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Montgomery 15s Available For Sale?
by Henry S. Stewart 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Hi, I am a new member of the group and live in upstate New York. I have not yet ever been in the presence of a Montgomery 15, but I can tell that I would love to own one. I am 59 and have been sailing since I was 14. If anyone knows or hears of a Montgomery 15 for sale in the northeastern U.S., please let me know. I would even love to see a Montgomery 15 "in person", if anyone knows of one near upstate New York. Thanks very much. Sincerely, Henry S. Stewart

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Porta potti
by Tim Erwin 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Thank you all for your input re: porta potti. I did find a new # 135 for around 100 bucks delivered.There are several on eBay if anyone else is looking for a 135 model. Tim Erwin # 641 ( Dark Star ) Sent from my iPad On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:27 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: M15 Porta potti measurement (Howard Audsley) > 2. Re: M15 Porta potti measurement (Prescott, Charles) > 3. Re: M15 Porta potti measurement (wcampion(a)aol.com) > 4. Re: Center-board for 23' (jerry montgomery) > 5. Shipping an M-17 (janisaz(a)comcast.net) > 6. Re: M-17 Wanted to buy: M12 (stevetrapp) > 7. Re: Update 23' (Hughston, Larry@DGS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:42:12 -0500 > From: Howard Audsley <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement > Message-ID: <92515CE4-9D18-4643-A91E-A5EB288ACA39(a)tranquility.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The modern era Oak Bucket? > > http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/05/articles/toilet/index.cfm > > Cabela's sells something similar called a "lugable loo". They also sell a couple versions of the Thetford. > > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:27 PM, W David Scobie wrote: > >> George: >> >> the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. this is the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. i also had a 135 in my '84 M15. >> >> as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued. Theford is making a replacement (model 260) BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact replacement! the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. >> >> so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining stock, or look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). >> >> the 'wag bag' system is an option - >> >> http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet >> >> the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when the v-berth cover is in place. this means you need to set up the unit each time it is used. >> >> another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to fit under the v-berth. there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and seal (do an Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). >> >> >>> We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, >>> 'cause he knows about all this stuff. >> >> sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-( busy buildin' boats :-) (a good thing) >> >> >> --- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> Tim, >>> >>> I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening >>> for a porta potti is the same on both our models. My >>> Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I >>> don't know if it is still made. It is 15" front to >>> back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons). >>> Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so >>> I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" >>> or so difference is not that critical. >>> You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were >>> in vogue awhile back, if they are still >>> available. We can also hope Dave Scobie is >>> not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. >>> >>> Tom Jenkins >>> June Lake, CA >>> >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: >>> >>>> Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera >>>> The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess >>> where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would >>> appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just >>> tell me make and model that fits. >>>> Thanks >>>> Tim Erwin. 2007 m15. ( Dark Star ) # 641 >>>> Rockport, Texas > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:52:39 -0400 > From: "Prescott, Charles" <chuck(a)prescottstone.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement > Message-ID: > <CAPu48AaiviBTPL7QGGnCJZDYdHoJs+4vzmYTpApitiZz9tSN1Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Mr. Howard, > > Excellent solution..or should I say non-"solution" > > Chuck > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Howard Audsley <haudsley(a)tranquility.net>wrote: > >> The modern era Oak Bucket? >> >> http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/05/articles/toilet/index.cfm >> >> Cabela's sells something similar called a "lugable loo". They also sell a >> couple versions of the Thetford. >> >> >> On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:27 PM, W David Scobie wrote: >> >>> George: >>> >>> the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. >> this is the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. i also had a 135 >> in my '84 M15. >>> >>> as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued. Theford is making a >> replacement (model 260) BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact >> replacement! the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. >>> >>> so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining >> stock, or look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). >>> >>> the 'wag bag' system is an option - >>> >>> http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet >>> >>> the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when >> the v-berth cover is in place. this means you need to set up the unit each >> time it is used. >>> >>> another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to >> fit under the v-berth. there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and >> seal (do an Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). >>> >>> >>>> We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, >>>> 'cause he knows about all this stuff. >>> >>> sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-( >> busy buildin' boats :-) (a good thing) >>> >>> >>> --- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening >>>> for a porta potti is the same on both our models. My >>>> Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I >>>> don't know if it is still made. It is 15" front to >>>> back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons). >>>> Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so >>>> I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" >>>> or so difference is not that critical. >>>> You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were >>>> in vogue awhile back, if they are still >>>> available. We can also hope Dave Scobie is >>>> not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. >>>> >>>> Tom Jenkins >>>> June Lake, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera >>>>> The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess >>>> where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would >>>> appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just >>>> tell me make and model that fits. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Tim Erwin. 2007 m15. ( Dark Star ) # 641 >>>>> Rockport, Texas > > > -- > > Prescott Stone Fabricators, Ltd. > > *20 YEARS SERVING THE TRIANGLE* > > www.prescottstone.com email: > info(a)prescottstone.com > > 607 ELLIS ROAD, BLDG. 49-A, DURHAM, NC 27703 > > (919) 598-7509 ? FAX (919) 598-3927 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:55:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement > Message-ID: <8D03B2D4428EA49-1190-3374D(a)webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Tim, > > The Thetford 135 can be retro fitted to fit the well in the M-15. I have a 1982 model and with a quick remolding of the base tank, it's a perfect fit. All you need is a couple gallons of boiling water and 2 beers!! > > Here are the simple steps. > > 1. Place the Thetford 135 in the well on your boat. > 2. Pour in 2 gallons of boiling water into the holding tank. > 3. Sit on your new throne. > 4. Pop open the first beer > 5. Drink beer slowly. > 6. Repeat steps 4 & 5 > 7. Drain cold water from Thetford 135 holding tank. > 8. You now have a perfectly reformed holding tank, ready for use!! > > Good Luck!! > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 1:29 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement > > > George: > the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. this > s the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. i also had a 135 in my '84 > 15. > as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued. Theford is making a > eplacement (model 260) BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact > eplacement! the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. > so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining stock, > r look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). > the 'wag bag' system is an option - > http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet > the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when the > -berth cover is in place. this means you need to set up the unit each time it > s used. > another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to fit > nder the v-berth. there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and seal (do > n Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). > > We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, > 'cause he knows about all this stuff. > sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-( busy > uildin' boats :-) (a good thing) > > -- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: > Tim, > > I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening > for a porta potti is the same on both our models. My > Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I > don't know if it is still made. It is 15" front to > back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons). > Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so > I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" > or so difference is not that critical. > You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were > in vogue awhile back, if they are still > available. We can also hope Dave Scobie is > not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. > > Tom Jenkins > June Lake, CA > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: > >> Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera >> The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess > where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would > appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just > tell me make and model that fits. >> Thanks >> Tim Erwin. 2007 m15. ( Dark Star ) # 641 >> Rockport, Texas > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:24:44 -0700 > From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Center-board for 23' > Message-ID: <45994C5B612A440EA464EE7B2CA9E453@jerryws10> > Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type="original" > > > The CB is in the back yard of the shop of a friend who is a cabinet maker in > Rancho. > > Do you have a pickup? My largest vehicle is a Cherokee, and I don't think > it would fit in. I have a dolly to move it. > > My phone is 606 4619; leave a message or keep trying. I'm free most of the > time. > > jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Bradley" <todd(a)btbuilders.net> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:31 AM > Subject: M_Boats: Center-board for 23' > > >> Hi Jerry - I wanted to follow up and see if you received my previous >> posting. I would like to take you up on your offer and buy the CB from >> you. >> >> >> >> You can e-mail me directly todd(a)btbuilders.net or call me @ 916-616-6870 >> if >> you prefer. >> >> >> >> Please let me know and we can set up a time when I can come down and pick >> it >> up. Hopefully soon, as I put the boat-yard on hold yesterday pending >> picking >> up your CB. