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Cast iron centerboard treatments
by Thomas Buzzi 08 Sep '14

08 Sep '14

Just dropped (well, not literally) my 180# cast iron centerboard. It is very rusty and one side is heavily eaten away. I have read all the very fine print on the Interlux cans of stuff I have. Still not sure how to proceed. I already have Interlux Watertite Epoxy filler and some Epoxy Primecoat left over from the deck. Also, on order, is the 2000E also from Interlux. The MSOG info states "...sandblasting, fairing rough areas with epoxy putty and then multiple coats of Interlux 2000E. After sandblasting I like to coat the entire board with epoxy before painting." Does that mean that it is preferable after sandblasting to just coat the entire board with epoxy? Epoxy after priming the cast iron with 2000E? Epoxy after priming the cast iron before fairing out the deep pitting in the cast iron?? First sandblasting, then epoxy filler, then priming with 2000E then epoxy the whole board before painting it??? I don't want to use the wrong order or the wrong stuff and have some layer slough off and take all the others with it. Also concerning the centerboard- the stop bolt which catches the board as it is lowered in my boat was just through bolted with the nut and bolt head left proud of the sides of the centerboard truck. Can I safely counter sink these into the centerboard trunk without punching through into the ballast compartment? The upper pivot bolt is well recessed at both ends. (and)Also I have in mind to install a couple of stainless steel tangs inside the centerboard slot. One end of each would be through bolted by the bolt that catches the centerboard as it is being lowered. The upper end of each tang, about 8 inches long would be through bolted by another 3/8 inch bolt higher up on the centerboard truck. The through bolt there would be placed outside the swing of the centerboard as it is lowered. This second bolt would in effect help alleviate all of the cleaving force of a "runaway centerboard" should its pennant fray or become disconnected from the board while it is being lowered and prevent the lower catch bolt from being smashed out of the bottom of the centerboard truck. It looks like there is enough clearance inside the cb truck slot to allow for a couple of eighth inch thick tangs. Here also the question arises concerning being able to counter sink the bolt into the sides of the centerboard trunk without punching into the ballast compartment. Any thoughts on this procedure? Thanks for your thoughts on these matters. Tom B Tom B, Mont.17 #258

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AZ Yacht Club Fall Racing Series
by Ronald McNeil 06 Sep '14

06 Sep '14

I was wondering if anyone would consider participating in the Fall race series put on by the Arizona Yacht Club. They run a fall and Spring series and held at Lake Pleasant. The fall series runs about every other weekend from Sept 20th until Nov 16th. Each fleet volunteers one race weekend to help run the races and host the Saturday dinner, so it's actually only 4 race weekends. You don't have to participate every race weekend unless you are trying for the series title. You also don't have to become a member to register and you could even register for a single day or weekend if you want. Saturday races start at 12:30 and go until about 4:30 and Sunday races start at 9:00 and are over by 1:00. I participated in the PHRF Non-Spin handicap fleet last year and plan to again this year. There are only about 5 boats in the fleet and my M17 is the smallest and slowest boat. So we watch everyones transoms through the races and find out on Monday after the handicaps are applied, how well we did. It shore would be more fun if there were a few Monty's out there to race with side by side. Here is the AZ Yacht Club web site in case anyone is interested. AZ Yacht Club Racing Fall Racing Series Check the calendar for the dates of fall racing. Pre-Series Events to help you get ready: There will be a crew party on September 5, View on arizonayachtclub.org Preview by Yahoo If you are planning to register for the series or a single day please let me know, so I can let the fleet captain know as well. Thanks, Ron McNeil M17/Jackpot/#675

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Who is it is in need of M-17 CB winch ?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 06 Sep '14

06 Sep '14

I am sorry - I seem to have lost/forgotten who needed a 17 CB winch - Please contact me at gila sailr at aol . com Thanks. Gary O.

