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Re: M_Boats: Motor shaft length M17 /Alternator/Alternative
by bownez＠juno.com 21 Sep '15

21 Sep '15

Hi Listers, Gary's charger details I find to be accurate from my experience. I have a 1985 Honda 4 stoke 10hp and a 1995 Mariner 2 stroke 8hp, both with alternators, which have been used on my M23. Neither will put much of a charge into your batteries unless they are revving at a good clip. If not in a slip with shore power, I have a Goal Zero 30 watt solar briefcase with a built-in regulator. If the sun is strong, she brings the battery right up. Positioning is critical. My opinion is to minimize your DC load and go solar. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Buffettâ€™s New Enemy Buffett just confirmed his worst fear. Click here for his warning. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/560004e6dd79a4e64145st02vuc

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Where to sail near Pensacola, FL?
by Charlie Fortner 21 Sep '15

21 Sep '15

Good evening wrinkle boat lovers, Anybody been sailing in Pensacola recently? Got any suggestions on where to go, what to see, what to eat? Pensacola isn't a hard and fast destination, I was just thinking of it because it's within striking distance of Atlanta. I'm all ears for other interesting sailing destinations on the northern Gulf. Charlie -- M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta

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Towing report - Subaru Outback and M17
by John Schinnerer 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

Hi all, As promised a while back, a report on towing. In particular for those wondering about what a "small" car can do with an M17. Yesterday I drove from Maple Valley, WA to Ashland, OR, 450 miles, mostly on I-5, towing my recently purchased 1974 M17 "Pajarita" with my 2001 Subaru Outback wagon. Basically, it works just fine. I had to shift down for some of the steeper uphill grades on I-5 in southern Oregon. I cruised at around 60 mph on the freeway, except for a few slower uphills. Nothing I wasn't used to from owning a 71 VW van for many years a while back :-). I can definitely tell there's something wagging my tail a bit, but got used to it eventually. Just needs thoughtful driving, taking a bit more care than without the tow. So now outings to various nearby lakes or Pacific coast won't seem like much of a long tow! ;-) Specs of tow vehicle: base model Outback wagon, 2.5L engine, 165 HP rated, 5 speed manual transmission. Official tow rating is max 2000 lbs. load, max 200 lbs. tongue weight. Has overload rear springs (std. height) from RalliTek: http://www.rallitek.com/lifted-springs-kits/5634-rallitek-rear-overload-spr… Front brakes are high carbon disks and ceramic pads (in plain English, a small upgrade from original equipment). Hitch rig is this one: http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Subaru/Outback+Wagon/2001/90176.html?… ...which I installed myself some time ago, easy-peasy. Along with electrical rig identified on etrailer.com - the car has a plug and play plug, no splicing or manual wiring required. Sometime fairly soon I will try and get the boat & trailer on a scale and see what it actually weighs. Also sometime soon I will be doing the boat ramp shuffle, so will see how it handles that part. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: Akulet in Ashland
by Mark Dvorscak 18 Sep '15

18 Sep '15

I don't know anything about Akulet, but I'm not far from you John. My M15 is at home in Roseburg while my M23 is in a slip at Winchester Bay. I'm also a former M17 owner. Also, my good friend, Ian, has an M17 in Sutherlin. Coordinating schedules of working people can be difficult but we should certainly try to hook up and sail together some time. Congratulations on bringing your new baby home. Mark Dvorscak Sent from my U.S. Cellular® smartphone John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >Hi all, > >My sailing buddy Keith (Ranger 20, "Stoke") just spotted M15 "Akulet" >from Colorado parked near Garfield park here in Ashland, OR. >Anyone here know anything about that? :-) >Would be fun to connect with another Monty sailor in person. > >cheers, >John S. > >-- >John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >-------------------------------------------- >- Eco-Living - >Whole Systems Design Services >People - Place - Learning - Integration >john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >http://eco-living.net >http://sociocracyconsulting.com >

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Akulet in Ashland
by John Schinnerer 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

Hi all, My sailing buddy Keith (Ranger 20, "Stoke") just spotted M15 "Akulet" from Colorado parked near Garfield park here in Ashland, OR. Anyone here know anything about that? :-) Would be fun to connect with another Monty sailor in person. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Sail # 21 of Season
by George Iemmolo 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

