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Re: M_Boats: Inflatable Dinghy's
by chbenneck＠juno.com 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Hi Gang, I have gone the whole route: My original dinghy was a 9 foot round bottomed boat with sails and a dagger board. Pluses: it was large, and held the whole family - wife plus two children and gear; it was fun to sail; but............. I couldn't put it on board, if things got dicey. Next attempt: an Avon 7' inflatable. A neighbor sold it to me. Yes, you could store it down below, but:...............it took forever to inflate and deflate. It would only work with an outboard................ Forget rowing. The position was wrong; the oars were too short; and if you had to row against a 15 knot wind to get back to your boat, then the outboard had better work, or else you were going nowhere.. My outboard wasn't reliable! Next stop: I got a 7'-9" low freeboard Dwyer dinghy at a Tag Sale - cheap. Rebuilt the whole gunwale. Tried it. Rows great. Fits on board. But...............with three of four people in the dinghy, the freeboard become so low that you become a submarine - or fervently hope you don't become a submarine. Next attempt: The regular 7'-9" Dwyer dinghy. Wholly satisfactory except: ................... if I sat in the stern operating the outboard, and my wife sat in the bow to balance the boat, and we hit a wave...................the splash drenched her back. She was NOT HAPPY. So, solution to problem: I built a "dodger" for the bow of the dinghy. Folded flat for storage, but in use, kept my wife dry, no matter what sort of wake we were crossing. Success! For my M15 I built a Bolger NYMPH 7'-9" dinghy. It is light weight. I can put it on the roof rack of my car. It rows well. It is fun. .............and that's where I am today. A Bolger NYMPH dinghy to go with my M15. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Inflatable Dinghy's
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

In a message dated 3/28/2004 7:36:54 PM Central Standard Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: For my M15 I built a Bolger NYMPH 7'-9" dinghy. It is light weight. I can put it on the roof rack of my car. It rows well. It is fun. .............and that's where I am today. A Bolger NYMPH dinghy to go with my M15. Connie Man, have you got taste! Do you tow the Nymph when you're out cruising? Steve Tyree, P-15 P.S. Anyone ever try to row an M-15?

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Re: M_Boats: Inflatable Dinghy's
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

We only have experience with a Stearns River Bug, which is absolutely diminutive at about 6' long. It packs down to a 6"x1'x2', 11 lb. bundle, very easy to stow. I bought it for my 11 year old daughter. It fits her wonderfully, and it's the only boat I've towed with our P-15 without adversely affecting handling. It will float 6' 3", 170 lb me, although my long shanks end up sticking out over the bow. It paddles decently with included, breakdown kayak paddle and is very stable. It has a very tough, separate outer cover that should make it dramatically more durable. For a dink's dink, I think it works very well indeed. If you hunt around on the web, you can probably find it for under $100. Steve Tyree, P-15

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Re: M_Boats: Mellow sailing
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Don, Have a blast with your new genny and whisker pole. While you're spending money, you might want to spring for a small cheek block at the masthead for your topping lift. I have this arrangment on my Potter and find it easy and convenient. The topping lift ties off at a horn cleat just above the main halyard cleat. Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann" In a message dated 3/26/2004 9:35:18 PM Central Standard Time, LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com writes: Bill: I put a tiller tamer on Sweet Dream the first thing. A jam cleat under the tiller with an adjusable tension bungie across the cockpit. Also helps to hold the rudder straight out when coming into the dock and launching. The M-15 in responsive to shifting weight, like the potter. It heaves to easily but grabbing the boom to adjust the toping lift and pull on the reef clew tends to start her sailing again in a stiff breeze. Eventually I'll get an 80% (heavy, flat) storm jib as Jerry recommends for those high wind days. Mostly the problem has been light wind and since I've gotten a new job, I can afford the 150 Genny and whisker pole that I have been lusting after. Fair wind all. Don

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M15 jack lines
by htmills＠bright.net 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

