flolding doors instead of usual hatch boards. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!

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Re: M_Boats: not one found
by David Thomason 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Doesn't a mast float? Actually, I'm serious, I've only dealt with wooden masts, and they float just fine... you actually have to keep your log-rolling friends away from them as the spiked shoes are hard on the finish... >>> Bobeeg(a)earthlink.net 07/21/04 12:08AM >>> I think Dan fell overboard trying to lift a 26 foot mast over his head while underway, past the bridge. :-) Just kidding. Larry E Yake wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Roy LaFleur <twinomad(a)yahoo.com> >writes: > > >>searched every where, not one, and can't find anyone who has even >>tried to put a stayless mast on a montgomery 17 has anyone tried to >>put flolding doors instead of usual hatch boards. >> >> > >Roy, >I remembered this posting from a couple years ago, but I don't think >we've heard from him since. Dan, are you still out there? >Larry > >On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:28:24 EDT Bkmdanocaribbean(a)aol.com writes: >Dear Todd, >I am presently making some extensive modifications to my M -17, which >include a fee standing carbon fibre mast and a Chinese lug rig with >corresponding core-cell reinforcing to the hull. >At the moment I am looking at some drawings made by Tom Mac Naughton for >his Farthing design. I'm also open to anyone else's vane steering >system, as this boat will be be cruised extensively with another >microcruiser from Sweden. >If you would like to share any ideas considering your vane steering >design, it would be welcomed. I also have a friend who is a certified >MIG - TIG welder who is actually an artist when it comes to fabrication. >Please let me know what you think. Many Thanks, DanBolbrock > >M-17,#220 Montpetit > > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: re: motor shut off procedures-Yamaha and Suzuki 4S
by David Thomason 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

>>> gilbert(a)mindgame.com 07/20/04 10:39PM >>> you know its funny how service advisors advice. I just purchased a 2003 Suzuki 4 stroke 4 horse. and asked the service guy/asst mgr, he said run it dry. and transport it standing up. This really didnt kick in until I took the motor home (propped up in the seat like a passenger) I thought "OK... problem, its OK now when its new and clean but how about when its wet and oily" as soon as I got home I opened up the owners manual and WOW ...transportation instructions, should be OK as long as the shaft is below the motor head, and with "this side up" showing. Still I dont usally transport my motor mounted on the transom so, first order of buisness is to make a motor "pillow for transporting in the cockpit. Now for the next order of buisness Gilbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Watkins" <watkins(a)iodp.tamu.edu> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:34 PM Subject: M_Boats: re: motor shut off procedures-Yamaha and Suzuki 4S > I was speaking with the service advisor about the right way to shut down > a new Yamaha 4 stroke and he said don't run the carb, dry. He said just > shut it off. He said the float inside the carb. should not run dry under > normal boating. > I also asked the same question to a different service advisor at the > Suzuki shop and he gave the same advice. I was always told in the past > to "run it dry" but apparently that's changed with the new tehnology > motors., at least Suzuki and Yamaha. Anyone else discussed this with > your outboard shop? > > > Randy W. > M15 Becca Anne > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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I know... Off on a tangent
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Not Monty related. But, may be helpful anyway. My sister in WA state gave me this web site. http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/ I was telling her about a fantastic oporitunity to make millions with little investment. The company is the ZAKEN CORP. After looking them up and seeing the comments, I think not. Look at the site, it could be a handy addition for future use. Yea... I'm bored tonight Regards, Bill

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Motor Locks for 2HP Honda
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

The problem with the Honda 2hp is at the mechanism that allows it to rotate in a 360. If a thief were so inclined, all it would take is to remove the two bolts and everything except the mounting hardware is now his. Because of that, I believe this motor is one that ought to be outa sight outa mind. Bill

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re: motor shut off procedures-Yamaha and Suzuki 4S
by Randy Watkins 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

I was speaking with the service advisor about the right way to shut down a new Yamaha 4 stroke and he said don't run the carb, dry. He said just shut it off. He said the float inside the carb. should not run dry under normal boating. I also asked the same question to a different service advisor at the Suzuki shop and he gave the same advice. I was always told in the past to "run it dry" but apparently that's changed with the new tehnology motors., at least Suzuki and Yamaha. Anyone else discussed this with your outboard shop? Randy W. M15 Becca Anne