Went sailing today with reef from yesterday's sail in, Sailed to slot where wind was very low (0-6 K) shook out reef and sailed to N Pine was able to sail across lake and back on single tacks. Wind picked up significantly when back on S Pine. Wind blowing SSW 10-15 K gusting to 24 K (32 m/h) Was able to keep boat on its feet by use of traveler (full cockpit width) without having to put reef back in. Sailed to Marina area and tried to sail to slip but could not as wind on the nose again. Heat 98 F, Humidity 25%, Barometer falling @ 29.21, Forecast cloudy (sunny entire time out) George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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Montgomery 15 Compass
by David Grah 16 Sep '15

16 Sep '15

Thanks Neil! Mind if I ask some questions about your compass? Where did you mount it? Does it affect the use of the back of the cabin as a back rest? Can you read it when seated on both sides of the boat? We're headed over to the Delta for a few days next week. We had a nice time there last year and are hoping for the same again. Cheers to you! David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:00:09 -0700 From: Neil Dorf <ndorf(a)surfbest.net> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Compass Message-ID: <skx2bkasdapfnygact71pa89.1442343609197(a)email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Back in July 2012 I got my Ritchie Sport X-21BU (blue face) from Defender for $42.99 +shipping.? Item# 805400COMBLU ? Cheers Neil? Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 5

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number of people in an M12
by Dave Scobie 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

I asked Jerry. he says two adults in an M12. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com

