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reverse Osmosis systems
by MC Carpenter 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

some reverse osmosis systems don't use electric, some use a hand crake or some use long levers and some can be trolled behind a moving boat letting the water do the pumping.

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Re: M_Boats: Possible Montgomery Rendezvous
by Saltm17＠aol.com 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

Steve, Rondezvous is an ancient celtic word meaning:" The man can't type". I can spell, it's just that my fingers are dyslexic. Rendezvous on the other hand, is a french word meaning a pre-arranged meeting or a particular place. It was the term used for the annual get-to-gether of fur trappers in the early 1800s. Their rendezvous was a wild drunken brawling hagging spree where they also did a bit of fur trading. Ours should be a wee bit more tame, and all you need to bring is everything you need for the trip. There are a few restaurants in the area, and some land based sight seeing opportunities. I'll get more info online shortly. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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Drying wet deck core out
by htmills＠bright.net 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

Fortunately, I don't think Busca suffers from the problem at all, but the topic of repairing wet core came up on another list I'm on and someone suggested drying out the core with the aid of a vacuum pump: drilling a small hole in the deck and attaching a vacuum pump to it since the low pressure would cause the moisture to evaporate more quickly than normally. I don't think the deck would be damaged w/ 14 odd psi of vacuum unless the core were mush anyway but I suppose it ought to be carefully monitored all the same... I don't know how well that would work for anything more than a small area around the hole... After drying, then defects could be filled with epoxy as normal... Any comments? Tod (planning tentatively on a 2 wk trip to the North Channel next spring and hopefully another 2 wks to Maine again at the end of the summer)

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RE: M_Boats: San Juan Summer
by Shawn Boles 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

Hi Larry; I am interested in being included in this. My schedule may not permit participation, but keep me posted. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Yake [mailto:leyake@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 5:08 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Jaun Summer Alright! Tom W., Randy W., and Bill S. added to the list. Larry On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:08:49 -0800 "Randy Wirth" < randy(a)caffeibis.com <mailto:randy@caffeibis.com> > writes: My family is also planning a San Juan Islands trip this next summer and would love to be able to check in with other Monty owners. Please put me on any contact list. M-17, "Fore Play" randy(a)caffeibis.com <mailto:randy@caffeibis.com>

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Possible Montgomery Rendezvous
by Saltm17＠aol.com 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

It sounds like we are already in the planning season, so here is an invite to anyone who wants to come along. Next summer, the plan is to take Miss T back to the Apostle islands, and then on to the North Channel of Lake Huron. It would be great to have a M-boat rendezvous at either or both places. Is there any interest out there? Also as a separate part of that trip, I plan to float the160 mile wild and scenic stretch Missouri river (in canoes) in Montana with some friends. The float is through the same region that Lewis and Clark 100 years ago. It is also open to anyone who wants to come along. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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wow! scary stuff, just in time for Halloween!
by htmills＠bright.net 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

