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Cruiser Challenge (long)
by Rick Reynolds 25 Jul '04

25 Jul '04

Montgomery's in attendance at SCA Cruiser Challenge VI ? FOUR Montgomery's within reasonable proximity to Monterey ? More than a FEW ? REASONS to attend have been posted on the forums and the magazine 'Small Craft Advisor', supports and covers it well. Reasons so few Montgomery's attend is a question for this forum. If a few more than a few Monties show up, besides being fun, the Cruiser Challenge may become rather 'mo interesting'. You've heard and read the reasons to go. How about the practical and rational . . . Reasons NOT to attend SCA Cruiser Challenge ? (1) Distance (2) Time (3) Money (4) Not interested (5) Sailor not ready (6) Boat not ready DISTANCE can be a real factor. How far is Kentucky from Monterey ? TIME of which there is never enough. If you could arrange a mini vacation, away from the usual same old same old, would a picturesque setting on the Pacific Coast be OK ? MONEY, of which grows on trees, is always short. Monterey can be expensive. Some stay on their boat. Seaside is 7 minutes away from the harbor and a world away financially with economical lodging. NOT INTERESTED in good times sailing through the middle of a postcard ? SAILOR NOT READY. Practice tips for the Cruiser Challenge: Smile and laugh at regular intervals. Spend increasing time relaxing and enjoying. BOAT NOT READY. Is it ever ? My readiness program: (1) Power wash bottom. Boat had been sitting in dirty river water for months. Alien stuff growing on the bottom that would keep a biology class busy for a long time. Power washer opened a few of the blisters that heavily populate the bottom. Never was able to completely scrub the brown stain off. (2) Restitch original sails where battens were beating their way to freedom and various other worn areas. Quality of stitching is fine if seen from the back of a galloping horse. (3) Turned halyards & sheets end for end to give abused sections a rest. (4) Varnished over the nicks and gouges of the warped plank with rounded edges a/k/a rudder. (5) The outboard. In trying to clean out the hornet nests and spiders, I performed various no-no's as described in previous outboard maintenance posts. Happily, the little beast did eventually start. My race result after this high tech prep? I did all right, except for a first class dunce maneuver at the finish line of race #1. After 3 Cruiser Challenges, my thin dime opinion of what's important for boat readiness; SAIL TRIM and BOAT BALANCE. Add whatever go fast goodies to make your boat ready but don't forget to add trim and balance. So, there you have it. Don't let practical and rational get in the way. Treat yourself to one Cruiser Challenge. Like a good book or movie, your left wanting more and look forward to the sequel. The real challenge may be, can you do just one ? Rick Reynolds M-15 #460 "Lil Becca"

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Cruiser Challenge & Kentucky
by Rick Reynolds 25 Jul '04

25 Jul '04

The distance factor in 'Reasons NOT to go' was stretched beyond 'reasonable proximity to Monterey' with the mention of Kentucky. That was a reference to Steve and Pam Haines who are from Kentucky (and sometimes Florida). They attended SCA CC VI. However, they flew. It's tough to rationalize Einstein's universal rule of Distance and Time equals Money. There's rational distance, irrational distance and ludicrous. Mini vacations - maxi vacations - distant galaxy vacations. John Edwards, M17 "Miss T" (attended CC V) might have an interesting opinion about distance. A Steinbeck footnote: the desert and orange groves are now casinos and a parking lot at Disneyland. The courses seem balanced, fair and not favoring a particular design. The buoys are about the size of 55 gal drums. From a distance, the swells/wind obscure them a little. The buoys have GPS coordinates and some utilize GPS so as not to meander to far off course. The smaller boats, which start 5 minutes after the large/mid size fleet, can see and just follow the larger boats. Of course, if the lead boats (and this happened last year) miss and go around the wrong mark . . . There's a dozen or so marks/buoys in the bay of which the course can be selected from. Its just you don't know which will be used until the skipper meeting before the race. Lyle Hess' "best little boat I never designed" might be fast, however, the little Potters are improving. Newer (i.e. modern) type sail rigs are appearing and their increase in speed is very noticable. If you don't keep your boats pointy end moving forward quickly, your field of vision might soon be that of a Potters stern. Frightful little thought. Rick Reynolds M15 #460 "Lil Becca"

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Re: M_Boats: Cruiser Challenge (long)
by Steve R. 24 Jul '04

