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Re: M_Boats: New Member
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Nov '15

16 Nov '15

Hello Josh, Welcome aboard! Glad you found the M-boat site. There is a wealth of combined knowledge here, and by all means, ask away as questions arise. Looking forward to seeing your M23 sometime. Mr. Bones 1979 M23 1976 M17 ____________________________________________________________ Heavy rains mean flooding http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5649e5207eb6765206b23st02vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M 23 Keel ballast replacement
by bownez＠juno.com 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Hello Brad, All of your reasoning and approach sounds correct to me. I don't think a bit of brass in the lead would cause and future corrosion problems. Are you doing all this work yourself? You are a brave man. Make sure you wear a good fitting respirator while working with the fiberglass and epoxy. I have never had any sticking swing keel issues with my M23, however, I did develop a slow leak which I believe originated at the keel hinge pin. I had my boatyard do the job which required removing the 360 lb keel. Much too big of a project for me. Good luck (and prayers), keep us all posted as to your progress. Mr. Bones Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Heavy rains mean flooding http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/563caf7bcc7ae2f7b48d0st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 153, Issue 7
by Karen & Smiley 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Skip, Come get it contact me off line and I am in Kensington MD Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:00 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 153, Issue 7 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home (Karen & Smiley) 2. Re: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home (Steve Trapp) 3. Re: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home (Skip Campion) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:01:00 -0500 From: "Karen & Smiley" <magoo252(a)comcast.net> To: "Montgomery Sailboat Forum" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home Message-ID: <000001d11e5e$c8c4b9f0$5a4e2dd0$(a)comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have an original mast crutch that is free to a good home, pick up only. I am located 8 miles north of the white house off 495 north (beltway). This came with my 2002 Monty 15. Any takes out there? Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 14:35:00 -0800 From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home Message-ID: <FD60A6D96DE447A1A2D2BD690ADCD9D5@HPPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I assume that you refer to the whitehouse in Washington, D.C. Correct ? I would give the mast crutch a good home and put it to use on my M-15, but I am located in Washington State, off I-5. A bit too far to pick it up. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: Karen & Smiley Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:01 PM To: Montgomery Sailboat Forum Subject: M_Boats: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home I have an original mast crutch that is free to a good home, pick up only. I am located 8 miles north of the white house off 495 north (beltway). This came with my 2002 Monty 15. Any takes out there? Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:45:11 -0500 From: Skip Campion <wcampion(a)aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home Message-ID: <16F39D07-A05C-4162-9AB9-4EA016FCDA00(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Smiley I'll close enough in MD. I can give the crutch a good home. Let me know if it's still available Skip Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Karen & Smiley <magoo252(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > I have an original mast crutch that is free to a good home, pick up > only. I am located 8 miles north of the white house off 495 north > (beltway). This came with my 2002 Monty 15. Any takes out there? > Smiley > > > > Karen & Smiley > > Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net> > > > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 153, Issue 7 ************************************************

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M15 Mast Crutch Free to good home
by Karen & Smiley 13 Nov '15

13 Nov '15

I have an original mast crutch that is free to a good home, pick up only. I am located 8 miles north of the white house off 495 north (beltway). This came with my 2002 Monty 15. Any takes out there? Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net>

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Nice M-15 in Phoenix - FS
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Nov '15

12 Nov '15

Came across this on kragslizt : A link to a really nice clean boat I had as inventory - was one of my company's Boat Show boats in 1990 (kept it 'out of inventory' until the family grew too large to sail it - then sold it to 'first owner') Only commenting because it is a 'special one' and appears to have been well stored. Color selection look familiar??? NFIW - just passing along a link... (PaintBoy now has the matching 7-11 from same Boat Show - just as nice heh Stan?!) http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/5306921240.html GO photo of boats at Phoenix International Boat Show - (Ed Greenband) 'far left is PaintBoy's new to him 7-11 and far right is boat on Craigslist when new. All sailboats visible was our display for 1990 - it was the largest sail display ever at the Phoenix Boat show show.'

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M 23 Keel ballast replacement
by Todd Bradley 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

Well, it looks like I'm going to embark on the removal and replacement of the steel ballast in my M 23's Keel. I know I won't be the first one who has embarked on this adventure. I plan on following Sean Mulligan's photo journal of his ballast replacement. I'm going to follow his lead (thanks Shawn, don't know what I would do without your photos and written description! ) and plan on doing the following: get the boat on jack stands, cut "Windows" into the side of the keel, remove the old steel punching's, replace approximately with 1200 pounds of lead in layers (each layer encased in polyester resin), seal the whole thing back up again. What I would like to ask the group and particularly anybody else that has performed this task.... Is there any "lessons learned" you might change that would improve this process or outcome? I know from Shawn's photos and documentation that he ended up creating a lead ingots that he stood on end in order to fill the upper portion of the keel. Would it make sense to cut the windows a little higher in order to the get the lead up to a higher level? Or might this compromise the structural integrity of the keel? Shawn used pieces of landscape Bender board to create temporary dams as he built up the lead in layers. I was contemplating if it might make sense to use layers of wetted fiberglass applied on the inside of the keel to help create the dam and also adding some structural integrity back. Does anybody think this has any value or would it be just a waste of time? I found a relatively inexpensive source for the lead at a shooting range. They will sell me the reclaimed lead that has been screened. It has small bits of brass from the bullet jackets. I don't think this will create too much of a problem especially when the lead is encased in polyester resin? I am thinking about buying about thousand pounds of the reclaimed ammunition and also using some of the lead shot to sprinkle in as I go to make sure everything packs in nicely. My sailboat stands arrive in about a week. I have already spoken to the crane guy and plan on having him lift the boat so I can place the stands. Then the fun can begin ;) any advice or prayers are appreciated! Todd Bradley M-23 #86