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Forestry attachment
by gordonsaville80＠yahoo.com 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

Split rings wrapped with canvass Sent from my iPod

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Bahia de Los Angeles in October
by David Grah 05 Sep '14

05 Sep '14

We're planning a trip with our Montgomery 15 to Bahia de Los Angeles the first full week of October and would be interested if any one else in the group might be in the area then. We're learning a lot about Chubascos, Elefantes, and noseeums in preparation! David Grah Bishop California Montgomery 15 - Sky

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Re: M_Boats: forestay attachment
by nebwest2＠aol.com 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Um....I don't think she did.....and there are a fair number of people that agree with her (some even residing here..lol)....but such is life. I'm over it. ;-) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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Forestay attachment
by Thomas Buzzi 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Clevis pins, spring pins, etc. I started with pins of one sort of another and found that trying to hold tension on the forestay while trying to align the tiny holes for the pin to slide through the stemhead fitting as well as the ends of the turnbuckle was an exercise is frustration highlighted with the possibility of allowing the forestay to slip out of my hand altogether ending my sailing day with a mast bent double over the transom or the pin falling on the ground out of my reach unless I lowered the mast to retrieve it or that fatal "sploop" sound as it deep sixed itself. etc. etc. etc. What to do, what to do???? Stay home and drink pins coladas? No, find a way to make it so easy and fool proof and safe so that not even sitting on my patio with said pina colada would deter me from a day on the water. So....my placing a shackle through the holes on the stem head fitting I created a LARGE target to hit with whatever I was aiming with. Then I attached a three inch snap shackle to the end of the forestay. Voila! Now I had one hand for the forestay and ONE HAND to slip the pelican hook type end of the snap shackle through the large target shackle on the stem head fitting. My closing the snap shackle by simply squeezing it together I also tensioned the rig. The only thing easier is falling off the proverbial log, unless you prefer falling off the bow of your boat trying to align pins with holes while juggling a dancing forestay. Try it, you will like it. Sailing in Rockport, Tom B, Mont 17 #258, '77

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forestay attachment
by Thomas Buzzi 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Thanks for your input on this subject, Nebwest2. (Did your mother not like you?[?]) Seriously though, experience like yours with West Marine is quite valuable. Thanks for the warning. Being a long standing "belt and suspenders man" I will engineer a second snap shackle into my stem head operation. It will probably consist of a "lazy"snap shackle on a regular shackle bridging the loaded snap shackle. All parts will still be within easy reach and remain attached to the boat. It will require less than five seconds to use and will double the odds in my favor of not parting my bald spot with a mast. Sounds too good to pass up. Fair winds, Tom B, Mont.17 #258,'77

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Re: M_Boats: Forestay attachment
by stevetrapp 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

I replaced the turnbuckle with a snapshackle. Attaches with pins and holders. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Davies" <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 7:25 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Forestay attachment > Tom, > > How do you attach the snap shackle to the forestay, and how do you > compensate for the added forestay length? > > Do you replace the turnbuckle with the snap shackle? > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: M-15 forestay device 002 M-15 forestay device 003 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Re: M_Boats: Forestay attachment montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 138, Issue 16
by nebwest2＠aol.com 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Spent a fair number of years working for West Marine. I cannot begin to even tell you how many times someone preached to me the virtues of ways to replace the foolproof clevis pin/split ring combo with some quick pin method. I'm talking ball detent pins, hitch pins, snap shackles, etc etc etc, all methods designed for quick release.I also cannot tell you how many times sad faced individuals returned to the store to describe how the quick release pin did its job remarkably well.....at the wrong time....ending with a total rig failure. No arguments from me, clevis pins and split rings are a pain in the arse. For me, they still remain the only thing I will use in a critical attachment point. One thing that can make life MUCH easier....is to purchase a "split ring pliers" made specifically to assist in spreading the split ring open while holding it securely for insertion. They are great. By the way...every sad face that came back into the store with their story of rig disaster....returned to the tried and true split ring with a wrap of rigging tape around it. Apparently the inconvenience of losing the rig far outweighed the inconvenience of the split ring. I know, I know....someone will post..."I've used such and such methods for eons and never had an issue". That's cool. I'm just saying ....in 13 years of employment with west marine....I have never had anyone come in having had a wrapped split ring fail....can't say the same for the other methods. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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