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Jib furling line routing on M17
by John Schinnerer 23 Apr '18

23 Apr '18

Hi all, Those of you with a furling jib on your M17 - where/how did you route your furling line? Pictures appreciate if available. And, how happy are you with it, would you change anything that would make it better (more convenient, simpler, less likely to foul/snag/trip over, etc.). thanks, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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M15 for sale
by George Burmeyer 20 Apr '18

20 Apr '18

M Boaters, I have been a long-time lurker on this list and a sometime contributor. The time has come for me to sell my M15 and I want to give folks on the list the first chance to buy her. I have lavished a lot of attention on this boat over several years and she’s all set up to sail away. She comes with more gear than you need: Newer sails including a main with two sets of reef points, a fantastic storm jib, whisker pole, two anchors, chain and rode, all CG safety gear, bimini top, Honda 2HP iron jib (short shaft), dock lines, all rope halyards, original porta-potti,, 3 piece teak hatch boards (plus the original 2-piece boards, tiller extension, tiller clutch and more. She sits on a Trail-Rite trailer that has been professionally modified with a 6 foot tongue extension and an outboard mount and has new rollers, a guide-on system and new bunks. This boat is located in in Santa Rosa, California, where it has been stored under cover for the many years I have owned her, so her hull and deck are in better than good shape. 1985 Montgomery 15 #385, cream hull, blue stripe, is for sale for $4500 with all accessories in sail-away condition. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. Pictures available on request. I will be putting her up on the MSOG site soon, and then on Craig’s list. Thanks, George

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Fwd: Re: michael ohara liked your comment in "Why City Slickers Should Consider This Classic Rain Gear"
by Conbert Benneck 18 Apr '18

18 Apr '18

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: michael ohara liked your comment in "Why City Slickers Should Consider This Classic Rain Gear" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:17:01 -0400 From: Pat Weart <pweart(a)twcny.rr.com> To: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> Connie, I love your comments! Gaily painted garbage bags - I can’t stop laughing. You are a treasure. Pat > On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com > <mailto:chbenneck@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: michael ohara liked your comment in "Why City Slickers > Should Consider This Classic Rain Gear" > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:17:49 +0000 (UTC) > From: noreply(a)comments.wsj.com > To: chbenneck(a)gmail.com > > > > "Why City Slickers Should Consider This Classic Rain Gear" > > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9slGQ7b5T4GO33…>http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-even-city-slickers-should-reconsider-classi… > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9slGQ7b5T4GO33…>Stop > receiving notifications about this conversation Unfollow > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9nxkVTcJnmJNMj…> > > > michael ohara liked your comment > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq5lYbS7d9xuTHMW…> > > The Fashionistas make me laugh. If you are a rag sailor, a good set > of oilskins and a Sou'wester hat is an absolute necessity. If the > weather deteriorates; green water comes over the bow; and it's raining > in bucket fulls; you just need some oilskins that keep you semi-dry. > These aren't "Fashion" products. They are something you wear to solve > the rain and sea water hitting you in the face problem. > Our oilskins did their job for years and years. The seams didn't rip; > they were build and tested by sailors under the most miserable of > ocean weather conditions. > Why don't you Fashionists go sell gaily painted garbage bags to your > clientele. They are good for one time wear; you can come out with new > models every fashion season. We sailors will wear what works for us. > Stay out of our bailiwick, and we won't mess with your "fashions" . > > Go to comment > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq5lYbS7d9xuTHMW…> > > > You are receiving this email because you are signed up to be notified > about commenting activity atWSJ.com <http://wsj.com/>.Click here > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZKRziyniTvVu8J6geyy1oYFn-2B-2BRrwR…>to > manage your notification settings. If you would like tounsubscribe > <https://email.livefyre.com/wf/click?upn=oZtfHoAwEgZg8ZniQXSTq9nxkVTcJnmJNMj…>from > this conversation you can always re-subscribe from your notification > settings or from the comment stream. Please do not reply to this email > directly but you may contactmoderator(a)wsj.com > <mailto:moderator@wsj.com>if you have questions. >

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Mast Specs
by Dave Scobie 12 Apr '18

12 Apr '18

Mike: measurements from my M17's mast - The boom rides about 18" to 20" above the foot. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Mike: > > A good number of the M17's have the slot for the gooseneck/sail that low > ... it is clear that the slot on my mast was originally higher as you can > see where the slot was closed using plyers and the lower one opened. My > main has slugs and this orientation required me to push the sail up into > the mast when I rig the boat. > > Talk with Harry at E/P Sailmakers. He knows the boat. using what you > have he can confirm the measurements for a boat of your vintage. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the help... knowing where the bottom of your sail track cutout >> is might help too (it appears my gooseneck will be right under the cutout >> on my mast). >> >> Given that I'm working with a lot of unknowns, I'm going to get my main >> made pretty close to the original specs - I can make it work with all the >> stuff I've got! >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Mike Barnett >> >> http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com >> >> >> On Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:00:35 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < >> scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Mike: >> >> The sail goes as close to the masthead as I can get it. When I first >> got the boat I couldn't do this as the halyard had an eye to hold the >> headboard shackle and the resulting diameter of the line wouldn't fit into >> the masthead fitting. I cut off the eye and tied the shackle with a >> bowline. >> >> I can measure where the gooesneck 'floats' next time I'm at the boat. >> >> >> :: Dave Scobie >> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ >> <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> >> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ >> :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ >> :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Mike Barnett < >> claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> When you hoist your main, how close to the top of your mast would you say >> the head of the sail is? Trying to figure out the ideal luff measurement >> for my boat's mainsail (I don't have an original, and I'm questioning the >> location of the gooseneck/sail slug cutout). >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Mike Barnett >> >> http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com >> <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> >> >>

