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Re: M_Boats: Propane Conversion kits for Outboard outboards
by jimdahlquist＠gmail.com 06 Jan '13

06 Jan '13

No question that is right. So I will suffer my present motor for another year. I have plenty more to do. I have noticed some small 4-cycles that weigh less than my 20 year old 60 pound 2-cycle. Maybe by then there will technology to enable me to forget about combustion altogether. Miracles have been alluded to. JimD Sent from Windows Mail From: August Trometer Sent: ‎November‎ ‎24‎, ‎2012 ‎4‎:‎09‎ ‎PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Propane Conversion kits for Outboard outboards The common generator for that is the Honda (4 stroke). Sent from my iPhone August & Susan Trometer 239 849 4681 North Fort Myers, FL atrometer(a)gmail.com On Nov 24, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1(a)gmail.com> wrote: Jim, Don't think that's gonna work too well. On a two stroke, the fuel is also the lubricant (gas and oil mixed) I'm not sure how you would get the vaporous propane to carry the oil into the engine. Every propane generator conversion I've seen has a 4 stroke engine. Lubricant is in the crankcase. Big difference. I think if you want a propane outboard, the only way it's gonna work is to start with a 4 stroke. Hopefully somebody can prove me wrong. Rik On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I have seen a video on youtube showing how to convert a portable generator > from gasoline to propane. > Now I would like to explore the idea of converting my old Suzuki DT4 > 2-cycle outboard if I could find a compatible kit. > I think this would be cleaner and would not require any winter maintenance. > So far I haven't been able to find anything. Maybe because generators are > way too popular right now. > But I wanted to at least get this idea on the list. > > BTW: It appears that searching the archives requires downloading the full > data first. Is that correct? > > Jim Dahlquist > jimdahlquist(a)gmail.com -- "Since this is an era when many people are concerned about 'fairness' and 'social justice,' what is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?" …. Thomas Sowell

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by William (Skip) Campion via LinkedIn 06 Jan '13

06 Jan '13

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Measurements for an M17 mainsail cover
by Ronald McNeil 05 Jan '13

05 Jan '13

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can provide the needed measurements for ordering a mainsail cover for an M17. I want to order one so I have it in time for HPCC but I'm not taking possession of the boat until at least Jan 19th. When going to order on-line they are asking for the following measurements. Thanks, Ron McNeil

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Re: M_Boats: questions on a 21' - Get rid of the side decks??? NOOOOOO!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 04 Jan '13

04 Jan '13

Sidedecks..get rid of them??? LOL wow... Stand by for straight opinion here , but with a little but of mileage on the boat in question to back me up. While flush-decks my be more practical in some situations...there are few things as ugly, in my eyes, as a flush-decked boat, where the deck level outboard is raised up to the cabin level inboard....rather than the cabin level inboard dropped to the deck level outboard (of course I have to be partial to that or Sneakers will disown me! LOL). Looks great in big boats with the latter setup.....looks absolutely horrible in small boats with the former. I've owned Daunltess for mmmmmm ....somewhere around 8 or 9 years now. She and I have gotten around a little. I've walked those side-decks 20 miles offshore, at night, feeling pretty ill, in not the prettiest of conditions....and no...I am not going to tell you that they are ideal....far from it. Yes, her side decks are very narrow and demand extra caution. The Narrow side decks are the price we pay for a 23 with the room of most 24's and some 25's inside. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I will tell you that cosmetics are very important to me in the boat I sail/own. D's side-decks allow her sheer line to be defined and carry a graceful curve. Regardless of what you think about her cabin house (some like it, some hate it) without those side decks and the swooping shear line they provide and define she would be an ugly beast. IMHO of course! LOL She could carry a bit more beam, as nowadays the road rules are eased a bit from when Lyle drew her, but I believe you can only go another 6" or so before you are looking at wide load permits... No thanks! we stiffened her up a bit by switching to all lead ballast and adding substantially more that she was designed with while we were in there. The Monty 17 definitely does benefit from a wider beam in relation to length and sails a little better for it...I'm all for more beam.... but don't take my side-decks man!!! LOL :-) The amount of room lost inside is negligible....because ....well exactly the thing you are complaining about...they are "narrow" side decks ...allowing the coach roof to go dang near to the edge of the boat. Whenever we put anyone aboard D they are always blown away that she is "only" a 23 when they look inside. But hey Here's the good news....(and you probably are only going to figure this out from experiencing it) Unless you put up a big dodger like I have....if you want to crawl up over the deck, you can. The skinny side decks mean that you dang near HAVE a flushdeck..minus the 8 inches on each side for the side-decks. So unless you were planning on walking on the very outboard 8 inches...the skinny side-decks provide you with great aesthetics, and a huge open platform on top of the cabin to where you can walk and work. And my final piece of evidence is ....watch this slide show and imagine this boat with slab sides _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9pGMNhPRA_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9pGMNhPRA) .... seriously?? Could you do that to her? Ugh! Yuck! Pooey!!! I couldn't !!! She's look like an oversize Bolger Micro...which while it may be a great boat....is as ugly as sin! There is even a picture or two of me working the side-decks offshore. Ideal?? nope..... get rid of them??? NO WAY! And you can return that opinion and receive a 100% refund for what you paid for it!! LOL :-)