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> >> >> Todd Bradley >> >> <mailto:toddbradley@surewest.net> todd(a)btbuilders.net >> >> Cell 916-616-6870 > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 8867 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:54:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: janisaz(a)comcast.net > To: montgomery boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Shipping an M-17 > Message-ID: > <1546344405.506702.1371675244146.JavaMail.root(a)sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > We towed our M17 with a V6 Honda Pilot from California where we bought it to Tucson with no problem but there are no big grades on that stretch of I-10.? We launched with a V6 Rav4 but the trailer hitch is much too low for long distance towing.? Road trips are fun - go for it if you have the time.??? Janis ----- Original Message ----- > From: "montgomery boats-request" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> > To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:31:52 AM > Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 10 > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > ????????montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ????????http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ????????montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ????????montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ?? 1. Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) > ?? 2. Re: Shipping of a M17 (pam and dana) > ?? 3. Re: Shipping of a M17 (W David Scobie) > ?? 4. Center-board for 23' (Todd Bradley) > ?? 5. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) > ?? 6. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) > ?? 7. Re: Shipping of a M17 (W David Scobie) > ?? 8. Any M17s out there? (janisaz(a)comcast.net) > ?? 9. Re: Shipping of a M17 (John Schinnerer) > ??10. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Rik Sandberg) > ??11. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) > ??12. Re: M15 Porta potti measurement (W David Scobie) > ??13. Re: Shipping of a M17 (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:50:46 -0700 > From: Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: <BFC49503-38BB-4290-A0B0-0B93B3924F3F(a)beckybelding.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii > > I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky > > Sent from my iPad > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:02:23 -0700 > From: pam and dana <denko(a)broadstripe.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: <45CE10DF-2B2A-4623-8CB3-9080B6A9D5A6(a)broadstripe.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Becky > If you have access to a big enough truck (midsize) they are extremely ? > easy to tow. ?We bought our boat in northern Calif., bought new tires ? > for it, then towed it to north of Seattle without any problems. Plus, ? > it was a fun "road trip". ?Cheaper than paying a shipper. > > Pam > > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a ? >> shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: > ????????<1371655572.61317.YahooMailClassic(a)web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Becky: > > how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm guessing, Portland OR. > > as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities. ?any vehicle that can handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is adequate. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has >> suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to >> transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:31:24 -0700 > From: "Todd Bradley" <todd(a)btbuilders.net> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Center-board for 23' > Message-ID: <010901ce6d02$0f689f40$2e39ddc0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Jerry - I wanted to follow up and see if you received my previous > posting. I would like to take you up on your offer and buy the CB from you. > > ? > > You can e-mail me directly todd(a)btbuilders.net or call me @ 916-616-6870 if > you prefer. > > ? > > Please let me know and we can set up a time when I can come down and pick it > up. Hopefully soon, as I put the boat-yard on hold yesterday pending picking > up your CB. > > ? > > Thanks! > > ? > > ? > > Todd > > ? > > ? > > Todd Bradley > > ?<mailto:toddbradley@surewest.net> todd(a)btbuilders.net > > Cell 916-616-6870 > > ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:34:55 -0700 > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: <002201ce6d02$8cf6f4c0$a6e4de40$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you for your input...from Colorado to Portland. > Becky > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David > Scobie > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:26 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > > Becky: > > how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm guessing, Portland OR. > > as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities. ?any vehicle that can > handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is adequate. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has >> suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a >> M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:41:20 +0000 > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: > ????????<683891603-1371656479-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-4073802-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> > ???????? > Content-Type: text/plain > > I would looove a fun road trip to pick up the M17...believe me! But this is Colorado to Portland...thank you Pam! :) > Becky > Sent via Becky's BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: pam and dana <denko(a)broadstripe.net> > Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:02:23 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > > Becky > If you have access to a big enough truck (midsize) they are extremely ? > easy to tow. ?We bought our boat in northern Calif., bought new tires ? > for it, then towed it to north of Seattle without any problems. Plus, ? > it was a fun "road trip". ?Cheaper than paying a shipper. > > Pam > > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a ? >> shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:03:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: > ????????<1371657794.63557.YahooMailClassic(a)web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Becky: > > did you buy the M17 that was for sale in Estes Park? ?depending on your driving patterns the trip can be done in six/seven days ... maybe even five if you drive long days and switch with a co-pilot. > > very good road between Portland and Colorado. ?i've driven all the Interstates you would travel in the past two years ... with boats in tow. > > man ... if i could 'haul a double' next month i would helping you out.? i'm going from Golden, CO, to Monterey, CA, for the Cruiser Challenge and then heading up to Port Townsend, WA. > > > consider uShip - www.uship.com > > or do an internet search for 'boat shipping colorado'.? (i just did this search and found _lots_ and received lots of hits. > > shipping is a matter of how fast (quicker = more $) and what type of transport (enclosed trailer ($$$), flatbed ($$) or behind the hauler's truck using boat's trailer ($)).? the arrangements are not difficult once you figure out how much $ you are willing to pay.? i shipped a customer's boat overseas with no difficulty (couple of phone calls, couple of emails, and FAX). > > if you wish to collect her yourself the M17 tows very well (good manners and not 'super heavy'). > > > :: Dave Scobie > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > > >> Thank you for your input...from >> Colorado to Portland. >> Becky >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: On Behalf Of W David Scobie >> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:26 AM >> >> Becky: >> >> how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm >> guessing, Portland OR. >> >> as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities.? any >> vehicle that can >> handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is >> adequate. >> ? >> >> :: Dave Scobie >> >> --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am wondering if anyone has >>> suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company >> to transport a >>> M17 from another state? >>> Many thanks, >>> Becky > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:15:01 +0000 (UTC) > From: janisaz(a)comcast.net > To: montgomery boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Any M17s out there? > Message-ID: > ????????<455556904.494638.1371658501995.JavaMail.root(a)sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> > ???????? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Yes, lots I suspect.?? We are a NAFTA? M17- ?permanent home in Tucson, sail in Lake Havasu and Mexico and currently moo r ed in British Columbia on Howe Sound.?? I understand there was a recent small fleet who w ent from Fri day Harbor to Desolation Sound.? > > > > Janis Johnson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "montgomery boats-request" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> > To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:10:35 AM > Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9 > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > ????????montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ????????http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ????????montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ????????montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ?? 1. IDA Rudder (Theodore Weidenbach) > ?? 2. Re: IDA Rudder (Rick Davies) > ?? 3. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (stevetrapp) > ?? 4. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) > ?? 5. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) > ?? 6. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (stevetrapp) > ?? 7. Re: IDA Rudder (W David Scobie) > ?? 8. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (W David Scobie) > ?? 9. Re: Scams (bownez(a)juno.com) > ??10. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Becky Belding) > ??11. Re: IDA Rudder (Thomas Buzzi) > ??12. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Thomas Buzzi) > ??13. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Thomas Buzzi) > ??14. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Stan Susman) > ??15. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) > ??16. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Becky Belding) > ??17. Portland Oregon (Becky Belding) > ??18. Re: Portland Oregon (Tony Cox) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:02:54 -0500 > From: Theodore Weidenbach <weid0069(a)umn.edu> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: IDA Rudder > Message-ID: > ????????<CAMc_ootxhLCxi_iXZ8J_MzEzd9p-fK5Fqa4qUkzLTqmaUAdO+g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > HI all, > > I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my > rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. > ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? > > Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! > Thanks, > ted > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:31:41 -0400 > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder > Message-ID: > ????????<CA+0OvVjQ5jUZurt+x-bMxqkA85dzxRS+rZx8_7_49g_eTky27g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Ted, > > I bought a Ruddercraft Unifoil kickup rudder for my M17 this spring, and so > far have nothing but good to say about it. ?It's solidly built and easy to > raise and lower. ?The hydraulic spring piston holds it down, and, after > hitting an obstruction (like the bottom), it returns to vertical by itself. > ?It replaced an older manual IdaSailer rudder, and there's no comparison. > ?Ruddercraft is also a good company to do business with. ?Are you putting > it on an M17? > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Theodore Weidenbach wrote: > >> HI all, >> >> I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my >> rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. >> ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? >> >> Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! >> Thanks, >> ted > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:42:11 -0700 > From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <8004A6C7E66E46DA9309D797354C722D@STEVEEW> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" > > ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >> >> >> Charlie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:01:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <8D03AA8100AED5D-68C-23F29(a)webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Steve, > > Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 is considered a dink. > > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, > 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >> >> >> Charlie > > ? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:12:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <8D03AA9964E1F70-68C-24007(a)webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Try this link................ > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101 > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wcampion <wcampion(a)aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > > Steve, > > Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a > pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 > is considered a dink. > > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, > 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >> >> >> Charlie > > ? > > ? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:26:31 -0700 > From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <DE402699324A46B1A1CB81F2BB6F2EDE@STEVEEW> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="utf-8" > > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wcampion(a)aol.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > > Try this link................ > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101 > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wcampion <wcampion(a)aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > > Steve, > > Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a > pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 > is considered a dink. > > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, > 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >> >> >> Charlie > > ? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:04:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder > Message-ID: > ????????<1371611091.32052.YahooMailClassic(a)web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ted: > > my guess, as i can't remember from your prior posts, is you have an M15 ... and the old M17 rudders are one piece are one solid piece of mahogany. > > i'm guessing that your rudder compression posts need to be tightened just a bit. ?if the cheeks are just a bit too loose if feels as if the rudder and/or tiller is bending. ?what is really happen is there is just a little slop between the three components (tiller, cheeks, rudder). > > turn all the bolts about 1/16th of a turn and see if this helps. if not enough turn another 1/16th. ?tighten so the tiller can still raise/lower the rudder. this will better compress the cheeks and make the tiller-to-rudder connection more firm. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com > > > --- On Tue, 6/18/13, Theodore Weidenbach <weid0069(a)umn.edu> wrote: > > >> HI all, >> >> I am considering buying an IDA rudder.? Is it worth >> it?? I feel like my >> rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel >> very strong. >> ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be >> better? >> >> Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! >> Thanks, >> ted > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:07:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: > ????????<1371611273.98349.YahooMailClassic(a)web121701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > correct, the M12 is considered one of Jerry's 'dinks'. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > > --- On Tue, 6/18/13, wcampion(a)aol.com <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> ... >> >> I do believe the M-12 is >> considered a dink. >> >> ... >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm >> >> >> ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat?? >> Got a photo to e-mail? >> ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I >> know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, >> 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:44:46 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Scams > Message-ID: <20130618.224446.21309.1(a)webmail06.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Classic scam Connie. > They follow a pattern. > Run away. > Thanks for letting us know your experience (again!). > > Buddy Bones > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. > http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:17:39 -0700 > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <015d01ce6cac$52167020$f6435060$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" > > Excuse me....I am not sure exactly how to post to you all. I apologize for > the interruption in your communications. > Has anyone had especially good experience having a M17 shipped/transported > from another state? > Suggestions? > Becky > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David > Scobie > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:08 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > correct, the M12 is considered one of Jerry's 'dinks'. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > > --- On Tue, 6/18/13, wcampion(a)aol.com <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> ... >> >> I do believe the M-12 is >> considered a dink. >> >> ... >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm >> >> >> ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? Got a photo to e-mail? >> ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I know the 10 is a dingy, and >> the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:33:40 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder > Message-ID: > ????????<CA+TbpAUQNAtXODZCr+qVfwX0tSjodCUAQde+_bR6dqZv-uanUA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Rick, > Glad your new rudder is working out for you. I haven't installed your old > one yet. May get one of those new fangled ones myself some day. > Regards, > Tom > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Ted, >> >> I bought a Ruddercraft Unifoil kickup rudder for my M17 this spring, and so >> far have nothing but good to say about it. ?It's solidly built and easy to >> raise and lower. ?The hydraulic spring piston holds it down, and, after >> hitting an obstruction (like the bottom), it returns to vertical by itself. >> ?It replaced an older manual IdaSailer rudder, and there's no comparison. >> ?Ruddercraft is also a good company to do business with. ?Are you putting >> it on an M17? >> >> Rick >> M17 #633 >> Lynne L >> >> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Theodore Weidenbach wrote: >> >>> HI all, >>> >>> I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my >>> rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. >>> ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? >>> >>> Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! >>> Thanks, >>> ted > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:35:04 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: > ????????<CA+TbpAVPVwgSD6Zf9y=KJBzE3dRAk-DP2Pm-5=+sKj_yLhD=uw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Can you put a sail on the ten or is it definitely designed as a dinghy > only? I guess leeboards would be attached somehow. > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? >> ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the >> 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> Charlie, >> I know of a nice one but its in California >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing >> to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached >> at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >>> >>> >>> Charlie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:37:18 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: > ????????<CA+TbpAV13js04nUy-OirAradF3vUaEq7s7hqG73FVm49tKzCUA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has > one of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. > Tom M-17 "waitin on a name". > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Steve, >> >> Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give >> you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do >> believe the M-12 is considered a dink. >> >> >> http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html >> >> >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? >> ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the >> 15, >> 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> Charlie, >> I know of a nice one but its in California >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to >> travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at >> <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >>> >>> >>> Charlie > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:39:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Stan Susman <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: > ????????<1371645598.6307.YahooMailNeo(a)web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The 10 is a fine sailing dingy > > > > > ________________________________ > ?From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:35 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > ? > > Can you put a sail on the ten or is it definitely designed as a dinghy > only? I guess leeboards would be attached somehow. > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> ? ? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat?? Got a photo to e-mail? >> ? ? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I know the 10 is a dingy, and the >> 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> Charlie, >> I know of a nice one but its in California >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing >> to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached >> at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >>> >>> >>> Charlie > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <8D03B039BC72662-1190-2FA06(a)webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > The M-12 I saw last year in Missouri was a bit rough from what I remember. ?I already had 2 project boats, so I decided to pass on the M-12 project. ? > > As far as the M-10 goes. ?I have one and it is definitely a sailing dinghy. ?It's a real nice sailing boat that is easily rigged and very responsive. ?Very fun to sail on a nice afternoon on the lake. > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has > ne of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. > om M-17 "waitin on a name". > > n Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ?Steve, > > ?Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give > ?you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do > ?believe the M-12 is considered a dink. > > > ?http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html > > > > ?Skip > > > > > ?-----Original Message----- > ?From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > ?To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > ?Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the > ?15, > ?17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > ?Thanx, > ?Steve > ?M-15 # 335 > > ?----- Original Message ----- > ?From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > ?To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > ?Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?Charlie, > ?I know of a nice one but its in California > > ?Sent from my iPhone > > ?On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > > ?> Hi all, > ?> > ?> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > ?travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > ?<charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > ?> > ?> > ?> Charlie > ?> > ?> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:35:43 +0000 > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: > ????????<1242872436-1371648942-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2022866773-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> > ???????? > Content-Type: text/plain > > Portland OR...I am wondering if there are any M17 owners here? > Thank you! > Becky > Sent via Becky's BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:54 > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > The M-12 I saw last year in Missouri was a bit rough from what I remember. ?I already had 2 project boats, so I decided to pass on the M-12 project. ? > > As far as the M-10 goes. ?I have one and it is definitely a sailing dinghy. ?It's a real nice sailing boat that is easily rigged and very responsive. ?Very fun to sail on a nice afternoon on the lake. > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has > ne of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. > om M-17 "waitin on a name". > > n Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ?Steve, > > ?Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give > ?you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do > ?believe the M-12 is considered a dink. > > > ?http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html > > > > ?Skip > > > > > ?-----Original Message----- > ?From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > ?To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > ?Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ?? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the > ?15, > ?17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > ?Thanx, > ?Steve > ?M-15 # 335 > > ?----- Original Message ----- > ?From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > ?To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > ?Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ?Charlie, > ?I know of a nice one but its in California > > ?Sent from my iPhone > > ?On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > > ?> Hi all, > ?> > ?> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > ?travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > ?<charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > ?> > ?> > ?> Charlie > ?> > ?> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:54:46 -0700 > From: Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Portland Oregon > Message-ID: <6AEBF6C7-259A-4A2D-9B9E-73F8A9FA3293(a)beckybelding.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii > > Are there any M17 owners here? > Becky > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:08:53 -0700 > From: Tony Cox <cox.tjg(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Portland Oregon > Message-ID: <4634FCEB-3BC5-4B89-A364-9C61D7835FB1(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii > > The woods is full of em, Becky. I am a M17 owner just south of you in Silverton, Or. > Tony Cox > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > >> Are there any M17 owners here? >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9 > ************************************************ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: <51C1E132.3010602(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com > and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA > this way. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:02:40 -0500 > From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1(a)gmail.com> > To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: > ????????<CACkX7Z1tLi=Kxz3b28HS60_27vZr3EerK86JR4HfS5AYMyP8eQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Becky, > > So, are you saying that you don't tow your boat now? > > One mile is pretty much no different than the rest. Just more of them in a > row. > > We used to tow our Rhodes 22, 4700 lb tow weight, with a Chevy S-10. Towed > it to Kentucky lake and back twice, 875 miles one way and never had a > problem. An R-22 weighs almost twice what an M-17 weighs. > > I'd just hook it up and go. > > Rik > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net>wrote: > >> You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.comand similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA >> this way. >> >> cheers, >> John S. >> >> >> On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >> >>> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a >>> shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >>> Many thanks, >>> Becky >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> ------------------------------**-------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john(a)eco-living.net >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.**com <http://sociocracyconsulting.com> > > > -- > > The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that > they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left > concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to > survive. ? Thomas Sowell > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:03:36 +0000 > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: john(a)eco-living.net, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: > ????????<877582520-1371661415-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-429124346-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> > ???????? > Content-Type: text/plain > > Thanks John...any chance you could find out which company he used? > Becky > Sent via Becky's BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Reply-To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > > You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com > and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA > this way. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:27:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement > Message-ID: > ????????<1371662874.58338.YahooMailClassic(a)web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > George: > > the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. ?this is the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. ?i also had a 135 in my '84 M15. > > as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued.? Theford is making a replacement (model 260)???BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact replacement!? the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. > > so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining stock, or look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). > > the 'wag bag' system is an option - > > http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet > > the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when the v-berth cover is in place.? this means you need to set up the unit each time it is used. > > another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to fit under the v-berth.? there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and seal (do an Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). > > >> We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, >> 'cause he knows about all this stuff. > > sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-(? busy buildin' boats :-) (a good thing) > > > --- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: > >> >> Tim, >> >> I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening >> for a porta potti is the same on both our models.? My >> Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I >> don't know if it is still made.? It is 15" front to >> back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons).? >> Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so >> I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" >> or so difference is not that critical. >> You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were >> in vogue awhile back, if they are still >> available.???We can also hope Dave Scobie is >> not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. >> >> Tom Jenkins >> June Lake, CA >> >> >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: >> >>> Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera >>> The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess >> where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would >> appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just >> tell me make and model that fits. >>> Thanks >>> Tim Erwin. 2007 m15.? ( Dark Star ) # 641 >>> Rockport, Texas > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:30:57 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > Message-ID: <51C1EAD1.5070405(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > He went through uship.com - it is basically an online "brokerage" of > sorts for independent haulers. You indicate what you want to > move/ship/haul and from where to where and when and then haulers make > offers/bids. So I could find out exactly who hauled his trailer, and, > it's more about finding the right person for your needs rather than a > specific hauler that did some other job for someone else (unless they > happen to be a bidder on your job). > > cheers, > John S. > > On 06/19/2013 10:03 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >> Thanks John...any chance you could find out which company he used? >> Becky >> Sent via Becky's BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Reply-To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 >> >> You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com >> and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA >> this way. >> >> cheers, >> John S. >> >> On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >>> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >>> Many thanks, >>> Becky >>> >>> Sent from my iPad > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 10 > ************************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:16:27 -0700 > From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: <becky(a)beckybelding.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 Wanted to buy: M12 > Message-ID: <8FDE08D415874EB49254D7FA51F4CD91@STEVEEW> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Becky, > There is an M-17 at Swantown Marina in Olympia, about 110 miles North of Portland on I-5. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > >> Portland OR...I am wondering if there are any M17 owners here? >> Thank you! >> Becky >> Sent via Becky's BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wcampion(a)aol.com >> Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:54 >> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> The M-12 I saw last year in Missouri was a bit rough from what I remember. I already had 2 project boats, so I decided to pass on the M-12 project. >> >> As far as the M-10 goes. I have one and it is definitely a sailing dinghy. It's a real nice sailing boat that is easily rigged and very responsive. Very fun to sail on a nice afternoon on the lake. >> >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has >> ne of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. >> om M-17 "waitin on a name". >> >> n Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: >> Steve, >> >> Here is a link to an M-12. It's an old listing, however, it should give >> you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. I do >> believe the M-12 is considered a dink. >> >> >> http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html >> >> >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? Got a photo to e-mail? >> I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. I know the 10 is a dingy, and the >> 15, >> 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. >> Thanx, >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 >> >> >> Charlie, >> I know of a nice one but its in California >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to >> travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at >> <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. >>> >>> >>> Charlie > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:26:05 +0000 > From: "Hughston, Larry@DGS" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Update 23' > Message-ID: > <CFCE3303070E064F91C3FCDDB81C7F1103FF202E(a)057-SN2MPN1-003.057d.mgd.msft.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Todd, I am an owner of a 1981 production M-15. I am here in Sacramento and have not sailed in quite a while. Do you sail on Folsom Lake? > Send some images of the work you are doing. I had to have (2006) my original CB pulled and replaced by Morrison Marine. It was not cheap but they did a good job. I replaced the CB pin with a 5/8" pin, stainless bolt, then finished out the keel with 2 part primer then 2 part finish epoxy (color match was "cream") from West Marine. I can never make my rig up time less than one full hour doing it alone. Just too many details to think about. > > Fair Winds Todd, Larry Hughston M-15 Old 189 hull # > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of George Iemmolo > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:44 PM > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Update 23' > > Sure looks great I am sure she will sail/serve you well in the years ahead. > > George > Merry Helen M15 #602 > 'We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust our Sails' > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Todd Bradley > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:17 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Update 23' > > Hi everyone - thought I would post a brief update on my progress (journey) on the boat currently know as Ce Cee. > > > > A week or so ago, I went to pick up the new Pacific trailer so I could get the boat on a trailer and closer to me. This would make it easier to do the work (she is in San Francisco bay area and I am in Sacramento about 2 hours away). When we tried to get her on the trailer the center-board was stuck down. After trying again to raise the CB (with more force this time) we broke off one of the blocks the pulley cable runs through. So, plan 'B'.. > time to hire professionals. I went over to the boat yard and got on the schedule to get the boat hauled and see if we could get the CB to budge. > > > > I ended up having the boat yard pull the CB. I had them load it up in my truck and I was off to the sandblaster. I returned a few days later with the sandblasted CB. I made sure we had it set-up that we could get a primer coat on the raw CB within hours of the sandblasting (picked this from Sean's postings on his site. Thanks Sean). I decided to bite the bullet and pay the yard to get the CB faired and painted up also. This should be complete late this week and I'll head back down with the trailer and pick her up. > > > > The hull looks in pretty good shape. No blisters that we could see! > > > > I can wait to get her in my driveway so I can start doing some of the other repairs! > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 11 > *************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: Puget Sound Montgomery 15s Available For Sale?
