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Re: M_Boats: Reefing lines (was : Gooseneck on early M17)
by Dan Farrell 09 May '18

09 May '18

Great article, thanks for sharing! Written by Bruce Bingham! Dan Farrell M17 #301 John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >Speaking of reefing lines - here is a nice article on reefing setups: >https://www.cruisingworld.com/seamanship-101-reefing-main > >Pics & diagrams are all after the written text. > >He gives good reasons why internal clew reefing lines result in poor >sail set/shape. Unless you are somehow running them into the boom at an >appropriate point, rather than at end of boom. A clew strap around the >boom might help also. > >I was planning to re-do my reefing setup, and had some of this figured >out, but he points out a number of things I was still not clear on. > >My exception to his setup would be, my topping lift is port side of >boom, not starboard, but I already do it by feel a lot of the time, just >reaching under the boom while staying on starboard side. >On a small boom surface like ours, having multiple reef lines and the >topping lift on the same side would probably not even fit, or would be >too crowded if it was possible to squeeze them in. > >Also on a boat our size, I don't see the need for a 2:1 on the clew >reefing lines. Direct from clew reef point through cheek block to cleat >seems fine. Curious anyone else's experience on that. > >cheers, >John S. > >On 05/08/2018 06:22 PM, Henry Rodriguez wrote: >> Mine is the same (#310.) I took advantage of the open boom end to exit my >> internal reefing lines. They are protected from chafe by a bullseye >> fairlead mounted just inside the opening. >> >> Henry >> Monita >> >> >> On Tue, May 8, 2018, 8:04 PM John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >> >>> Here's mine, from M-17 #38, 1974. >>> >>> Looks like what someone described, and was wondering about. As far as I >>> know this is the original setup (except the reefing hooks which I >>> imagine were added at some later time). Has always seemed quite solid to >>> me...haven't broken it yet anyhow! ;-) >>> >>> cheers, >>> John S. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> - Eco-Living - >>> Whole Systems Design Services >>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>> http://eco-living.net >>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>> > >-- >John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >-------------------------------------------- >- Eco-Living - >Whole Systems Design Services >People - Place - Learning - Integration >john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >http://eco-living.net >http://sociocracyconsulting.com >

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Gooseneck on early M17
by John Schinnerer 08 May '18

08 May '18

Here's mine, from M-17 #38, 1974. Looks like what someone described, and was wondering about. As far as I know this is the original setup (except the reefing hooks which I imagine were added at some later time). Has always seemed quite solid to me...haven't broken it yet anyhow! ;-) cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Montgomery Specific parts.
by Kevin Sandwick 08 May '18

08 May '18

Greetings, Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for Montgomery specific parts. At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. Thanks in advance for any information Kevin, Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts.
by Dan Farrell 08 May '18

08 May '18

Thanks Dave, good call. I don't have a broken casting, I have none at all. The end of the boom has stainless tangs pop riveted on, they bend in to meet up with the universal joint on the sliding gooseneck assembly. The mainsail tack is affixed to a shackle attached to the vertical pin on the gooseneck u joint. It looks like someone just jury rigged it. It's held together all right but doesn't seem right to me. I will take some pics tonight so you can see what I mean. I wonder what a new boom would cost. Mine's warped anyway, but looking at the Dwyer pricing, a new one would be quite expensive. Dan Farrell M17 #301 Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Dan. > >Need to see if Jerry has any old boomends laying around. The boom, like >the mast, for the old boats is no longer available. > >How badly is it broken? Picture will help in diagnosis of solutions. > > >:: Dave Scobie > >On Sun, May 6, 2018, 8:40 PM Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > >> Seem to have missed the key word - I need to replace the gooseneck casting >> for my boom. >> >> Dan Farrell >> M17 #301 >> >> Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: >> >> >Hi all, >> > >> >Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for >> a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. >> > >> >Any input will be most appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Dan Farrell >> >M17 #301 >> > >> >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: >> > >> >>Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, >> which >> >>don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they >> came >> >>out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you >> >>need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Dave Scobie >> >>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM >> >>To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> >>Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. >> >> >> >>Kevin. >> >> >> >>Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some >> custom >> >>parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, >> >>jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. >> >> >> >>:: Dave Scobie >> >> >> >>On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Greetings, >> >>> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to >> >>> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source >> for >> >>> Montgomery specific parts. >> >>> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. >> >>> Thanks in advance for any information >> >>> Kevin, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> >>> Windows 10 >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts.
by Dan Farrell 07 May '18

07 May '18

Seem to have missed the key word - I need to replace the gooseneck casting for my boom. Dan Farrell M17 #301 Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: >Hi all, > >Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. > >Any input will be most appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Dan Farrell >M17 #301 > >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > >>Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which >>don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they came >>out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you >>need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dave Scobie >>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM >>To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. >> >>Kevin. >> >>Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom >>parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, >>jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. >> >>:: Dave Scobie >> >>On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to >>> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for >>> Montgomery specific parts. >>> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. >>> Thanks in advance for any information >>> Kevin, >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> >> >>

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging for my boat
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 07 May '18

07 May '18

Jo Kay Kessler has an unused M-17 spinnaker by Mckibbon that she’ll part with for 250. Perfect opportunity for about half price. McKibbon made very good chutes; I’ve sailed with him many times.