24 Jul '04

I do not know if you folks read the posting of the P-sailors, but I get the impression they have fashioned a course that suited the abilities of their boats and attempted to handicap the Montys. Is this a level playing field? And why is it so hard year after year to locate the bouys? Could you competitors comment? Unfortunatly Kentucky is a long way away. I gave a fleeting thought to making the trip as I do have a new tow vehicle and if I were going I would rather go in it now than say, waiting until I buy the next one 14 years from now. Maybe that passage from Steinbeck when Grandma died in the back of the truck on that last desert leg is stuck in my mind. And the Joads started from Oklahoma. Maybe some of us could meet and drive round the clock from Columbus or Louisville or St. Louis. Maybe even link up with others for a coast-to-coast excursion. Maybe we could chip in to award prizes to the highest finishing Montys so as to help defray their expenses. Is that legal? If not cash prizes, maybe gift certificates to WM or a restraunt or a pre-paid gas card? I like reading that Montys won. What can we do about it? steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: Cruiser Challenge (long)
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 24 Jul '04

24 Jul '04

Hi Rick, Cruiser challenge was a hoot. I didn't have the time... I drove down at the last minute, and had to leave early... still glad I went. I was crew. How ready did I have to be? Next year... I'll bring my Garmin Map 76 (to find the buoys). I'll be there next year. See you there. Bill Hey, if I don't have my Monty by then... if one of you wants the trophy, I'll rent the boat and get you one. Better yet... you take your boat, and I'll race you! A huge problem occured this year at the challenge. There was not one M-17 to be found anywhere. Of course that made the Potter 19 folks very happy as they had the middle size catagory to themselves. This means an M-17 didn't win because it wasn't there. M-17's where are you?

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Re: M_Boats: M15 and Centerboard Question
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 24 Jul '04

24 Jul '04

Gilbert, Great story, must have been fun.

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RE: M_Boats: M15 and Centerboard Question
by Hughston, Larry 24 Jul '04

24 Jul '04

Bob, I have tried that but it appears frozen after four years of disuse by the previous owner. I think will have to lift the boat off the trailer entirely and work on it (safely) in that condition. -----L M-15 hull # 189 -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:Bobeeg@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:24 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 and Centerboard Question Larry You should be able to pull the centerboard line and ' bump' the board up a bit while on the trailer. Bump it up and down about 1/4 inch. Hughston, Larry wrote: >Brian, On my M-15 I have not yet tested to see if the centerboard >drops. I just got this M-15 a few weeks ago and needs some minor but >time consuming work before I launch. My question is, should I be >concerned about visible rust coming through the gelcoat at the >centerboard pin? Is this replaceable or should I not worry about it? >This Monty has been in a good deal of salt water in the San Diego area by the previous owner. > >Thanks for any information on this. Larry, hull # 189, Sacramento. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Ripley [mailto:brian_ripley@yahoo.com] >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:55 AM >To: jvandrey(a)pocketyacht.com; For and about Montgomery Sailboats >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 and Centerboard Question > > >I replaced mine while anchored. It took a few dives, with nothing more >than a face mask, but wasn't too difficult. It would have been even >easier if I had realized early on that the end of the rope needed to be >decored in order to get it to fit in the hole in the centerboard. > >Brian Ripley >'88 M15 >Roseville, CA > >--- Jobst Vandrey <jvandrey(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>How does one inspect and change the painter on the M15's centerboard? >> >>Can this be done on the trailer, or does it require use of a travel >>lift. >> >>Thanks for any insights >> >>Jobst >> >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Portapottie
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Thetford 135 fits the new model M-15. Don

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Re: M_Boats: Motor Locks for 2HP Honda
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Peter: I had to modify one of those slide on lock for my 2 HP since the rods at the ends f the attachibg screw are so small. basically a piece of flat bar with two slots cut in it. I always use the lock, even when just going to get the trailer. The 2 HP sells well on the black market and is easy to lift off a boat. Don

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SF Bay Sailing
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

For a little help on SF Bay sailing go to the WW Potter Trailer Sailor Forum (link below) and look for a post (almost) every week by Don Person. He has one of the faster P-15's which will almost keep up with the M-15. He invites anyone with any type of boat to join him on a Wednesday sail or sometimes a Saturday sail. There is frequently a cat boat, a stayless P-15 with a lateen sail, some multi colored sails as well as others. I've sailed with the group a couple of times. Don and the others are great guys. I personally like Alameda, Point Richmond, Oyster Point and Coyote Point launch and sailing areas. Because I wasn't comfortable in my P-15 in the heavy weather, I stuck within a few miles from the ramps, figureing I might be able to swim that far...? Bill in San Francisco http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/potter/index.cgi

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Re: M_Boats: RE: SF Bay sailing
by bownez＠juno.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

GA, My M23 used to be slipped at Pete's I believe. Dick Lane can offer some insight I bet. I have sailed the Bay on a Bristol 27 several times, it's rather sporty out there. I loved the variety of sailing vessels on the water. PS, Pulled the M17 out of storage today. Time for massive amounts of elbow grease and cleaning solution. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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