by stevetrapp 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Henry, 1985, but by the time it was shipped to the dealer and I persuaded my credit union to finace it, the title and registration indicate 1986. Look at the last 2 digits of the hull serial number, located in the upper righthand corner of the transom, those digits indicate the year of manufacture. Also, the sail numbers of the early Montgomery boats indicate the sequence of building, mine was the 335th that Jerry built. Steve M-15 # 335 P.S. right Jerry? ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry S. Stewart To: stevetrapp Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:23 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Puget Sound Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? A great description of the area! What year is your Montgomery 15? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: stevetrapp(a)q.com To: henry_s_stewart(a)hotmail.com CC: montgomery_boats(a)xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Puget Sound Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:18:16 -0700 Puget Sound has many, many inlets and bays and islands that are good for cruising and gunkholing, and sight seeing because it is situated between the Cascade Mountains and Olympic Mountains with vistas of several snow covered peaks, along with vistas of the Seattle waterfront and other cities. However, a navigation concern are the ferries, which are a principle means of public transportation in the area. And no, I did not get a commission from the chamber of commerce for the above paragraph, I like the area, and live here by choice. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry S. Stewart To: stevetrapp Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:52 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? Hi, Steve, Thanks very much for responding and for sending the photo of your boat. It looks very nice and well-situated in a very nice marina. It is great to be in contact with people across the country about such great boats. I have heard that Puget Sound is a great place to sail. Best wishes, Sincerely, Henry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stevetrapp(a)q.com To: henry_s_stewart(a)hotmail.com CC: montgomery_boats(a)xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:35:47 -0700 Henry, Perhaps your interest in M-15s extends to a recent photo an M-15? This photo of my M-15 at a marina on Puget Sound in Washington State may give you an idea of what an M-15 looks like. It is not for sale, I plan to continue to enjoy it, and it is located across the country from you, but I thought you might be interested in a photo. Steve M-15 # 335 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Re: M_Boats: Puget Sound Montgomery 15s Available For Sale?
by stevetrapp 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Puget Sound has many, many inlets and bays and islands that are good for cruising and gunkholing, and sight seeing because it is situated between the Cascade Mountains and Olympic Mountains with vistas of several snow covered peaks, along with vistas of the Seattle waterfront and other cities. However, a navigation concern are the ferries, which are a principle means of public transportation in the area. And no, I did not get a commission from the chamber of commerce for the above paragraph, I like the area, and live here by choice. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry S. Stewart To: stevetrapp Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:52 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? Hi, Steve, Thanks very much for responding and for sending the photo of your boat. It looks very nice and well-situated in a very nice marina. It is great to be in contact with people across the country about such great boats. I have heard that Puget Sound is a great place to sail. Best wishes, Sincerely, Henry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: stevetrapp(a)q.com To: henry_s_stewart(a)hotmail.com CC: montgomery_boats(a)xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 15s Available For Sale? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:35:47 -0700 Henry, Perhaps your interest in M-15s extends to a recent photo an M-15? This photo of my M-15 at a marina on Puget Sound in Washington State may give you an idea of what an M-15 looks like. It is not for sale, I plan to continue to enjoy it, and it is located across the country from you, but I thought you might be interested in a photo. Steve M-15 # 335 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Montgomery 15s Available For Sale?
by stevetrapp 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Henry, Perhaps your interest in M-15s extends to a recent photo an M-15? This photo of my M-15 at a marina on Puget Sound in Washington State may give you an idea of what an M-15 looks like. It is not for sale, I plan to continue to enjoy it, and it is located across the country from you, but I thought you might be interested in a photo. Steve M-15 # 335 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Update 23'
by Todd Bradley 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

Hi everyone - thought I would post a brief update on my progress (journey) on the boat currently know as Ce Cee. A week or so ago, I went to pick up the new Pacific trailer so I could get the boat on a trailer and closer to me. This would make it easier to do the work (she is in San Francisco bay area and I am in Sacramento about 2 hours away). When we tried to get her on the trailer the center-board was stuck down. After trying again to raise the CB (with more force this time) we broke off one of the blocks the pulley cable runs through. So, plan 'B'.. time to hire professionals. I went over to the boat yard and got on the schedule to get the boat hauled and see if we could get the CB to budge. I ended up having the boat yard pull the CB. I had them load it up in my truck and I was off to the sandblaster. I returned a few days later with the sandblasted CB. I made sure we had it set-up that we could get a primer coat on the raw CB within hours of the sandblasting (picked this from Sean's postings on his site. Thanks Sean). I decided to bite the bullet and pay the yard to get the CB faired and painted up also. This should be complete late this week and I'll head back down with the trailer and pick her up. The hull looks in pretty good shape. No blisters that we could see! I can wait to get her in my driveway so I can start doing some of the other repairs! Todd

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Wanted to buy: M12
by Charlie Fortner 19 Jun '13

19 Jun '13

Hi all, I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. Charlie

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Shipping an M-17
by janisaz＠comcast.net 19 Jun '13

19 Jun '13

We towed our M17 with a V6 Honda Pilot from California where we bought it to Tucson with no problem but there are no big grades on that stretch of I-10. We launched with a V6 Rav4 but the trailer hitch is much too low for long distance towing. Road trips are fun - go for it if you have the time. Janis ----- Original Message ----- From: "montgomery boats-request" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:31:52 AM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 10 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) 2. Re: Shipping of a M17 (pam and dana) 3. Re: Shipping of a M17 (W David Scobie) 4. Center-board for 23' (Todd Bradley) 5. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) 6. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) 7. Re: Shipping of a M17 (W David Scobie) 8. Any M17s out there? (janisaz(a)comcast.net) 9. Re: Shipping of a M17 (John Schinnerer) 10. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Rik Sandberg) 11. Re: Shipping of a M17 (Becky Belding) 12. Re: M15 Porta potti measurement (W David Scobie) 13. Re: Shipping of a M17 (John Schinnerer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:50:46 -0700 From: Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <BFC49503-38BB-4290-A0B0-0B93B3924F3F(a)beckybelding.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? Many thanks, Becky Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:02:23 -0700 From: pam and dana <denko(a)broadstripe.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <45CE10DF-2B2A-4623-8CB3-9080B6A9D5A6(a)broadstripe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Becky If you have access to a big enough truck (midsize) they are extremely easy to tow. We bought our boat in northern Calif., bought new tires for it, then towed it to north of Seattle without any problems. Plus, it was a fun "road trip". Cheaper than paying a shipper. Pam On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a > shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky > > Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <1371655572.61317.YahooMailClassic(a)web121706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Becky: how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm guessing, Portland OR. as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities. any vehicle that can handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is adequate. :: Dave Scobie --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has > suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to > transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:31:24 -0700 From: "Todd Bradley" <todd(a)btbuilders.