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Re: M_Boats: 6th Lake Havasu
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 04 Jan '13

04 Jan '13

Joe, No way!! Get registered up! Here's the link: _http://www.regonline.com/Register/Checkin.aspx?EventID=1147624_ (http://www.regonline.com/Register/Checkin.aspx?EventID=1147624) We've got enough slips and there are still rooms in town available. For sure try both the resorts as there are always cancellations with a group this large. But if not at London Bridge Resort or the Nautical Inn...there are other places to stay. You can also stay on the boat if you choose and a lot of folks take advantage of that....and ...we have rv camping available as well at the marina. Lot's of choices! Hope we see you here!! :-) Sean

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Re: M_Boats: 6th Lake Havasu
by bownez＠juno.com 04 Jan '13

04 Jan '13

Joe, Dave, I'll be at the Nautical Inn, Feb 13th to the 17th. (boatless). I'd be pleased to meet you Joe. Dave, we can can have a long conversation about the beauty and advantages of small boat sailing! You can bring me up to speed on some of your "Sage" adventures.... Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50e6e5084c25d65081adast02vuc

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Re: M_Boats: 6th Lake Havasu
by W David Scobie 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

my folks just reserved a room, for the last 1/2 of the event (14/15/16 Feb.), at the Day's Inn. my Dad mentioned that not many rooms remain available that are close the the London Bridge Resort (aka, conference central). others are staying at the Nautical Inn (me to name one), London Bridge Resort, and then a few sleeping aboard at the Lake Havasu Marina. Lots of space at the LH Marina ... the challenge is getting a hotel/motel room. IMPORTANT - If you do want a slip Sean asks that, 'PLEASE DO NOT CALL THE LAKE HAVASU MARINA TRYING TO RESERVE A SLIP. They will not take a reservation. Rather indicate on your electronic registration form we fill out in December that you will require a slip at the LHM.' Sean has set up the HPCC www-site with lots of lodging information; look under the 'City Guide' tab. :: Dave Scobie --- On Thu, 1/3/13, Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> wrote: > Is there a concensus on where the out > of town Monty's are staying for this gala event. Or am > I getting too short on time? > Joe > SeaFrog M17 >

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Re: M_Boats: Mainsail
by Larry E Yake 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

I still have the original mainsail around for my 1976 M17 CornDog. Don't suppose you're looking for one as old as your boat, though. ;-) On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:40:19 -0600 "Gary Froeschner" <gfroesch(a)tranquility.net> writes: > I am looking for a used mainsail for my recently acquired 1976 - M17. > I listed it in the classifieds, but have been advised that this > would be a better place to put it. I am looking for a generic > cruising sail, I think. I really don't know enough about sails yet > to choose, or pay for, a new one. Does anybody have one they want > to sell? > >

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Asy Spinnaker
by Mark & Sheri 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

Hello, I sent a message from my cell phone yesterday, but don't see it posted back to me in my home e-mail. I hope I'm not double posting this: I have a 2011 Montgomery 15 and looking to add an asy spin. What dimensions have you found that works best? Girth = 8'? 6' ? Tri-Radial? Luff 15' ? 0.75 oz? Thanks in advance for any opinions you can share. Mark Eichman Oakdale, CA M15 Toy Boat

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Re: M_Boats: Mainsail
by bownez＠juno.com 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

Just like Larry, I have my original too....1976 hull #92. (Corndog's sister). Bones ____________________________________________________________ New Diet Pill Sales Soar New &#39fast acting&#39 diet pill flying off shelves admist consumer frenzy http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50e58d2759776d270133st04vuc

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