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 6
by Kevin Sandwick 07 May '18

07 May '18

Thanks for the response to Montgomery specific parts request. The aluminum tube on one of my spreaders is damaged on the clevis pin side. Serviceable but I would like to replace it. Thanks again Kevin ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 1:00:11 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 6 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Montgomery Specific parts. (Kevin Sandwick) 2. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Bob Eeg) 3. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dave Scobie) 4. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) 5. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dan Farrell) 6. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dan Farrell) 7. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dave Scobie) 8. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dave Scobie) 9. Montgomery 17 for Sale by owner - SF Bay area (Tyler Heerwagen) 10. Re: Rigging for my boat (Timothy JarviMD) 11. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Dan Farrell) 12. Re: Montgomery Specific parts. (Henry Rodriguez) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 19:19:31 +0000 From: Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <DM3PR16MB06821054E1F9A22CD475A400AA840(a)DM3PR16MB0682.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings, Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for Montgomery specific parts. At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. Thanks in advance for any information Kevin, Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 19:26:27 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats(a)hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <CY4PR17MB1975BD1AE136AC1C6B91F7D0B7840(a)CY4PR17MB1975.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We built and produce all of the Montgomery models. Maybe you didn?t know that.? What do you need..? Bob 949-489-8227 Montgomery Boats Sent from my iPad > On May 6, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Greetings, > Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for Montgomery specific parts. > At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. > Thanks in advance for any information > Kevin, > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 20:01:48 +0000 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <CAGjBOA5zPG_Cn09QpBwp_Z9fDS4gj3c+_mF010PW8s_ntHji5Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Kevin. Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. :: Dave Scobie On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, > Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to > navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for > Montgomery specific parts. > At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. > Thanks in advance for any information > Kevin, > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 16:14:49 -0700 From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <901F24C0548B4E6B95A84ACD9445A085@CH002914> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they came out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Kevin. Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. :: Dave Scobie On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, > Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to > navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for > Montgomery specific parts. > At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. > Thanks in advance for any information > Kevin, > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 21:05:49 -0500 From: Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> To: Msog List <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <4du82idosmyayw6m5krjaay4.1525658540237(a)email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. Any input will be most appreciated. Thanks, Dan Farrell M17 #301 jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: >Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which >don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they came >out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you >need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Scobie >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. > >Kevin. > >Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom >parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. > >:: Dave Scobie > >On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to >> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for >> Montgomery specific parts. >> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. >> Thanks in advance for any information >> Kevin, >> >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 22:23:03 -0500 From: Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> To: Msog List <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <0q5tocaqvg2nbfuwkm28ijxb.1525663383485(a)email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Seem to have missed the key word - I need to replace the gooseneck casting for my boom. Dan Farrell M17 #301 Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: >Hi all, > >Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. > >Any input will be most appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Dan Farrell >M17 #301 > >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > >>Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which >>don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they came >>out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you >>need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dave Scobie >>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM >>To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. >> >>Kevin. >> >>Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom >>parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, >>jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. >> >>:: Dave Scobie >> >>On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to >>> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for >>> Montgomery specific parts. >>> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. >>> Thanks in advance for any information >>> Kevin, >>> >>> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 03:23:10 +0000 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <CAGjBOA7Cw781DavVxnpp7dsWiu22QJzX4X_PZEfyfAKrAix8jA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dan. You can't a 100% the same as the extrusion is no longer available. Closest is Dwyer's DM 6. It is freight shipping from the northeast ... Be ready for that sticker shock! More details in this linked PDF - http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=199 :: Dave Scobie On Sun, May 6, 2018, 7:06 PM Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > Hi all, > > Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for > a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. > > Any input will be most appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dan Farrell > M17 #301 > > jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > > >Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which > >don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they > came > >out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you > >need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dave Scobie > >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM > >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. > > > >Kevin. > > > >Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom > >parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, > >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. > > > >:: Dave Scobie > > > >On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Greetings, > >> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to > >> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source > for > >> Montgomery specific parts. > >> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. > >> Thanks in advance for any information > >> Kevin, > >> > >> > >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > >> Windows 10 > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 03:43:07 +0000 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. Message-ID: <CAGjBOA4-BCrDt-c0Ub=SM8SOjgg-eincb_1EtueqBTrkrt_cxQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dan. Need to see if Jerry has any old boomends laying around. The boom, like the mast, for the old boats is no longer available. How badly is it broken? Picture will help in diagnosis of solutions. :: Dave Scobie On Sun, May 6, 2018, 8:40 PM Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > Seem to have missed the key word - I need to replace the gooseneck casting > for my boom. > > Dan Farrell > M17 #301 > > Dan Farrell <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for > a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. > > > >Any input will be most appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Dan Farrell > >M17 #301 > > > >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > > > >>Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, > which > >>don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they > came > >>out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you > >>need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Dave Scobie > >>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM > >>To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >>Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. > >> > >>Kevin. > >> > >>Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some > custom > >>parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, > >>jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. > >> > >>:: Dave Scobie > >> > >>On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> Greetings, > >>> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to > >>> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source > for > >>> Montgomery specific parts. > >>> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. > >>> Thanks in advance for any information > >>> Kevin, > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > >>> Windows 10 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 03:49:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Tyler Heerwagen <theerwagen(a)yahoo.com> To: For and About Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 for Sale by owner - SF Bay area Message-ID: <1691352728.518564.1525664965202(a)mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I have too many boats, and am going to put Seranita up for sale, our Tall Rig Montgomery 17.She features most significantly a <10 hours 2017 5HP Mercury Sail Power outboard motor, and a new bottom job by Grand Marina. Bottom was fine but I could not bear to pass her on in less that top condition. See attached for a description of Seranita, and links below for 360 views of the vessel. You can scroll around, up and down, and even zoom in in these roundme.com photos, compatible? with your mobile device. Also attached are 5 photos of Seranita from this evening on the trailer.Tyler 1977 M-17 #232Tall RigNew Mercury "Sail Power" Outboard, 5HPNew bottom job$8900.00 https://roundme.com/tour/269168/view/819883/ https://roundme.com/tour/269165/view/819873/

