July 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: carbon fiber masts
by Russ 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

It is my understanding from talking with a former Hake dealer that the Fox did go back to an aluminum mast. The carbon fiber was very expensive and hardware tended to pull out of it, both screws and rivets. Their current literature shows only a sloop rig for the Fox. They also had a catboat version of their 23 some time ago. Don't know whether it had the carbon or aluminum mast. Russ Browne PJ Puddlejumper ComPac SunCat #16 Branched Oak Yacht Club Sailing the prairie lakes of Nebraska

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Re: M_Boats: Change Subject 150 Genny
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

OK I ordered the new 150 Genny (drifter) from E-P for Sweet Dream. (Red in color - not tan bark) Who runs a 150 on an M-15? Where did you put the bullseye/ camcleats for the sheets? How long are the sheet? Did you use 5/16" or 3/8" yachtbraid? Did you add a ginpole and what kind. The only picture I've run across on the web was Vainilla who has cheek blocks on tracks on the combing about halfway back, running to bullseye fairleads up at the forward end ot the cockpit. Thanks in advance for any input. Fair winds Don

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Honda 4 stroke
by Seawitch 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Well guys, this has really been an interesting and informative discussion, had no idea I would stir up so much response. It's great to hear that everyone has had some of those "learning experiences". Now that I have heard so often that the Honda doesn't burn oil, I am thinking that perhaps what caused the motor to quit was something clogging up the vent valve and it didn't need oil after all. But with the little glass and the bright sun and reflections off the water, it is near impossible to read the oil level. I knew I had enough gas, having filled it at the dock, so my conclusion was that maybe it needed oil. Never thought of the vent getting clogged. As always, I appreciate hearing what everyone else has experienced. Thanks, Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)

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Re: M_Boats: Traveler & Shroud Bolt
by Steve R. 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Don, There is a simple explanation: Fact 1) My computer is 45 miles from the boat. Fact 2) My computer is ten feet from the bourbon. F-O-R-E-s-t-a-y. Sorry for the confusion. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com wrote: > Steve, what M-15 backstay????

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Re: M_Boats: RE: Oil in Honda & Catalina
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

In a message dated 7/16/2004 1:17:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com writes: I don't remember what the fix is if you do fill the cylinder with oil. will have to check with a mechanic Remove the plug and crank it over several times. The oil in the cylinder will pump out the plug hole.

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Re: M_Boats: RE: Oil in Honda & Catalina
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Thanks Connie Her motor must have inadvertenly been laid over on the wrong side. There is a dam inside the crankcase that keeps the oil in when the motor is laid on its side but it only works one way. I'm sorry to hear of Sondra's problems but it made an impression on me. From now on I'll always double check when I lay it over and check the oil when I bolt it to the boat. I don't remember what the fix is if you do fill the cylinder with oil. will have to check with a mechanic. Don

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Re: M_Boats: Honda oil
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Guys My 2 HP Honda 4-stroke is a year old and the oil is still at the same level and clear. I can't imagine needing to add oil in a years time. Sandra isn't adding oil to the GAS is she? By the way, always turn the gas switch off. Then the carb doesn'r flood. I don'r even run the gas out at the end of a sail, just switch it off. I also switch it off when I tilt the motor in the tailing position on the mount. Fair winds Don

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Re: M_Boats: Bruce anchor
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

I have considered adding a small shackle to the "spare hole" in my 4.4# claw. I can tie a short line to the bow pulpit with a carabiner snap on the end and snap it to the shackle in the claw anchor, leaving it ready to be deployed. The 4.4 is my lunch anchor, seems to hold OK, The big danford up forward is the main. Don

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Re: M_Boats: Doug's Neat Traveler arrangement
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Doug I like the continuous line idea. I rigged up a traveler adjustment for Sweet Dream. Put a oval ring between the two rear mainsheet blocks, then I snap a three to one block and tackle to the ring with the tail block tied to the windward stern cleat. Just a loop of line slips over the stern horn cleat. It's an old boom vang stetup so the rear fiddle block has a jam cleat section built in (old lazer 3:1 block). Of course, I've got to switch it everytime I tack but it helps when trying to point a high as possible. Don

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Re: M_Boats: More about the 4-stroke
by Fuh-Shing Pan 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Gilbert, I have a Yamaha 4-stroker 4hp. I motor-sailed to catalina the other week with Potter Group. GPS registered 36 miles one way and used 1.5 gallons of fuel. I opened about 1/5 of the throttle (at the "red rabit" mark) and already pushed my M15 at hull speed (6 mph on GPS). It was relatively quiet and reliable and controls well. I love it. Sometimes, though, I wonder if this O.B. is overkill for M15? Fuh-Shing >From: "Steve & Diana Parsons" <sparsons(a)canby.com> >Reply-To: For and about Montgomery >Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: "For and about Montgomery >Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: More about the 4-stroke >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:46:33 -0700 > >Gilbert, > >I am fishing a relative's boat that has an eight horse Yamaha, and I like >it >much better than the eight horse Honda that I use on my Catalina and >fishing >boat. Smoother throttle, quieter, with no change in RPM when steering. My >Honda will change RPM when tiller steering. I also like the location of >the >Yamaha shift lever. Very easy to get to. > >Steve > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gilbert Landin" <gilbert(a)mindgame.com> >To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" ><montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:55 PM >Subject: Re: M_Boats: More about the 4-stroke > > > > Man all this talk of motors. I have a 4 hp mariner that I have had since >my > > 22' pearson. I bought it used 5years ago and have done the regular > > maintenance, I have stripped it and put it back together and was totally > > comfortable w/ its operations. A couple of weeks ago I was preparing for >a > > haul-out and put the motor on a stand in my backyard. Well I'll be >darned >if > > some lowlife SOB stole both my Mariner and a new (to me) johnson 6 >seahorse > > that I had been salivating to try on my M17, from my backyard. I am >still > > livid this has caused a domino effect since I no longer have a motor, I >am > > stalled on my haul-out and I watch longinly at the other boats in the >water. > > Just makes me mad to think of the time, effort, and money you put into > > something just to have another subhuman take advantage. Pant, pant...... > > there I vented................So go out and buy transom locks ( had one) >and > > use them!! I got lazy and paid the price... > > > > PS > > > > Since I am now in need of a new(to me) motor I have been following the > > threads on 4-stroke and read the comparison on the MSOG site pretty > > informative. I had called some of the local dealers and found a brand >new > > yamah BF6 2003 model for a little over $1k that seemed pretty >inexpensive > > compared to the Hondas has anyone tried one of these? > > > > Gilbert > > 1976 M17 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

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