If anyone with a 15 would like some webbing for jack lines, I have some beige flat webbing similar to seat belt webbing. It is 1 7/8" wide. I had a momentary lapse of math skills and bought twice what I wanted, but have now decided to use slightly more than I originally intended and so have only enough left over for a 15. Confusing enough? You would need to sew the ends as needed (I'm dropping mine off at my favorite local canvas shop). Free for the asking. If more than one person requests the webbing, the winner will be decided upon by lottery so that those who actually have a life away from the computer aren't penalized. I've decided to try an unconventional approach to jack lines, really only making two long tethers attached to the bow pulpit, one for each side of the boat. The thinking being that then I can fall overboard to either side forward of the mast and still end up back at the transom. Testing that arrangement will be part of my mob tests this summer. Tod www.bright.net/~htmills

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Re: M_Boats: Inflatable Dinghy's
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

I had a K79 for several years. I used it on lazy rivers and when I wanted to play with the sailboat. I had an Aquarious 23. I don't recommend it for a regular dink. It is wet at times. Get a reinforced inflatable with oarlocks. My dink (still have it) is an Avon 3.15 rollup. About 100 lbs and isn't useable for your smaller boat.

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Re: M_Boats: company buy out
by Steve R. 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

The parent companies, Raytheon and Kongsberg are involved in several joint military projects. There is no mention of a buy-out on the Raymarine, Raytheon, Simrad or Kongsberg web sites or in Google or Yahoo news. ******************************************** Note to Keith, For some reason the mailing list address disappeared from this message, I just got MC's personal address and a comma. I even went back and hit "reply all" to make sure. ********************************************** Not sailing this weekend, but I did move the boat about a mile from one storage location to another. The old facility was a large barn-like building with partitions between the bays that did not reach the ceiling. The new one is more secure and has AC outlets. It was nice to just spend some time with the boat even if I did not get her in the water. The lake is in a national forest. The trees are still mostly bare but there are some red buds and pears in bloom. steve SteveR. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- "MC" <southisland2(a)earthlink.net> wrote: Anyone heard if the story that Raymarine bought out Simrad ...

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Re: M_Boats: Inflatable Dinghy's
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Hi Randy, This is not quite the answer you are looking for... but: I bought a Sevylor IK quite some time ago for solo playing in rivers. My river of choice back then was the Rogue River of Oregon which sports mostly rounded rocks that are moss covered making them very slippery. There is a company which specializes in fun runs on the same river called Orange Torpedo Boat Trip Co. The Sevylor is the perfect boat and very economical too. I got into trouble when I changed rivers and tried the same boat in a California stream named Cache Creek. This river is loaded with sharp edged shale. In the first run I got maybe 1/2 mile before tearing a huge hole in a tube. Fortunately being in Cache Creek meant a warm water dunking and only a short walk to the highway. I replaced the boat with an AIRE 2K - 2 person inflatabe Kayak. It's fairly heavy (60? pounds) and costs roughly $1200.00. It's very tough and has an inner bladder for the air. Liked it so much I bought one of their inflateable catarafts as well. The rest of the story. If you do like the idea of the Sevylor. The IK's dont track well. So it's best to use an double bladed Kayak paddle rather than a canoe paddle. The Sevylor is cheap enough to buy one and experiment with it. Be prepared for the wet fannie routine as the sides are low and it's almost not possible to keep water out of the interior especially when getting into the boat. I believe the boat has scuppers for self bailing which allow water to enter as well. (dont quote me on that one - it's been a while ago) I for one am interested in your findings. Happy searching Bill

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company buy out
by MC 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Anyone heard if the story that Raymarine bought out Simrad and will be dropping that line in favor of the Raymarine line of tiller auto pilots, true or no true??? Is the Raymarine tiller control the only one left on the market??/

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For the fun of racing fast fans on the list
by MC 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

point vs. speed. and is 40 degrees really possible This afternoon I watched from the shore line two small sailboats racing each other. (outside Tampa Bay) One was a Monty 17 (looked like a reddish or dark orange stripe, bright sun ! ) the other looked like a Hunter 22. both had about the and speed but the Hunter was constantly able to point higher, But why should that be. Not being able to talk to the skippers I do not know if the board was down completely. But just how much difference would the board all the way down make, would it improve the pointing by ? % or ?degrees.

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