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Montgomery 17 for Sale by owner - SF Bay area
by Tyler Heerwagen 06 May '18

06 May '18

I have too many boats, and am going to put Seranita up for sale, our Tall Rig Montgomery 17.She features most significantly a <10 hours 2017 5HP Mercury Sail Power outboard motor, and a new bottom job by Grand Marina. Bottom was fine but I could not bear to pass her on in less that top condition. See attached for a description of Seranita, and links below for 360 views of the vessel. You can scroll around, up and down, and even zoom in in these roundme.com photos, compatible with your mobile device. Also attached are 5 photos of Seranita from this evening on the trailer.Tyler 1977 M-17 #232Tall RigNew Mercury "Sail Power" Outboard, 5HPNew bottom job$8900.00 https://roundme.com/tour/269168/view/819883/ https://roundme.com/tour/269165/view/819873/

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts.
by Dan Farrell 06 May '18

06 May '18

Hi all, Jerry - and everyone else - can you help me identify the section used for a '79 m-17? Looks like probably a Dwyer DM-1 but I'm not positive. Any input will be most appreciated. Thanks, Dan Farrell M17 #301 jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: >Kevin- It looks like you have one of the 400-some 17's that I made, which >don't have too much in common with the eeg-built boats except that they came >out of the same molds. If you can be more specific about what parts you >need, between Dave, Sage marine, and I, we can probably help. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Scobie >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 1:01 PM >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Specific parts. > >Kevin. > >Most if your boat hardware is Schaefer or Garhauer. There are some custom >parts, cleats for example, you need to find an equivalent. Jerry, >jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org, still has a few of the custom parts. > >:: Dave Scobie > >On Sun, May 6, 2018, 12:20 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> Just purchased a new to me M-17, Hull # 400. I am slowly learning to >> navigate the Montgomery web sites but still have not located a source for >> Montgomery specific parts. >> At this time I don't need much and could possibly substitute if needed. >> Thanks in advance for any information >> Kevin, >> >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> > >

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Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler
by Jared Prindle 04 May '18