I thought I'd pass this along which I received in the mail tonight: First message: "Last week I had an unwelcome and nasty visitor invade my presence. What follows is an account what happened. I offer it in the hope that no one else will experience the same thing. The visitor's name is vibrio vulnificus. At least that is what the doctor thinks (I'll explain this later) I became friendly with. You may be more familiar with a subspecies of vibrio (V. cholerae) commonly known as cholera. V. vulnificus is usually caught by eating contaminated shellfish, particularly oysters. It can also be introduced through an open skin lesion like a cut. There are two manifestations-under the surface skin and into the bloodstream, where it is particularly onerous. I have the skin version, which is not exactly benign. The bacterium likes warm salt or brackish water. While found mostly in the Gulf Coast Region where monitoring takes place, our North Carolina water does offer a nice spawning environment for it. The strong suspicion is that I picked it up while diving under our boat to clean barnacles off our depth sounder, which was not working. I was diving with only a bathing suit on and scraped my leg on a piling covered with barnacles. I have a wet suit and probably would have avoided this unpleasantness if I had worn it (like the Admiral suggested) and let it take the abrasion instead of my skin. The cuts appeared minor, so I cleaned the wound off with some peroxide, smeared some antiseptic ointment on it and covered it with a bandage, figuring that would be that. Was I wrong!!! The scrape occurred Tues afternoon. Early Wed morning during a nocturnal visit to the toilet, I noticed that my leg hurt. I still didn't think much of it--just a nasty scratch. Wrong again. By the time I got up Wed morning, my leg HURT (shouting intended for emphasis). Again, still attributing the discomfort to an ordinary scratch, we adopted a wait and see attitude. I felt rather lousy Wed, so spent most of the day in bed. The next morning I could not get out of bed without help. My leg had started to swell and was getting red. It was doctor time and he worked us in that morning. He ordered blood drawn for a white count, asked me what happened, looked at my leg, and immediately ordered two antibiotics and a pain killer. He marked my leg with a pen so we could watch the progress of the infection and set an appointment for late Friday, telling me that hospitalization would be in order if the infection could not be stopped from spreading by then. When they did a second white count on Friday, it had dropped from the 22,000 per whatever unit they use to 16,200. The normal is like 8000. The antibiotics were working. This bacterium is nasty and dangerous. It moves fast. I went from being reasonably ok Wed afternoon to being unable to walk without assistance THE NEXT DAY. Because of this and because it is difficult to get good culture material to specifically id it, they don't usually try, relying instead on assessing the activity leading up to the problem. It takes a few days to grow the culture and with the high failure rate in getting a good one, they rather start treatment immediately. The other scary thing about this bug is the mortality rate--25-55%. The doctor said that if we had waited one more day before getting treatment, I could have been in real trouble. This is definitely a potentially life threatening germ, and I am lucky things up to now turned out the way they did. We had planned to go out on the boat Wed and I don't want to think about what the outcome could have been had I waited until Wed to dive, just brushed off the scrape as something trivial and proceeded out. Recovery will take some time. The doctor said to expect only gradual improvement over the next four days or so and to keep our eyes open in case this bug finds a way to bring in some reserve troops. I still can't walk without help and still have excruciating pain even with the pain medication, although it is somewhat less than it was a couple of days ago, thank God. I also need to say that I am very fortunate to have the Admiral to lean on in more ways than one. The big point I want to make here is not that we should curtail our normal activities, whatever form they may take, and withdraw into a sterile box, but to be always alert to clues that something serious is afoot, no matter how seemingly innocuous they appear. I don't know how many superficial cuts and scrapes I have had that I routinely treated, as I did this one, without further incident. But this time it was different." And someone else's reply: "Vibrio vulnificus!!! In June of 2001, I spent three weeks in the hospital with the infection, and came very close to having my right foot and lower leg amputated. In my case, the bacterial infection became blood-borne, and the white count virtually went "off the charts" before the culture was back from the lab so they could know which antibiotic to use. I learned later that the mortality rate when the bacteria becomes blood-borne is 55%. The way I was infected was in seemingly minor accident. I was simply throwing a net casting for fishing minnows when I made a bad throw, in which the leadline slightly grazed the back of my hand--did not even break the skin. It was simply an abrasion which looked a little red after I washed off the black mud from the back of my hand by swishing it in the water. The abrasion was so slight that did not even draw blood. Within six hours, I developed a heart murmur, had fever spiking to 104, and my right foot became suddenly immobile. In the hospital, the first concern of the physicians was the possibility of amputation. Even after it was determined I would not loose my foot, the plastic surgeon was of the opinion I would require skin grafts to replace the tissue which detached from my ankle due to the severe swelling and rupture of the skin. By some miracle and the constant work of the plastic surgeon over a few weeks, the skin reattached itself and I did not have to have the grafts. Now two years later, my only symptoms are a much enlarged right foot and leg, but believe me when I say that I am so glad to have my foot still intact. What I learned from this experience is that the vibrio vulnificus bacteria resides in ALL salt water, and that it tends to be more active (and aggressive) in warm brackish coastal water during the summer months. Since my episode I ALWAYS carry a little bottle of Clorox (in an eye dropper bottle) in my pocket anytime I am on the boat or fishing from the shore (which I often do). What I learned from my ordeal is that if you IMMEDIATELY flush with the bleach any abrasion to the skin, or puncture or cut or even scrape the skin while wet from salt water, the bleach it will instantly kill the bacteria. The key is "IMMEDIATELY." Also as a precaution now, every time I pull up the anchor on Merry Mary and get my hands muddy, I immediately wash my hands with antibacterial soap and then douse them with Clorox, just as a precaution. In the interest of "happy boating" if anybody on the Tartan list wants to see some "dirty pictures" (disgusting photos of my foot in the various stages of decay while in the hospital), contact me back channel and I'll send you some pix which will heighten your awareness and raise your precautions about skin cuts in the presence of salt water. It may make you a more prudent sailor!"