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Re: M_Boats: M 23 Keel ballast replacement
by bownez＠juno.com 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

Lenny and Bruce, I'll chime in for the list idea. Got my M23 in 2001. I now have her in Washburn, WI to sail Lake Superior. My friend Chef Theo moved his from Minn to Philly around 3 years ago. There are a few more in Mn and WI. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2

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Re: M_Boats: M 23 Keel ballast replacement
by Lenny Smith 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Bruce, You can put me on your list if you like. Im in Phx and have owned my M-23 for 15 years. I even get to sail it once in a while. 😎 Lenny Smith > On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Bruce Ward <northwave(a)telus.net> wrote: > > Todd, when I bought Clarity, Jeff had done a center board removal, fair and paint works etc. There was no apparent issues with the ballast and nothing has shown up in the first two seasons although I have since purchase only sailed in fresh water. Be nice to keep abreast of your progress and all of the 23's . It would be nice to have email lists of the owners and it might already be available but I forget how to extract the info. > > > Sent from my iPad

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Re: M_Boats: M 23 Keel ballast replacement
by Bruce Ward 09 Nov '15

09 Nov '15

Todd, when I bought Clarity, Jeff had done a center board removal, fair and paint works etc. There was no apparent issues with the ballast and nothing has shown up in the first two seasons although I have since purchase only sailed in fresh water. Be nice to keep abreast of your progress and all of the 23's . It would be nice to have email lists of the owners and it might already be available but I forget how to extract the info. Sent from my iPad

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Sage 15 cat will be sailing at the 2016 WICR
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 28 Oct '15

28 Oct '15

Greetings WrinkleBoat Fleet ! An update to the event: Rumor has it that the Sage Cat 15 will be sailed by none other than Mr. Wrinkle hisself. Yes it's true! Along with the usual fleet of WrinkleBoats, the newest member of the fleet will make its competitive debut. We have a gentleman from Colorado looking to crew at the event - lots of experience, ex-M-Boat owner - Please contact us at _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) if you need crew. If you think you are attending - Please contact us at www.... and we will get your name up on the list. We have a repeat member of the fleet volunteering to assist in the event contact us at _www.wrinkle_ (http://www.wrinkle) ..... with your sugestions, questions or ?? Tentative Schedule: Friday - 1/15/2016 - Arrivals welcomed, Practice Race(s), get to know the lay of the land and the lake. Friday Evening - Wild Horse West Dinner - No Host Burgers/Chili Size of course adult beverages. Saturday 1/16/2016 - Breakfast - Check-In - Skippers Meeting - Fleet Racing - Saturday Evening - Dinner at the Marina (or ?) the Leukemia Cup Awards - Festive Activities - Yacht Club Birthday Party! Evening sail if the weather cooperates is a possibility? Sunday 1/17/2016 - Breakfast - Out and Back Around the Islands Race approx. 10 miles - (casual start and NO marks ! geographic ones, but no 'tight crowded roundings') - Awards for Birthday Regatta - followed by WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Awards Ceremony - Backstay Chickens - Special Awards - The 'Big Honkin' Trophy for 1st Place Overall - Dinner at a Local Restaurant Monday 1/18/2016 is a federal holiday Martin Luther King Jr. Day - enjoy some relaxed sailing on a weekday in January sailing in the desert or travel home before the boss figures out you are having fun. We have been blessed with GREAT weather for the last 4 years - breezes can and will be at times light - early mornings can be snorting - (postponements have been experienced) generally shirtsleeve weather - bring sunscreen. Shoreside support is very good + - Shuttles for transport from ramp to Marina Rest. to Parking lot any combo - call them on cell phone - be nice to your driver - No Charge! Camping from primitive to full utilities with showers/bath are also available. Hotel/Motels from 12 to 20 miles away by freeway access. Contact us at _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) if you have questions or are interested but need more info. Thanks for your time. Your "local" host, Gary O. 602 703-7245 (S-A-I-L) _gilasailr(a)aol.com_ (mailto:gilasailr@aol.com) PLEASE FORWARD TO ANY OWNERS NOT ON THE 'SEND TO:' LIST ABOVE THAT YOU KNOW OF THANKS

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