04 May '18

Thanks guys…I think it’s all good advice and stories. I do have some great sails made my HP (with luff tape) and I suppose I should learn how to remove the 150 and install the 135 and try that one out even before I go any further. I guess in my mind I was used to running something large in the morning and then being able to switch to a 90 later in the day. I’ll learn my CDI better and see what I can do with it. Oh and I never really race but I’m always trying to keep good speed and to some degree, I’m "racing" myself. > On May 4, 2018, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. second stay with roller furler (Jared Prindle) > 2. second stay with roller furler (Thomas Buzzi) > 3. Re: second stay with roller furler (Larry Yake) > 4. Re: second stay with roller furler (swwheatley(a)comcast.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 20:15:42 -0700 > From: Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: <9E093774-CF3D-48F1-85E2-98FB5E05E8D1(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 22:42:21 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWdO+9F6gSuWBhHA+zW1LFun32SmN7hnjG2ds6GtRx+2Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > These are FUN boats to fool around with. I was considering an inner stay > and then be able to use a stasail and a yankee with the main. Then I > realized, with such a tiny "J" measurement where is all that stuff going to > fit on the foredeck? A 17 foot boat on a 15' foot waterline. Displacing, > what 1600#'s? > I am guilty as anybody of "sailboatitice". Imflammation and swelling of how > big I think my 17' Monty is. When redoing mine I wanted to get rid of the > "bleach bottle" look inside so I installed "beadboard" paneling. I was > concerned that once I cut holes in the athwartship bulkhead by the mast > step that bulkhead would buckle. I did see that happen on a friend's Monty. > So I installed a 3/4 inch plywood bulkhead attached to the existing one, > which I then paneled. Because I had trouble with an older boat (and a > larger one) running out of electricity I installed a series 27 battery in > my Monty instead of the Series 24. When I saw that the hatchboards were > what I thought too thin to take a boarding sea (like I was going to cross > the Atlantic in my 17) I remade them out of very dense Mahogany 3/4 inch > thick. Then added a five pound porthole in the top board so I could stay > below and watch those boarding seas. I replaced a 20# stock mahogany rudder > with a "bluewater" level kickup one by Ruddercraft ( a thing of beauty) > which weighs 43 pounds. To make a long story interminable, when I finally > launched the boat the boot stripe never again saw the light of day. The > next time I informally race another boat I probably will end up jettisoning > all the extra anchors, lifejackets, lines, whisker poles and an 11' "poling > pole" to push myself off the sandbars I can no longer float over. > Next project is to run all the lines from the mast around the main hatch > (which I beefed up just in case a large person stepped on it) to another > winch and various turning blocks and jam cleats to I won't have to make the > LONG trek up to the mast to adjust any lines. > Walter Mittey is my hero. I do get to read a lot of names on other boats' > transoms too. These are fun boats to use though. When I recently paid a > small fortune to Seabrook Marine Service to do a "proper" bottom job on my > Monty it ended up looking like they let someone's child have at it with a > swab mop. When I queried the manager about it he demurely said " I wouldn't > take that racing". So who races anyway? I just load up my dream boat and > imagine far flung sandy shores that will forever remain in my mind's eye > only. > Gee these are fun boats!!! > Fair winds, > Tom B, Monty 17, #258, "AS-IS" > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:14:44 -0700 > From: Larry Yake <larryyake(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: > <CANjZbonYRigoMrYrgOsaojjDznz_Rsvusp9rMfexVpB3ZA0Mdg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Does your genoa have a luff tape to help take the fullness out of the sail > as it is furled? I have a 150 on a CDI and I never change it out, but then > I sail in the PNW where we have lighter winds most of the time than some > areas of the country. With the luff tape it will keep a "decent" shape down > to about a 90, but you wouldn't want to race with it. For cruising it's > fine and I've sailed with it like that in 40 knot gusts. > > On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Jared Prindle <gojopo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many >> questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I >> believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like >> it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of >> you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller >> upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing >> the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do >> while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner >> stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? >> dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up >> beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your >> headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 13:14:29 -0400 > From: <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > Message-ID: <00f501d3e3cb$60e6efd0$22b4cf70$(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would just convert back to hank-on sails before I started messing around with an inner forestay. > > Have you used the 135 much? That is what most roller-furler owners end up with and if it was designed and built by someone who knows what they're doing (look for a padded luff and a raised clew) you might be pleasantly surprised with how versatile it is. Unless you do most of your sailing in light winds (say under 10 kts) you won't miss the 150 much and a 135 with a padded luff can furl down to the equivalent of about a 90 and still maintain decent sail shape, provided you also move the jib sheet lead blocks forward to maintain correct sail twist. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Jared Prindle > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 11:16 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: second stay with roller furler > > Hi all and thanks for the support so far. I?ll probably have many questions for many months to come. I have a CDI on my M17 with what I believe is a 150% headsail. It?s in really good condition and it feels like it?s holding decent shaped if furled just a little bit. But?what do all of you CDI style furler owners do when you want to put on something smaller upfront? I do have a 135% sail built for the furler as well but changing the sail on the furler seems like a 30 min job and not something to do while sailing?just guessing on that. Thoughts? Anyone installing an inner stay for something smaller? I assume a 95% or so is made with the same ?I? dimension so that doesn?t seem like a doable plan. When the wind pipes up beyond a reasonable furl/reef and you still want some good shape in your headsail, what are you CDI owners doing? > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 183, Issue 3 > ************************************************

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