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Re: Relaxing Kang, Ryuichi Ruins,Bendian's Mahavishnu
by john schuller 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

My dream is to see Eyvind Kang / Timothy Young / Skerik / Earl Harvin and Shahzad Ismaily cover the first two songs on Mahavishnu Orchestra's "Visions of the Emerald Beyond". That, I think would be the shit! And I second the motion that Eyvind's "Live Low" album is the BEST album of 2002. Schuller >From: Jorge Gallegos <abductor77(a)yahoo.com> >To: zorn list <zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com> >Subject: Relaxing Kang, Ryuichi Ruins,Bendian's Mahavishnu >Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:18:02 -0800 (PST) > >In terms of relaxing music my choice is Eyvind Kang's latest "Live Low to >the Earth, in the Iron Age". Lifts me up to the heavens, totally >transcendental. Possibly my choice for best of 2002. Watching him and the >Neti-Neti band perform this live in San Francisco opening for Sun City >Girls was sublime, dreamlike. In terms of the Ruins my choices are >"Burning Stone" and "Graviyaunosch". These for me defined the Ruins sound. >Ryuichi Masuda basslines had a more aggresive vibrant feel. Hisashi is a >monster on bass too but the material in those two releases is classic Ruins >for me. Its amazing how after all those years and several releases Tatsuya >Yoshida has mantained the Ruins Zeuhl-Prog/Grindcore aesthetic alive and >fresh. Haven't heard the new one yet. I can't wait to hear their Mahavishnu >medley which I've been told was ment to be part of a Mahavishnu tribute to >be released by Obtuse Mule, but Ruins ended up being the only ones among >those commissioned who were able to submit a Mahavishnu cover, more so a >medley. In that note, while in New York last month, I was able to catch >Greg Bendian's Mahavishnu Project. They were unreal, bringing some of their >own to a material I would never expect to see perform live. Bendian's got >the Billy Cobham power drumming so down, it's hard to believe that he is >the same free jazz drummer I have seen with Cecil Taylor, etc. To round >this off, wouldn't mind some day seeing Eyvind doing Mahavishnu covers with >the Ruins. That would be sweet. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now John Schuller www.johnschuller.com www.worldmisery.com do you know the deutsch that I'm sprechen? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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re: Ruins/Merzbow
by Bruno Bissonnette 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

About Merz: Aqua Necromancer uses samples from many old classic prog albums. Hence the "tribute" aspect, even though it's all quite noisified. Same concept with Doors Open at 8AM: free jazz samples, including a killer version of Coltrane's "Africa Brass Session". Again, super noisy and un-recognizable, but excellent. Oh and one more Merzbow recommendation: Oersted, on Vinyl Communications... really heavy and strong. Good luck finding it though... Just a few quick words about the Ruins (even though everyone seems to have their own opinion indeed): I really like Burning Stone and Hyderomastgroningem even though they're quite different, and samples of Tzomborgha I've heard sounded great, like a better Vrresto. One rarely mentioned is Pallachstom, also good. Bruno _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: Ruins
by Arthur Gadney 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

Hi, >There isn't any real consensus: everyone seems to have his own favorite >album. I think I'm going to go with Mandala 2000 and Burning Stone as a >start and go from there. Good choice. However, just to repeat myself, if you get "Burning Stone", you really must get the version on Yoshidas own Magaibutsu label. Very beautiful cover and, more importantly, 20 minutes of extra totally outrageous live material! Don't miss it!! bye, _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Relaxing Kang, Ryuichi Ruins,Bendian's Mahavishnu
by Jorge Gallegos 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

In terms of relaxing music my choice is Eyvind Kang's latest "Live Low to the Earth, in the Iron Age". Lifts me up to the heavens, totally transcendental. Possibly my choice for best of 2002. Watching him and the Neti-Neti band perform this live in San Francisco opening for Sun City Girls was sublime, dreamlike. In terms of the Ruins my choices are "Burning Stone" and "Graviyaunosch". These for me defined the Ruins sound. Ryuichi Masuda basslines had a more aggresive vibrant feel. Hisashi is a monster on bass too but the material in those two releases is classic Ruins for me. Its amazing how after all those years and several releases Tatsuya Yoshida has mantained the Ruins Zeuhl-Prog/Grindcore aesthetic alive and fresh. Haven't heard the new one yet. I can't wait to hear their Mahavishnu medley which I've been told was ment to be part of a Mahavishnu tribute to be released by Obtuse Mule, but Ruins ended up being the only ones among those commissioned who were able to submit a Mahavishnu cover, more so a medley. In that note, while in New York last month, I was able to catch Greg Bendian's Mahavishnu Project. They were unreal, bringing some of their own to a material I would never expect to see perform live. Bendian's got the Billy Cobham power drumming so down, it's hard to believe that he is the same free jazz drummer I have seen with Cecil Taylor, etc. To round this off, wouldn't mind some day seeing Eyvind doing Mahavishnu covers with the Ruins. That would be sweet. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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world premiere of Goetia
by Jeni Dahmus 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