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 182, Issue 9
by islandinspired＠earthlink.net 11 Apr '18

11 Apr '18

Hi Jerry, Thanks for the invite! I’ll take you up on that offer! Please keep me informed on location and timing. Also, come to SoCal and help me race m Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. M 10 sailing dink. (islandinspired(a)earthlink.net) > 2. Re: M 10 sailing dink. (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:50:54 -0700 > From: islandinspired(a)earthlink.net > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: M 10 sailing dink. > Message-ID: <0171F0D8-E863-45BC-AEBB-0EE625CED31A(a)earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > Searching for an M 10 sailing dink. Prefer one that is in reasonable condition. > I?m a former Montgomery aka ?wrinkleboat? employee from the late 60s and 70s. Fun job, great memories! > Marty (949)547-1000. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:57:38 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 10 sailing dink. > Message-ID: <39AB6705FA02475B8E49A171D5E0EDA4@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Marty! Come sail with me at the Cruiser Challenge in July? > > -----Original Message----- > From: islandinspired(a)earthlink.net > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 4:50 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: M 10 sailing dink. > > Hi all, > Searching for an M 10 sailing dink. Prefer one that is in reasonable > condition. > I?m a former Montgomery aka ?wrinkleboat? employee from the late 60s and > 70s. Fun job, great memories! > Marty (949)547-1000. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 182, Issue 9 > ************************************************

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M 10 sailing dink.
by islandinspired＠earthlink.net 11 Apr '18

11 Apr '18

Hi all, Searching for an M 10 sailing dink. Prefer one that is in reasonable condition. I’m a former Montgomery aka ‘wrinkleboat’ employee from the late 60s and 70s. Fun job, great memories! Marty (949)547-1000. Sent from my iPhone

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M-12
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 10 Apr '18

10 Apr '18

Marty- how about a 12 instead of a ten? Gary O just called and there is a black one for sail on Craig’s list-San Francisco and guess what? it’s my old boat; the one I raced in Newport about the time you were working for me. it has no sails or hiking straps, so what I’d do is make it into a cat rig. You might remember that I had one, and sailed it in the Yachting Mag. One-of-a-kind race in about ‘72 ish. If I didn’t have a Banshee, which has an active local fleet, I’d snap it up. If interested I’ll pick it up for you. I don’t know your address or I’d PM you. Mine is jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org.

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Boom Specs (mast question)
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

Mike: A good number of the M17's have the slot for the gooseneck/sail that low ... it is clear that the slot on my mast was originally higher as you can see where the slot was closed using plyers and the lower one opened. My main has slugs and this orientation required me to push the sail up into the mast when I rig the boat. Talk with Harry at E/P Sailmakers. He knows the boat. using what you have he can confirm the measurements for a boat of your vintage. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Mike Barnett < claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for the help... knowing where the bottom of your sail track cutout > is might help too (it appears my gooseneck will be right under the cutout > on my mast). > > Given that I'm working with a lot of unknowns, I'm going to get my main > made pretty close to the original specs - I can make it work with all the > stuff I've got! > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:00:35 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike: > > The sail goes as close to the masthead as I can get it. When I first got > the boat I couldn't do this as the halyard had an eye to hold the headboard > shackle and the resulting diameter of the line wouldn't fit into the > masthead fitting. I cut off the eye and tied the shackle with a bowline. > > I can measure where the gooesneck 'floats' next time I'm at the boat. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dave, > > When you hoist your main, how close to the top of your mast would you say > the head of the sail is? Trying to figure out the ideal luff measurement > for my boat's mainsail (I don't have an original, and I'm questioning the > location of the gooseneck/sail slug cutout). > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:09:36 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - > > boom is 7'9-1/4". > > the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. > > the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". > > The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the > end of the boom, on the boom's port side. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper. wordpress.com/ > <https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/> > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings. wordpress.com/ > <https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/> > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15- name-scred > <http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred> > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com <claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com>> wrote: > > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Boom Specs (mast question)
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

Mike: The sail goes as close to the masthead as I can get it. When I first got the boat I couldn't do this as the halyard had an eye to hold the headboard shackle and the resulting diameter of the line wouldn't fit into the masthead fitting. I cut off the eye and tied the shackle with a bowline. I can measure where the gooesneck 'floats' next time I'm at the boat. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Mike Barnett < claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dave, > > When you hoist your main, how close to the top of your mast would you say > the head of the sail is? Trying to figure out the ideal luff measurement > for my boat's mainsail (I don't have an original, and I'm questioning the > location of the gooseneck/sail slug cutout). > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:09:36 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - > > boom is 7'9-1/4". > > the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. > > the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". > > The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the > end of the boom, on the boom's port side. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > > >

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Fwd: M17 Boom Specs
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - boom is 7'9-1/4". the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the end of the boom, on the boom's port side. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ yahoo.com> wrote: > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > >

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