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Montgomery 17's, of course
by Thomas Buzzi 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Age three, walking down a blacktop road holding my mother's hand. She is pushing a carriage that holds my baby sister. As we approach a white fence at the turn in the road I hear a sound. As I peek over the bottom rail I am startled to see a large body of water sweeping by. It is a river on its way to wherever rivers end up. The sound it made as it accommodated the rocks in its bed brought back a memory of something I had yet to experience. It was the biggest mass of moving water, besides the bathtub, I had ever seen. Years later, I, now a young lad, walk daily along a beach. The seaside air, sound and smell supply a daily balm to a mind distraught with a violent family life. I just wanted to sail away. I was "Sea struck" just as actor Sterling Hayden had referred to his passion for all things nautical. Finally time and money allowed me to consider building my first "boat in a basement". It was a flat bottomed kayak courtesy of a set of plans from a "Popular Mechanics" magazine article. Naturally I put a sail and leeboards on it. The mast materialized out of a two inch length of aluminum conduit, the rigging, clothesline. It worked, I was hooked. Later on a Charles Whittholtz designed catboat project pulled me away from a college degree. I would rather work with my hands to create in this life anyway. Over the years a successful business provided the means to indulge my passion for sailing. A Montgomery 17 was followed by a 20' Pacific Seacraft Flicka, then a 28'Cape Dory. Finally, mercifully, a 36' S2 racer slaked my desire to continue to go bigger and bigger. It drained my stock of funds and spare time. One day a fellow walked down the dock by my boatslip. We spoke. He wanted to sail to Europe, I wanted to sell my boat. We agreed that for a sum of money he would take over my dream and sail the boat across the deep blue sea. I was done with sailing. Could live without the sound of the water parting to allow my craft to sail by. Would not miss the feel of a sail driven craft as the first breeze wakes her from her becalmed state and makes her tighten up in preparation for her next romp across the waves. No more. Then years later a friend invites me to go on the first sail in his home built boat. I accept the invitation little realizing then what fire in the soul I was playing with. As his rendition of "Nancy's China" shoulders into the waves I suddenly realize, too late, what I have gotten myself into once again. All the old desires, the lure, the majesty of the sea came rushing upon me like a squall line sweeps across the waves from behind. You feel it before you hear and see it and when you glance over the stern on it comes as undeniable and all encompassing as any force you have ever stared at eye to eye. All the thrill returned, cleaned of any past regrets or disappointments of voyages left undone. The reacquaintance with feelings once thought to be dissolved, the peace of mind in realizing once again that this is something I want in my life again, all came rushing back. Older and much wiser I realize that the boat that best fit my needs early on is the very same one that would do so now. Jerry's and Lyle's creation would again have a place in my life. But the fates toy with me. Now that "little boat" seems to be as rare as "hen's teeth". So I scan the listings and and continue to dream. My life in a "cockle shell". Thanks for reading.