A review of Jennifer Koh's recital at the Miller Theatre, which included the world premiere of Zorn's Goetia: Incantations for Violin, appears in the New York Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/12/arts/music/12JENN.html I would like to make a few comments as well. The program as a whole was remarkable and appropriately entitled "New York Hardcore." Goetia sounded fresh while maintaining Zorn's signature style. Each incantation seemed designed to produce a particular effect or solve a problem with a violin technique in mind, perhaps as a means to describe different spirits/demons from the Goetia book. The opening involved flashy, spastic gestures and bold slides reminiscent of rock music. The other movements consisted of contrasting ideas such as a warm harmonized theme primarily in a low register, rapid sequences, pizzicato with strumming, and an expressive recapitulating finale. With Goetia Zorn proves once again that he is gifted at writing for strings and has much left to say as a composer. I predict Goetia will be programmed frequently, not only because of its interest on a musical level, but also because it seems like a fun albeit challenging piece to perform. Jeni

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NZC: RIP Mary Hansen (Stereolab)
by William W. Schonbein 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

off-topic, but i know some people on this list appreciate sterolab. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2566949.stm

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by Rick Lopez 12 Dec '02

12 Dec '02

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Re: Merzbow recommendations?
by AJDinz1＠aol.com 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

Hi in new here and was going to lurk for a while but i could'nt putting in my two cents as nobody so far has mentioned the merzbox sampler! Although it's pre laptop stuff its a really good overview to get you heading in the merzbow direction of your choice. My personal favourite merz cd is the one he welded into the cd player of a merc. AJ

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Re: Ruins
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

All, Thanks so much for all the Ruins recommendations, both on-list and off-. There isn't any real consensus: everyone seems to have his own favorite album. I think I'm going to go with Mandala 2000 and Burning Stone as a start and go from there. Thanks again, Tom

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Re: Ruins
by Crowmeat Bob 11 Dec '02

11 Dec '02

the ruins improv collaborations are some of my favorite listening material of the last year. I like their stuff with Bailey and Haino better than their own tightly composed stuff. Not that it's bad or anything, but the improv shit is totally insane. Especially 'Tohjinbo' w/Bailey and 'Knead' w/Haino. some of the best disjointed thrash-improv I've heard. --wrotemaw >From: Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> >To: Samerivertwice(a)aol.com >CC: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: Ruins >Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:55:22 +0100 (CET) > >Hi, > > >Where should I start with the Ruins? I know nothing > >of their oeuvre other than the one Dave Brubeck cover > >on "In His Own Sweet Way." I like it okay but it > >didn't compel me to go out and buy every one of their > >albums (as I'm wont to do when seized by a musician > >or group). > > >Tom > >We'll be exchanging recs I think. First of all, I've >been wanting to order that Brubeck tribute for a long >time. Is it as good as it promises to be? > >My Ruins fave is their "Live at Mandala" album on >Tzadik. It's really impressive. I admit I have never >listened to it in one sitting, because their sound can >be really appaling, but they're real virtuosos in >their style. They don't really sound like a duo and, >even knowing that they are, I can't figure out how >they're capable of such a mass of sound with just a >bass and drums. >If you want to listen to something different than >their usual stuff, their album with Derek Bailey, >"Saisoro" is also very good. It's a bunch of studio >improvisations but this time everyone seems to go his >own way (nothing strange for Bailey though). > >I'm really looking forward to this new album on >Ipecac. > >Best, > >Efrén del Valle > >___________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Sorteos >Consulta si tu número ha sido premiado en >Yahoo! Sorteos http://loteria.yahoo.es > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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