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FW: RE: M_Boats: Motor Locks for 2HP Honda
by Don&Sonja 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Don&Sonja dshaas(a)sprintmail.com > [Original Message] > From: Don&Sonja <dshaas(a)sprintmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery <Sailboats montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>; <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: 7/19/2004 6:15:34 PM > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Motor Locks for 2HP Honda > > Hi Peter; > I use a heavy duty bike cable with loops on each end. One end is wrapped around the motor below the head and threaded through one loop. The other end is looped through the motor mount and locked with a paddle lock. How many wraps depends on how long the cable is. You need to make it tight enough so it cannot be slipped off. After some experimentation with location and lengths, I found that I don't need to remove the cable when I use the motor since it is not attached to anything that swivels. When trailering I usually lay the motor on a rug in the cockpit and use the same cable and lock setup. > > I think I used the same system when I had the original motor mount. When I changed to the Fulton adjustable, I replaced one on the transom mounting bolts with a heavy stainless eyebolt and lock the cable to that. > > > Hope this helps. > > Don > M15-248 Dream Catcher > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Peter Deffenbacher <pwdeffen(a)easystreet.com> > > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Date: 7/19/2004 4:53:04 PM > > Subject: M_Boats: Motor Locks for 2HP Honda > > > > Does anyone have or use a motor lock for their 2 HP Honda. It would be > > so easy to remove and carry this motor! I just received the latest > > issue of Practical Sailor and they have a review of motor locks and > > recommend the Islander Outboard Motor Lock. Their web site is > > www.islandmarineproducts.com but they don't give dimensions. So I > > thought that I would ask what others on this BB have used with their 2 > > HP Honda's. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > Peanut M15 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Port and Starboard Shelves
by Hughston, Larry 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Doug, I am trying the figure out who sells a portapottie that will fit my M-15 for the space provided. I had and old portapottie (small, two gallon size) and it is still 3 inches too tall ! What do the you and the other Monty types use ? ----Thanks for any information on this mystery. ---Larry, hull# 189 / M-15 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Kelch [mailto:doug_kelch@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Port and Starboard Shelves Rick, I spend many nights on my M15 every year and cannot recommend any location for permanently mounted shelves that would not interfere with sleeping or the constant rearrangement of gear. I keep a dishpan on top of a plastic box in the space just aft of the the V berth, starboard side. I also keep the long handled things like whisker poles, paddles, brooms, fishing poles etc. here. The long poles keep the dishpan from sliding laterally and the plastic box is just low enough to keep the dishpan from sliding forward. When you need something from the "junk drawer - GPS, sunscreen, pens, knife etc you just reach under while siting in the cockpit (sailing along) lift up the edge of the dishpan and pull the pan on to the berth. Most of the time I can find what I need by feel and don't have to actually slide the pan out. Living space is precious and permanent shelves don't add enough value to encroach on the living space. For what it is worth. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" M15 #310 --- Rick Langer <farreach(a)optonline.net> wrote: > Of all the improvements I plan for my boat, one that > is important every time I sail is some quickly > accessible interior storage. A lot of boats have > shelves port and starboard running the length of the > cabin. I find these shelves great for storing all > the things you need to grab fast. The M15 has a ton > of storage, but I don't really like guessing where > what I want is and then go digging through gear and > cushions to find it. When I sold my old boat and > cleaned out I found things in the below cushions > storage areas that I had forgot I ever had. > > So I thinking of building some shelves, but the hard > part seems to be attaching them to the boat. I > thought that drilling holes through the hull would > be less than prudent and those screw points sticking > out of the hull might be hazardous to fellow > boaters. Seriously, there is a small amount of > space between the cabin skin and the hull, but > finding the place where I won't go through the hull > is problematic. > > Has anyone built shelves and can you advise me? > > Rick Langer > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Topping lift pics
by bobjudy2＠comcast.net 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

I took a closeup picture of my topping lift and I will send it to whoever asks. If there is enough interest, I will try to get it on the MSOG page. Bob m15 #208 > Please send a pic of the topping lift mentioned. > Sorry I forgot to include my address in the first reply > saltydog(a)ev1.net > > Thanks > > Wayne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Yeargain" <saltydog(a)ev1.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:13 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Topping lift pics > > > > I'd Like a pic also > > > > Wayne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Fuh-Shing Pan" <fpan303(a)hotmail.com> > > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:54 AM > > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Topping lift pics > > > > > > > Hi, Bill, > > > May I have the pics? My email address is: fpan303(a)hotmail.com > > > Thanks, > > > Fuh-Shing Pan, M15 #120 > > > > > > > > > >From: BILLAMICASR(a)aol.com > > > >Reply-To: For and about Montgomery > > > >Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > >Subject: M_Boats: Topping lift pics > > > >Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:04:10 EDT > > > > > > > >While in Monterey this weekend, I took a few pics of Bob Becker's M-15 > > > >topping lift arrangement. If there is need for a pic, let me know with > an > > > >Email, off > > > >list, and I'll forward a shot of how his is rigged. > > > >Bill > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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