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Re: M_Boats: Just toss it overboard!
by Sandyal55＠aol.com 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

Outboard motors are very reliable engines. If they're taken care of, they last a very long time. Most problems come from dirt in the gas which clogs orifices in the carb. Always keep a fresh spark plug on board and a few tools to change it. Take the time to learn about the engine. It'll save you a lot of frustration.

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 2Hp Gas Cap
by bobjudy2＠comcast.net 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

I lost my cap the second time I used the motor. Now I take the cap completely off while refuling. A new cap cost $17.59 +tax in 1998. Bob M15 #208 > I lost a gas cap in the Keys and have worried about > loosing another one ever since. After reading your > posting I put a stiffener on that wimpy little T. > > I used two heavy plastic tie wraps as splints trimmed > to length and held the splint on with 4 small tie > wraps. > > It seems to work much better. > > It's done but..... do tie wraps dissolve in gasoline? > > I might have to undo this before something happens to > my gas!! > > Doug > "Seas the Day" > --- s.mcclellan(a)comcast.net wrote: > > My Honda 2-hp gas cap is restrained only by a flimsy > > little plastic "tee" that sticks into the tank - it > > can be pulled (or knocked) free with only the > > tiniest of effort. Whoever designed it should be > > summarily excoriated. It would be better to have no > > restraint at all, so that people wouldn't be tempted > > to trust it. > > > > I NEVER rely on that to keep my gas cap when I'm > > refueling on the water. Probably it would be wise > > to carry a spare cap, because removing it and > > setting it down somewhere while you refill carries > > its own risks I suppose. Knowing me (and I do) I > > probably won't get around to ordering a spare until > > I finally really do lose this one into the water, > > however. > > > > It would not surprise me in the least to hear that > > people had lost their caps. > > > A heads up for the M-15 crowd. I have seen > > several posts on the Potter sites > > > about the Honda 2 Hp motor and lost gas caps. It > > may be a design problem or > > > operator error. I suspect resting a large fuel > > container on top of the motor > > > would pull the cap loose, but I do not have the > > boat at home to look at it. Of > > > course the cap sinks, so it is not possible to > > tell if the restraint was broken. > > > It is not clear to me which vintage motors have > > the problem. > > > > > > Steve R. > > > M-15 #119 > > > Lexington, KY > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 2Hp Gas Cap
by s.mcclellan＠comcast.net 28 Oct '03

28 Oct '03

My Honda 2-hp gas cap is restrained only by a flimsy little plastic "tee" that sticks into the tank - it can be pulled (or knocked) free with only the tiniest of effort. Whoever designed it should be summarily excoriated. It would be better to have no restraint at all, so that people wouldn't be tempted to trust it. I NEVER rely on that to keep my gas cap when I'm refueling on the water. Probably it would be wise to carry a spare cap, because removing it and setting it down somewhere while you refill carries its own risks I suppose. Knowing me (and I do) I probably won't get around to ordering a spare until I finally really do lose this one into the water, however. It would not surprise me in the least to hear that people had lost their caps. > A heads up for the M-15 crowd. I have seen several posts on the Potter sites > about the Honda 2 Hp motor and lost gas caps. It may be a design problem or > operator error. I suspect resting a large fuel container on top of the motor > would pull the cap loose, but I do not have the boat at home to look at it. Of > course the cap sinks, so it is not possible to tell if the restraint was broken. > It is not clear to me which vintage motors have the problem. > > Steve R. > M-15 #119 > Lexington, KY > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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electronic navigation and RDF
by MC Carpenter 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

what happened to all those electronic navigation devices. There was Loran A then Loran C don't know if there was B, Omega seemed like it was everywhere. Sat-Nav when did that stop. Is Decca still around now GPS Is the RDF stations still out there in U.S. cause I have not seen a RDF receiver advertised for a while??? I know they still are in French South Pacific islands.

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