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Compass
by Neil Dorf 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Back in July 2012 I got my Ritchie Sport X-21BU (blue face) from Defender for $42.99 +shipping. Item# 805400COMBLU Cheers Neil Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5 -------- Original message -------- From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: 09/15/2015 11:00 AM (GMT-08:00) To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 151, Issue 21 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Montgomery 15 Compass Options (George Iemmolo) 2. Re: Montgomery 15 Compass Options (Dave Scobie) 3. Re: Montgomery 15 Compass Options (Stanley Wheatley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:40:30 -0500 From: George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Compass Options Message-ID: <CAP9=bJWMLbVJzNizymG4+vA-A9co2Ckwmju87RuVU-w+1H_-CQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am on a small Lake and really do not really need a compass. I do agree that one with compensating magnets would be better I think you could find a good one in the $50 range. George George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:39 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: > And, look at the 36% of reviews that give it one star...! > Not sure I would trust my boat/life to something like that. > Hopefully there is something in between the extremes of $15 and the $150 > that is decent. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 09/10/2015 06:32 PM, George Iemmolo wrote: > >> I have to agree that Doug's recommendation of the Plastimo is the one of >> choice, but being a little tight with my Boat $ I say look at this one >> before you buy. >> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Compact-Marine-Compass-Bracket/dp/B0054L3188/ref=… >> >> >> >> George >> "We Can Not Control the Wind >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" >> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:45 PM, David Grah via montgomery_boats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >> This summer, during a week on the Great Slave Lake, I had occasion to have >>> to navigate through fog in unfamiliar waters with rocks and islands to >>> run >>> into. I had loaded a number of way points into my GPS but not enough to >>> navigate in the limited visibility. I relied heavily on chart and a >>> compass >>> and it all worked out. >>> The compass I carry on our Montgomery 15 is a very simple handheld >>> compass >>> (a Ritchie Navigation SportAbout Hand Bearing Compass >>> >>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ritchie-navigation--sportabout-hand-bearing-c… >>> ). >>> I worked well enough for us to survive in fog on the big lake but it only >>> would read right if held very close to level to the horizon. As a result, >>> to read it I had to hold it carefully level along with steering and >>> navigating. I'd like to find a better compass option. >>> Ideally the compass wouldn't be permanently mounted so it doesn't take up >>> valuable surface that I might want to lean against at anchor but could be >>> deployed at read easily at all angles of heel when underway. >>> What good compass solutions have the fine people in this group come up >>> with? Thanks! >>> David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky >>> >>> > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:43:47 -0600 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Compass Options Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4rnG4S7TpeBqLcLn07im2J-Q6x3VJYrpNWbZqw1jB=sg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 U can find the ritche 57.2 for about $55 with some www-searching. :: Dave Scobie On Sep 14, 2015 6:40 PM, "George Iemmolo" <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am on a small Lake and really do not really need a compass. I do agree > that one with compensating magnets would be better I think you could find a > good one in the $50 range. > > George > > George > "We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:39 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > > > And, look at the 36% of reviews that give it one star...! > > Not sure I would trust my boat/life to something like that. > > Hopefully there is something in between the extremes of $15 and the $150 > > that is decent. > > > > cheers, > > John S. > > > > On 09/10/2015 06:32 PM, George Iemmolo wrote: > > > >> I have to agree that Doug's recommendation of the Plastimo is the one of > >> choice, but being a little tight with my Boat $ I say look at this one > >> before you buy. > >> > >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Compact-Marine-Compass-Bracket/dp/B0054L3188/ref=… > >> > >> > >> > >> George > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:45 PM, David Grah via montgomery_boats < > >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> > >> This summer, during a week on the Great Slave Lake, I had occasion to > have > >>> to navigate through fog in unfamiliar waters with rocks and islands to > >>> run > >>> into. I had loaded a number of way points into my GPS but not enough to > >>> navigate in the limited visibility. I relied heavily on chart and a > >>> compass > >>> and it all worked out. > >>> The compass I carry on our Montgomery 15 is a very simple handheld > >>> compass > >>> (a Ritchie Navigation SportAbout Hand Bearing Compass > >>> > >>> > http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ritchie-navigation--sportabout-hand-bearing-c… > >>> ). > >>> I worked well enough for us to survive in fog on the big lake but it > only > >>> would read right if held very close to level to the horizon. As a > result, > >>> to read it I had to hold it carefully level along with steering and > >>> navigating. I'd like to find a better compass option. > >>> Ideally the compass wouldn't be permanently mounted so it doesn't take > up > >>> valuable surface that I might want to lean against at anchor but could > be > >>> deployed at read easily at all angles of heel when underway. > >>> What good compass solutions have the fine people in this group come > up > >>> with? Thanks! > >>> David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky > >>> > >>> > > -- > > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > -------------------------------------------- > > - Eco-Living - > > Whole Systems Design Services > > People - Place - Learning - Integration > > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > http://eco-living.net > > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 07:52:18 -0400 From: Stanley Wheatley <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 15 Compass Options Message-ID: <1E7AA3F6-12DF-4BF2-9E85-D272035BDC8C(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I love Ritchie, in part because they are about 10 minutes from my house. My last boat had a Ritchie Navigator. Great compass but overkill for an M15 or M17. For my new-to-me M17 I went with their Venture SR-2. If you want a bulkhead mounted compass (I prefer them) for an M17, I think this is the way to go. Probably would not look out of place on an M15 either. https://www.ritchienavigation.com/research-compasses/compass-by-mounting-st… Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On my M17 i have a Richie V-57.2 Explorer Compass (the white face model > number is V-57W.2) - > > https://www.ritchienavigation.com/research-compasses/compass-by-series/expl… > > > this is a 'size appropriate' compass for the M15, M17, S17 and S15. i've > put a punch on the S17s (pics attached). > > > > -- > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com > > > >>> This summer, during a week on the Great Slave Lake, I had occasion to have >>>> to navigate through fog in unfamiliar waters with rocks and islands to >>>> run >>>> into. I had loaded a number of way points into my GPS but not enough to >>>> navigate in the limited visibility. I relied heavily on chart and a >>>> compass >>>> and it all worked out. >>>> The compass I carry on our Montgomery 15 is a very simple handheld >>>> compass >>>> (a Ritchie Navigation SportAbout Hand Bearing Compass >>>> >>>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ritchie-navigation--sportabout-hand-bearing-c… >>>> ). >>>> I worked well enough for us to survive in fog on the big lake but it only >>>> would read right if held very close to level to the horizon. As a result, >>>> to read it I had to hold it carefully level along with steering and >>>> navigating. I'd like to find a better compass option. >>>> Ideally the compass wouldn't be permanently mounted so it doesn't take up >>>> valuable surface that I might want to lean against at anchor but could be >>>> deployed at read easily at all angles of heel when underway. >>>> What good compass solutions have the fine people in this group come up >>>> with? Thanks! >>>> David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky > <depth and ritchie V57 port.jpg> > <depth port and ritchie V57 starboard.jpg> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 151, Issue 21 *************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: number of people in an M12
by Dave Scobie 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

I asked Jerry. he says two adults in an M12. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Anybody know how many adults can safely ride in that Montgomery 12? > > Tom B, Mont.17 #258 >

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