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Center-board for 23' Message-ID: <010901ce6d02$0f689f40$2e39ddc0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Jerry - I wanted to follow up and see if you received my previous posting. I would like to take you up on your offer and buy the CB from you. You can e-mail me directly todd(a)btbuilders.net or call me @ 916-616-6870 if you prefer. Please let me know and we can set up a time when I can come down and pick it up. Hopefully soon, as I put the boat-yard on hold yesterday pending picking up your CB. Thanks! Todd Todd Bradley <mailto:toddbradley@surewest.net> todd(a)btbuilders.net Cell 916-616-6870 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:34:55 -0700 From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <002201ce6d02$8cf6f4c0$a6e4de40$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you for your input...from Colorado to Portland. Becky -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:26 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Becky: how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm guessing, Portland OR. as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities. any vehicle that can handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is adequate. :: Dave Scobie --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has > suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a > M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:41:20 +0000 From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <683891603-1371656479-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-4073802-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain I would looove a fun road trip to pick up the M17...believe me! But this is Colorado to Portland...thank you Pam! :) Becky Sent via Becky's BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: pam and dana <denko(a)broadstripe.net> Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:02:23 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Becky If you have access to a big enough truck (midsize) they are extremely easy to tow. We bought our boat in northern Calif., bought new tires for it, then towed it to north of Seattle without any problems. Plus, it was a fun "road trip". Cheaper than paying a shipper. Pam On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a > shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky > > Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <1371657794.63557.YahooMailClassic(a)web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Becky: did you buy the M17 that was for sale in Estes Park? depending on your driving patterns the trip can be done in six/seven days ... maybe even five if you drive long days and switch with a co-pilot. very good road between Portland and Colorado. i've driven all the Interstates you would travel in the past two years ... with boats in tow. man ... if i could 'haul a double' next month i would helping you out.? i'm going from Golden, CO, to Monterey, CA, for the Cruiser Challenge and then heading up to Port Townsend, WA. consider uShip - www.uship.com or do an internet search for 'boat shipping colorado'.? (i just did this search and found _lots_ and received lots of hits. shipping is a matter of how fast (quicker = more $) and what type of transport (enclosed trailer ($$$), flatbed ($$) or behind the hauler's truck using boat's trailer ($)).? the arrangements are not difficult once you figure out how much $ you are willing to pay.? i shipped a customer's boat overseas with no difficulty (couple of phone calls, couple of emails, and FAX). if you wish to collect her yourself the M17 tows very well (good manners and not 'super heavy'). :: Dave Scobie --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > Thank you for your input...from > Colorado to Portland. > Becky > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of W David Scobie > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:26 AM > > Becky: > > how far are you wanting to haul?? from where to, i'm > guessing, Portland OR. > > as Pam wrote you don't need 'big truck' abilities.? any > vehicle that can > handle up to 2500 lbs and a tongue weight up to 250 lbs is > adequate. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > --- On Wed, 6/19/13, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> > wrote: > > > I am wondering if anyone has > > suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company > to transport a > > M17 from another state? > > Many thanks, > > Becky > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:15:01 +0000 (UTC) From: janisaz(a)comcast.net To: montgomery boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Any M17s out there? Message-ID: <455556904.494638.1371658501995.JavaMail.root(a)sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yes, lots I suspect.?? We are a NAFTA? M17- ?permanent home in Tucson, sail in Lake Havasu and Mexico and currently moo r ed in British Columbia on Howe Sound.?? I understand there was a recent small fleet who w ent from Fri day Harbor to Desolation Sound.? Janis Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "montgomery boats-request" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:10:35 AM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to ????????montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ????????http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ????????montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at ????????montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: ?? 1. IDA Rudder (Theodore Weidenbach) ?? 2. Re: IDA Rudder (Rick Davies) ?? 3. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (stevetrapp) ?? 4. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) ?? 5. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) ?? 6. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (stevetrapp) ?? 7. Re: IDA Rudder (W David Scobie) ?? 8. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (W David Scobie) ?? 9. Re: Scams (bownez(a)juno.com) ??10. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Becky Belding) ??11. Re: IDA Rudder (Thomas Buzzi) ??12. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Thomas Buzzi) ??13. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Thomas Buzzi) ??14. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Stan Susman) ??15. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (wcampion(a)aol.com) ??16. Re: Wanted to buy: M12 (Becky Belding) ??17. Portland Oregon (Becky Belding) ??18. Re: Portland Oregon (Tony Cox) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:02:54 -0500 From: Theodore Weidenbach <weid0069(a)umn.edu> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: IDA Rudder Message-ID: ????????<CAMc_ootxhLCxi_iXZ8J_MzEzd9p-fK5Fqa4qUkzLTqmaUAdO+g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 HI all, I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! Thanks, ted ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:31:41 -0400 From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder Message-ID: ????????<CA+0OvVjQ5jUZurt+x-bMxqkA85dzxRS+rZx8_7_49g_eTky27g(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ted, I bought a Ruddercraft Unifoil kickup rudder for my M17 this spring, and so far have nothing but good to say about it. ?It's solidly built and easy to raise and lower. ?The hydraulic spring piston holds it down, and, after hitting an obstruction (like the bottom), it returns to vertical by itself. ?It replaced an older manual IdaSailer rudder, and there's no comparison. ?Ruddercraft is also a good company to do business with. ?Are you putting it on an M17? Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Theodore Weidenbach wrote: > HI all, > > I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my > rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. > ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? > > Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! > Thanks, > ted > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:42:11 -0700 From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <8004A6C7E66E46DA9309D797354C722D@STEVEEW> Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. Thanx, Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Charlie, I know of a nice one but its in California Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: wcampion(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <8D03AA8100AED5D-68C-23F29(a)webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Steve, Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 is considered a dink. http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? Skip -----Original Message----- From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. Thanx, Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Charlie, I know of a nice one but its in California Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > Charlie > > ? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: wcampion(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <8D03AA9964E1F70-68C-24007(a)webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Try this link................ http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101 Skip -----Original Message----- From: wcampion <wcampion(a)aol.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Steve, Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 is considered a dink. http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? Skip -----Original Message----- From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. Thanx, Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Charlie, I know of a nice one but its in California Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > Charlie > > ? ? ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:26:31 -0700 From: "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <DE402699324A46B1A1CB81F2BB6F2EDE@STEVEEW> Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="utf-8" Thanx, Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: <wcampion(a)aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Try this link................ http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101 Skip -----Original Message----- From: wcampion <wcampion(a)aol.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 10:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Steve, Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do believe the M-12 is considered a dink. http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html? Skip -----Original Message----- From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. Thanx, Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Charlie, I know of a nice one but its in California Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > Charlie > > ? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:04:51 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder Message-ID: ????????<1371611091.32052.YahooMailClassic(a)web121703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ted: my guess, as i can't remember from your prior posts, is you have an M15 ... and the old M17 rudders are one piece are one solid piece of mahogany. i'm guessing that your rudder compression posts need to be tightened just a bit. ?if the cheeks are just a bit too loose if feels as if the rudder and/or tiller is bending. ?what is really happen is there is just a little slop between the three components (tiller, cheeks, rudder). turn all the bolts about 1/16th of a turn and see if this helps. if not enough turn another 1/16th. ?tighten so the tiller can still raise/lower the rudder. this will better compress the cheeks and make the tiller-to-rudder connection more firm. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Tue, 6/18/13, Theodore Weidenbach <weid0069(a)umn.edu> wrote: > HI all, > > I am considering buying an IDA rudder.? Is it worth > it?? I feel like my > rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel > very strong. > ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be > better? > > Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! > Thanks, > ted > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:07:53 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: ????????<1371611273.98349.YahooMailClassic(a)web121701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 correct, the M12 is considered one of Jerry's 'dinks'. :: Dave Scobie --- On Tue, 6/18/13, wcampion(a)aol.com <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ... > > I do believe the M-12 is > considered a dink. > > ... > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > > > ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat?? > Got a photo to e-mail? > ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I > know the 10 is a dingy, and the 15, > 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:44:46 GMT From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Scams Message-ID: <20130618.224446.21309.1(a)webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Classic scam Connie. They follow a pattern. Run away. Thanks for letting us know your experience (again!). Buddy Bones ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:17:39 -0700 From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <015d01ce6cac$52167020$f6435060$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset="iso-8859-1" Excuse me....I am not sure exactly how to post to you all. I apologize for the interruption in your communications. Has anyone had especially good experience having a M17 shipped/transported from another state? Suggestions? Becky -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 correct, the M12 is considered one of Jerry's 'dinks'. :: Dave Scobie --- On Tue, 6/18/13, wcampion(a)aol.com <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ... > > I do believe the M-12 is > considered a dink. > > ... > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > > > ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? Got a photo to e-mail? > ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I know the 10 is a dingy, and > the 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:33:40 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: IDA Rudder Message-ID: ????????<CA+TbpAUQNAtXODZCr+qVfwX0tSjodCUAQde+_bR6dqZv-uanUA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rick, Glad your new rudder is working out for you. I haven't installed your old one yet. May get one of those new fangled ones myself some day. Regards, Tom On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Ted, > > I bought a Ruddercraft Unifoil kickup rudder for my M17 this spring, and so > far have nothing but good to say about it. ?It's solidly built and easy to > raise and lower. ?The hydraulic spring piston holds it down, and, after > hitting an obstruction (like the bottom), it returns to vertical by itself. > ?It replaced an older manual IdaSailer rudder, and there's no comparison. > ?Ruddercraft is also a good company to do business with. ?Are you putting > it on an M17? > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Theodore Weidenbach wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > I am considering buying an IDA rudder. ?Is it worth it? ?I feel like my > > rudder assembly is weak and bends and twists, doesn't feel very strong. > > ?Would you consider the IDA (ruddercraft) rudder to be better? > > > > Any suggestions and opinions are welcome! > > Thanks, > > ted > > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:35:04 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: ????????<CA+TbpAVPVwgSD6Zf9y=KJBzE3dRAk-DP2Pm-5=+sKj_yLhD=uw(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can you put a sail on the ten or is it definitely designed as a dinghy only? I guess leeboards would be attached somehow. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the > 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing > to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached > at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:37:18 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: ????????<CA+TbpAV13js04nUy-OirAradF3vUaEq7s7hqG73FVm49tKzCUA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has one of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. Tom M-17 "waitin on a name". On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Steve, > > Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give > you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do > believe the M-12 is considered a dink. > > > http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html > > > > Skip > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > ? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? > ? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the > 15, > 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to > travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at > <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Stan Susman <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: ????????<1371645598.6307.YahooMailNeo(a)web184701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The 10 is a fine sailing dingy ________________________________ ?From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:35 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ? Can you put a sail on the ten or is it definitely designed as a dinghy only? I guess leeboards would be attached somehow. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: >? ? ?Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat?? Got a photo to e-mail? >? ? ?I didn't know Montgomery made a 12.? I know the 10 is a dingy, and the > 15, 17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. > Thanx, > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 > > > Charlie, > I know of a nice one but its in California > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing > to travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached > at <charlie(a)rentrof.net>. > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:54 -0400 (EDT) From: wcampion(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: <8D03B039BC72662-1190-2FA06(a)webmail-d165.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The M-12 I saw last year in Missouri was a bit rough from what I remember. ?I already had 2 project boats, so I decided to pass on the M-12 project. ? As far as the M-10 goes. ?I have one and it is definitely a sailing dinghy. ?It's a real nice sailing boat that is easily rigged and very responsive. ?Very fun to sail on a nice afternoon on the lake. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has ne of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. om M-17 "waitin on a name". n Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ?Steve, ?Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give ?you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do ?believe the M-12 is considered a dink. ?http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html ?Skip ?-----Original Message----- ?From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> ?To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> ?Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the ?15, ?17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. ?Thanx, ?Steve ?M-15 # 335 ?----- Original Message ----- ?From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> ?To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> ?Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?Charlie, ?I know of a nice one but its in California ?Sent from my iPhone ?On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: ?> Hi all, ?> ?> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to ?travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at ?<charlie(a)rentrof.net>. ?> ?> ?> Charlie ?> ?> ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:35:43 +0000 From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 Message-ID: ????????<1242872436-1371648942-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2022866773-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> ???????? Content-Type: text/plain Portland OR...I am wondering if there are any M17 owners here? Thank you! Becky Sent via Becky's BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: wcampion(a)aol.com Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:56:54 To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 The M-12 I saw last year in Missouri was a bit rough from what I remember. ?I already had 2 project boats, so I decided to pass on the M-12 project. ? As far as the M-10 goes. ?I have one and it is definitely a sailing dinghy. ?It's a real nice sailing boat that is easily rigged and very responsive. ?Very fun to sail on a nice afternoon on the lake. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 8:38 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 That sure is one pretty little boat. I think a gentleman up in Missouri has ne of those 12's for sale. He did last year anyway. om M-17 "waitin on a name". n Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, <wcampion(a)aol.com> wrote: > ?Steve, ?Here is a link to an M-12. ?It's an old listing, however, it should give ?you a pretty good idea of the type of boat you are looking for. ?I do ?believe the M-12 is considered a dink. ?http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery12101.html ?Skip ?-----Original Message----- ?From: stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> ?To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> ?Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 9:43 pm ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?? ? Is the 12 a dingy or a small sailboat? ?Got a photo to e-mail? ?? ? I didn't know Montgomery made a 12. ?I know the 10 is a dingy, and the ?15, ?17, & 23 are sailboats, but I didn't know about a 12. ?Thanx, ?Steve ?M-15 # 335 ?----- Original Message ----- ?From: "Stan Susman" <stanpfa(a)pacbell.net> ?To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < ?montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> ?Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM ?Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wanted to buy: M12 ?Charlie, ?I know of a nice one but its in California ?Sent from my iPhone ?On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie(a)rentrof.net> wrote: ?