September 2003 - KLF - mailman.xmission.com

3AM LIBERTY3MIX
by klf-communications＠arcor.de 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

rede doch bitte deutsch mit mir, ja im prinzip hast du schon recht. aber der grund dafür ist das der name der rubriken nicht ganz treffend war. eigentlich müßte die erste "Remixe,Edits und Videos" heisen und die zweite "Megamixe"

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Fuck the Fucking Fuckers
by Don Gagen 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

I've listened to this quite a few times and I've found that it reminds me of Ministry from the albums "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" and "Psalm 69". Too bad Al Jourgensen got so fucked on drugs he can't make good music anymore. I'd like to hear more of the dark ambient like Silent Night too. Have they released any other MP3's on the site that I might have missed? "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: "missing the point"
by Tony Stuart 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

>There's no political message behind What Time Is Love i disagree. in the summer of 1989, that record had politic flowing all right. an explicit political message of unity. that's largely irrelevant these days, granted t -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers

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Re: [KLF] 3AM LIBERTY3MIX
by thomas＠klf.de 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

> .../www.klf.jp.md (mh79)/KLF - 3 Am Eternal (Liberty 3 mix).Mp3 Just a short note - shouldn't these be listed under the same category as DMC and Black Wax, since they are DJ remixes as well ?

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3AM LIBERTY3MIX
by klf-communications＠arcor.de 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

If someone wants to hear that download it from RMStringer`s ftp. .../www.klf.jp.md (mh79)/KLF - 3 Am Eternal (Liberty 3 mix).Mp3 http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/924.htm http://www.klf.jp.md

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Boulder Dash video
by Joshua B 17 Sep '03

17 Sep '03

I made a video of a first person perspective ride on Boulder Dash, a wooden roller coaster at Lake Compounce in Bristol, Connecticut, USA. I used WTIL as the background music. The ride was recorded with a Canon G5 digital still camera using movie mode. I recorded it last Saturday and edited the video earlier this evening. This is very amatur. Have a look if you like: http://www.thugenomics.com/temp.html

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dj kuta & c-row present klf-remodelled & remixed
by JOANNE LEE 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

Can any member help me with the above. I am looking to buy the original cd complete with cover, or get a copy done. thanks hellmoney

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Re: [KLF] re: missing the point
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

where does one draw the line really. at what point do you require "artists" to censor themselves and become merely "entertainers"? where do these consumer "rights" come from? who dictates what is expected or unexpected in a public performance situation? is the content of a performance situation the province of the artist or the spectator? Right. I realize I forgot what I was trying to get to. Art is really about self expression. Webstuff feels that Art is to "speak out". Why can't the artist just paint a painting expressing how much he loves his wife? Write a sonnet because of a particularly beautiful sunset? Why does he have to make an antiwar statement? There's nothing wrong with McCartney, for example, writing a song speaking out about vegetarianism. I don't have to agree with it but he has the right to do it. But what I think Dan was trying to say, and what I was trying to explain to Webstuff, is that if I go to a McCartney concert and he starts overdoing it then I have the right to be annoyed. I didn't pay $135 to hear a 20 minute speech about animal cruelty and have him try to educate me. Not that he ever did this but I think you see what I'm trying to say, or at least trying to interpret what Dan meant when he wrote "and then instead of entertaining me, lecturing me like a child about the state of the world." To be fair, however, McCartney does put his money where his mouth is, but not all entertainers, sorry, artists do. Hope that made sense. -paul

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they cram it down your throat unexpectedly
by our.webstuff＠verizon.net 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

>> instead of whining about "attacks", why don't you just answer the >> questions posed: >> >> 1. do entertainers REALLY "take" your money from you? >> >> 2. do you give money to entertainers whose views you can't stand to >> hear? >> >> 3. if so, WHY? >> >> 4. do you really not recognize that many people feel the role of the >> artist IS to speak out? >> >> 5. have you ever gotten fired from your job for speaking out? >> >> 6. why would you want to work for people that would fire you for >> stating your opinions? >> >> >> you want discussion, Dan? there's 6 things for you to discuss right >> there > > > Are you really that daft that you couldn't understand his point? That > you = > > took the term "Take" literally instead of figuratively? Or, as usual, > are = > you = > > just trolling for a fight? why do you insist on arguing about arguing when, if you really wanted discussion, you could actually discuss the questions posed? "I'm tired of entertainers taking my money" is a completely pejorative statement that attempts to foist all the economic responsibility for the said transaction onto the artist yes, I took it literally - I thought, in REAL DISCUSSIONS, you were SUPPOSED to take people at their word and assume they mean what they are actually saying in YOUR case, "TheMgnt(a)aol.com", I now know that this is not the case and that you should not necessarily be taken at your word and that you do not always mean what you are actually saying thank you for clearing that up moving on - as far as "discussion" goes, your answer to the first question was a resounding "no", but let's be honest, that was a pretty easy one - not a lot of discussion needed there (as everyone knew the answer to that, yet multiple people keep claiming it is indeed the case) 2 and 3, can we agree that your answer is "yes, because I didn't see it coming" - so I guess two follow-up questions to that would be, "have you stopped giving money to those artists you like whose views you don't like?" and if not, then why not? 4 you didn't touch (or I missed it somewhere), and 5 or 6 weren't even meant for you but I would have no problem discussing them with you if you would've brought them up (my guess is that your answer to the 2 and 3 followups is "no, I just demand that the artist I like read my mind and give some warning that something I don't like is coming")

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Re: RE: icke
by our.webstuff＠verizon.net 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

>> my impression of Icke (he IS the former footballer, correct?) > > Aye, that's the chap. > >> is that >> he's half thoughtful analysis of what's termed "conspiracy lore" and >> half "way out there" >> >> since his analysis seems to be pretty right on most of the time, I >> wonder how accurate he is about the "way out there" stuff! > > Apparently a lot of the really out there stuff has been misattributed > to > him. The royal family as space lizards and so on. granted, "way out there" is obviously a highly subjective description but I'm not referring to anything "attributed" to him, I've read "...and the truth shall set you free" and I definitely find some of the things in there to be "way out" doesn't mean that he's wrong about those things, it may only mean my mind isn't ready to accept them as something other than "way out" - as I've said before, those things I don't find so "way out" seem pretty "common sense" (that phrase again) >> you just need common sense > > yes, but... > > "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so." > - Bertrand Russell !

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