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Re: M_Boats: SeaFrog
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Hi Joe, Sorry for your loss. Hope your boat sells quickly. salngail '86 M15 #361 - "Justus" In a message dated 1/27/2013 1:41:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: When storms hit and the winds finally die down a new day different than the days before begin. Life is the same way. When I started my sailing, the first boat I bought was a beautiful NorSea 27, SeaGray. As the years went by my wife's abilities to sail began to evaporate. I realized the possibility of sailing off each winter to warmer climates was further and further out of the question. SeaGray was not getting the kind of use she deserved so I sold her. I still loved sailing and Cindy's agreement to sell SeaGray included buying something that would compliment the sailing grounds here on the coast of North Carolina. I contacted Bob and we began the process of building SeaFrog and for nearly 4 years I have really grown to love this boat. Last November my wife passed away. And so a new day begins. And so I've decided to make some changes in my life that include a liveaboard in the immediate future. So I'm making SeaFrog available. I'm starting here with you guys first. I've gotten so much from this group and have enjoyed the advice and the stories. SeaFrog is a 2008 M17 with a green sheer stripe. It has nearly everything I can think of to make her 'sail away' condition. There are some photos on http://sailseafrog.blogspot.com/ I have additional photos that I can put on a CD or sd card for anyone seriously interested. Here's a list of things on SeaFrog: - 4 opening port lights with screens - tinted lexan drop boards - Idasailor rudder (if you're not familiar with these, they are the cat's meow) - 2 anchors. G7 Guardian w/ 10' SS chain and 120' 1/2" nylon rode and a 15# Manson Supreme 8' chain and 150' 1/2" nylon rode - tan bark sails - CDI roller furling - mast halyard runs back to cockpit w/ Spinlock - Covers for mainsail, hand rails, and winches - reefing lines for 2 reef points - outhaul and topping lift - lazy jacks - Plastimo Mini Contest bulkhead mounted compa - D27 battery - Electrical: panel w/ battery gauge, battery switch, Hella Fan, interior red/white overhead light, running lights, masthead/deck light, 2 12v outlets, battery charger, - VHF radio installed in cabin with full function remote in cockpit - 6 hp Tohatsu Outboard motor w/ 3 gallon remote tank plus 2 1 gallon reserve tanks - 2 fenders - mid ship Shaefer adjustable cleats that run back and forth along the gib track - Pacific trailor with spare tire, all lights are LED, and tongue extension - back stay tensioner - Tiller Tamer - boom vang - fire extinquisher - dock lines - custom made cover (brand new, never used) that covers the entire boat whether on the trailer or moored with the mast up or down. My asking price is $18K as I have over $25K in her. So if you are interested or know anyone that is looking or if some of you run into someone at Havasu that can't live without one, please drop me a line or give me a call at 25525-240-1085. Thanks, and Fair Winds. Joe

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Re: M_Boats: test
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Hi Stan, This one came through and is replied to the list. sal '86 M15 Justus In a message dated 1/27/2013 12:11:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, stevetrapp(a)q.com writes: Sam, The e-mail part of your test worked. Where are you and your Montgomery located? Steve M-15 sail number 335 South Puget Sound ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: M_Boats: test > Test post, Stan

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test
by Stan Susman 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

Test post, Stan

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by Mark Holcomb 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

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by Mark Holcomb 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

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Transom mounted Raymarine ST40 Bidata System
by Ronald McNeil 17 Jan '13

17 Jan '13

I purchased a transom mounted Raymarine ST40 Bidata System but not sure if it's going to work well. After getting it I realize it's not really meant for sailboats. It also appears that it will stick out too far to on center Has anyone mounted one of these units? If so can you give me any suggestions. Thanks, Ron McNeil Jackpot #675

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Standard rig or tall rig
by Jeff Rodgers 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Hi, I am in the process of ordering a larger furling genoa (150%) for my 2006 M17. I have been asked by the sail maker if I have a "standard rig" or a "tall rig". If I don't know (which I don't) they suggest I "run a tape measure up the jib halyard and measure to the sheerline at the deck level(not cabin top) parallel to the mast". Since the boat is in winter storage I am hoping I can get an answer to this question without having to take the boat out of storage and raising the mast. FYI, I currently have a 110% furling genoa made by Elliot/Pattison for the boat when it was bought new by a previous owner. Thanks! Jeff Rodgers

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my M-15
by stevetrapp 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

I own M-15, sail number 335. I have had the boat since new, and have sailed it on various waters of the Pacific NorthWest; Lake Pend Oreille in Idaho, Fern Ridge Resevoir near Eugene, Oregon, Lake Couer D' Alene in Idaho, the Willamette River in Portland, Oregon, and it and I are currently in Olympia, Washington on the South Puget Sound. Frankly, sailing the boat has been more fun than working my way through the internet maze to get to this site. Steve

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Re: M_Boats: my M-15
by Larry E Yake 08 Jan '13

08 Jan '13

Hi Steve, We've sailed many of the same waters. I live in Eastern Washington and sail the big lakes of north Idaho frequently. An annual trip to the San Juan and Gulf Islands is usually the highlight of the summer. Welcome to the group. Larry Yake M17 #200 CornDog On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:46:14 -0800 "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> writes: > I own M-15, sail number 335. I have had the boat since new, and > have sailed it on various waters of the Pacific NorthWest; Lake Pend > Oreille in Idaho, Fern Ridge Resevoir near Eugene, Oregon, Lake > Couer D' Alene in Idaho, the Willamette River in Portland, Oregon, > and it and I are currently in Olympia, Washington on the South Puget > Sound. Frankly, sailing the boat has been more fun than working my > way through the internet maze to get to this site. > Steve > >

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