> Hi all, ?> ?> I'm looking to buy an M12 dinghy. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and willing to ?travel. Please contact me if you have an M12 for sale. I can be reached at ?<charlie(a)rentrof.net>. ?> ?> ?> Charlie ?> ?> ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:54:46 -0700 From: Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Portland Oregon Message-ID: <6AEBF6C7-259A-4A2D-9B9E-73F8A9FA3293(a)beckybelding.com> Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii Are there any M17 owners here? Becky Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:08:53 -0700 From: Tony Cox <cox.tjg(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ????????<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Portland Oregon Message-ID: <4634FCEB-3BC5-4B89-A364-9C61D7835FB1(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;????????charset=us-ascii The woods is full of em, Becky. I am a M17 owner just south of you in Silverton, Or. Tony Cox Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Becky Belding <becky(a)beckybelding.com> wrote: > Are there any M17 owners here? > Becky > > Sent from my iPad > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 124, Issue 9 ************************************************ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <51C1E132.3010602(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA this way. cheers, John S. On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky > > Sent from my iPad > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:02:40 -0500 From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1(a)gmail.com> To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <CACkX7Z1tLi=Kxz3b28HS60_27vZr3EerK86JR4HfS5AYMyP8eQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Becky, So, are you saying that you don't tow your boat now? One mile is pretty much no different than the rest. Just more of them in a row. We used to tow our Rhodes 22, 4700 lb tow weight, with a Chevy S-10. Towed it to Kentucky lake and back twice, 875 miles one way and never had a problem. An R-22 weighs almost twice what an M-17 weighs. I'd just hook it up and go. Rik On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net>wrote: > You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.comand similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA > this way. > > cheers, > John S. > > > On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a >> shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > ------------------------------**-------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.**com <http://sociocracyconsulting.com> > > -- The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive. ? Thomas Sowell ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:03:36 +0000 From: "Becky Belding" <becky(a)beckybelding.com> To: john(a)eco-living.net, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <877582520-1371661415-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-429124346-(a)b14.c7.bise6.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain Thanks John...any chance you could find out which company he used? Becky Sent via Becky's BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Reply-To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA this way. cheers, John S. On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? > Many thanks, > Becky > > Sent from my iPad > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:27:54 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement Message-ID: <1371662874.58338.YahooMailClassic(a)web121702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 George: the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. this is the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. i also had a 135 in my '84 M15. as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued.? Theford is making a replacement (model 260)???BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact replacement!? the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining stock, or look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). the 'wag bag' system is an option - http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when the v-berth cover is in place.? this means you need to set up the unit each time it is used. another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to fit under the v-berth.? there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and seal (do an Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). > We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, > 'cause he knows about all this stuff. sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-(? busy buildin' boats :-) (a good thing) --- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: > > Tim, > > I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening > for a porta potti is the same on both our models.? My > Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I > don't know if it is still made.? It is 15" front to > back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons).? > Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so > I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" > or so difference is not that critical. > You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were > in vogue awhile back, if they are still > available.???We can also hope Dave Scobie is > not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. > > Tom Jenkins > June Lake, CA > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: > > > Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera > > The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess > where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would > appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just > tell me make and model that fits. > > Thanks > > Tim Erwin. 2007 m15.? ( Dark Star ) # 641 > > Rockport, Texas > > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:30:57 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 Message-ID: <51C1EAD1.5070405(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed He went through uship.com - it is basically an online "brokerage" of sorts for independent haulers. You indicate what you want to move/ship/haul and from where to where and when and then haulers make offers/bids. So I could find out exactly who hauled his trailer, and, it's more about finding the right person for your needs rather than a specific hauler that did some other job for someone else (unless they happen to be a bidder on your job). cheers, John S. On 06/19/2013 10:03 AM, Becky Belding wrote: > Thanks John...any chance you could find out which company he used? > Becky > Sent via Becky's BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:49:54 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Reply-To: john(a)eco-living.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shipping of a M17 > > You can hire independent haulers/operators through for example uship.com > and similar operations - my brother had a trailer brought from VT to CA > this way. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 06/19/2013 07:50 AM, Becky Belding wrote: >> I am wondering if anyone has suggestions/experience with hiring a shipping company to transport a M17 from another state? >> Many thanks, >> Becky >> >> Sent from my iPad >> > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! 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Center-board for 23'
by Todd Bradley 19 Jun '13

19 Jun '13

Hi Jerry - I wanted to follow up and see if you received my previous posting. I would like to take you up on your offer and buy the CB from you. You can e-mail me directly todd(a)btbuilders.net or call me @ 916-616-6870 if you prefer. Please let me know and we can set up a time when I can come down and pick it up. Hopefully soon, as I put the boat-yard on hold yesterday pending picking up your CB. Thanks! Todd Todd Bradley <mailto:toddbradley@surewest.net> todd(a)btbuilders.net Cell 916-616-6870

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Re: M_Boats: M15 Porta potti measurement
by W David Scobie 19 Jun '13

19 Jun '13

George: the Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot is also known as the Thetford 135. this is the potti that the Glessers have in the '86 M15. i also had a 135 in my '84 M15. as Tom wrote the '135' unit has been discontinued. Theford is making a replacement (model 260) BUT the 'exact replacement' isn't an exact replacement! the base is not the same size and will not fit in the M15. so ... do some Internet searching to see if you can find some remaining stock, or look for one that may fit (i haven't found one). the 'wag bag' system is an option - http://www.cleanwaste.com/demo/go-anywhere-toilet the 'toilet', when assembled, will not fit in the M15's potti-space when the v-berth cover is in place. this means you need to set up the unit each time it is used. another option is to use the 'wag bags' in a bucket that is cut down to fit under the v-berth. there are toilet seats made to fit on buckets and seal (do an Internet search for 'bucket toilet seat'). > We can also hope Dave Scobie is not on a cruise, > 'cause he knows about all this stuff. sadly i'm not on Larry Yake's annual San Juan and Gulf Is. cruise :-( busy buildin' boats :-) (a good thing) --- On Sun, 6/16/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: > > Tim, > > I have an M17 (Hull 626, 2004), but I imagine the opening > for a porta potti is the same on both our models. My > Thetford Model TC 26104 Porta Pot just fits, although I > don't know if it is still made. It is 15" front to > back, 12.5" wide, and 12" high (must be 2.5 gallons). > Thetford and SeaLand both make units of about that size, so > I think you should measure your spot just to make sure 1/2" > or so difference is not that critical. > You might also look into the waste absorbent packs that were > in vogue awhile back, if they are still > available. We can also hope Dave Scobie is > not on a cruise, 'cause he knows about all this stuff. > > Tom Jenkins > June Lake, CA > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tim Erwin wrote: > > > Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera > > The year model of my boat is a 2007. There is a recess > where the porta potti should fit, I assume. I would > appreciate it if someone could save me some time and just > tell me make and model that fits. > > Thanks > > Tim Erwin. 2007 m15. ( Dark Star ) # 641 > > Rockport, Texas > > >

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