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M17 Boom Specs
by Mike Barnett 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum outhaul.

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Full Length Top Batten
by Mike Barnett 08 Apr '18

08 Apr '18

Is anyone using a main with a full length top batten? I'm not particularly trying to increase the roach (although if I can, let me know... we haven't sailed ours yet so I have no way to guess re: backstay interference), just trying to get the best sail shape possible.

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Safety Equipment
by Conbert Benneck 08 Apr '18

08 Apr '18

Hi Gang, PDFs are mandatory, as are tethers when things start to get dicey; but other safety bits are needed as well. PDF's alone are good but need further safety equipment. In addition to your PDF, once you are in the water; how loudly can you yell...? ...and for how long? What is needed for each of your on-board PDFs is an attached whistle, that is a lot louder than your voice, and requires less energy to keep blowing it. Another item - if you are out at night - should be a water-activated flashing light attached to your PDF. They don't cost much; but make locating someone; or you, in the water a lot easier. Connie

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Sailing Harness & Tether
by brad kurlancheek 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

Hello Montgomery Sailors, I finally bit the bullet and shelled out the dough y'day for a West Marine sailing harness and tether. The harness has double D rings, and the tether is double, one 3', the other 6'. My question to the group is to see what if any Monty sailors in the 15 or 17 sail with a harness, and if so, to see what on the boat they attach themselves to. I was out on the Choptank last year having the time of my life, literally, in my M15, on a galloping exhilarating beam reach, but felt a tad bit insecure not being connected to anything. If anyone's ever been tossed (out of the cockpit, into the deep, blue sea) feel free to relate your experience, with or without wearing a harness & tethered to boat. Thanks! - Brad

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Adding vang - boom bail or eye strap?
by John Schinnerer 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

Hi all, Checking for any advice on attaching boom end of vang I will be adding for this season (Pajarita didn't come with any vang setup). I see some setups use a full-on bail - as for main sheet block - for the boom end block of the vang. I see some that simply use an eye strap for the boom end block of the vang. The block I have would attach fine with either. Doesn't need a bail. But could go on a bail or attach via an eye strap. Any reason I should use a full bail type of attachment, instead of just an eye strap? thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Boarding Ladder
by David Grah 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

I found the removable ladder could slide along the edge of the boat where it was deployed, especially if someone was using it while the boat was underway. I found it tended to rock around a little as someone used it. It also required a little care to make sure it was properly configured when it was deployed. With the fixed ladder, there is no question. I note I still have my removable ladder if anyone wants it. I'll say the quality is good. David GrahBishop California Message: 6Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:09:03 -0500 From: George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Boarding Ladder Message-ID: <CAP9=bJX0R-afn11HO0ejp15vW=v1Jqt87c=sgsD1Tq6oKULBDQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" David Grah Thanks for the pdf. unfortunately I can not get it to print for me. I have given some thought to the over the gunwales mounting ladder. As I sail with a mate 50% of the time the ladder could remain stowed unless needed. I would deploy it when single handling. You mentioned it not being secure can you elaborate on that a little? ? George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:31 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dave >

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Boarding ladder
by Jon Barber 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

This one works for me.

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Boarding Ladder
by Jon Barber 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

My boarding ladder consists of 2 lengths of stout Iine and a board with holes drilled in each end. The lines are knotted and passed thru the holes on one end, and then passed thru the holes in the aluminum extrusion that runs around the edge of the deck. I deploy it at the aft corner of the cockpit. I can reach up and grab it from the water. The board floats and you have to push it down and insert your foot between the board and hull. It can be removed easily, requires no drilling. The backstay interferes with using a transom mounted ladder on a M17. No Cost? Nothing. Boarding ladder and motor mount hanging off the back of that lovely transom? I don't think so. Whatever boarding device you decide on be sure to practice with it repeatedly, especially when tired. You may need to get back aboard was someday when your life depends on it. It can be seen in this photo in the stowed position.

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Boarding Ladder
by Conbert Benneck 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

When we bought our Tripp-Lentsch 29 in 1966, one requirement (among many) I had was for a boarding ladder. My requirements were for something that folded into the smallest package possible. What I found was an aluminum boarding ladder that totally folded together into a package that was about 16 inches long and with four steps had a height of about 5" to 6". It hung from two attachment points that were through bolted to our teak toe rail. It was an American made item and I had one of my visiting sailing colleagues buy it in Hartford and bring it to Paris. It was very practical, but, I stowed it after we used it while swimming. In retrospect the fixed; transom mounted boarding ladder is the better solution. It is always instantlyavailable to someone in the water . Our solution, while taking up a minimum amount of storage space in a sail locker, first had to be retrieved from the sail locker and hooked to its fittings - which is kind of hard to do if you are single-handing and fall overboard. Then you need a ladder that can be grabbed; extended; and used. Connie

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Boarding Ladder
by brad kurlancheek 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

If you're looking for something cheap, quick, and easy, a PVC boarding ladder will get the job done. Using the instructions here - https://www.cruisingworld.com/how/how-make-dinghy-boarding-ladder I made one in an afternoon. If you'd like to see pictures of the construction process for mine, email me and will be happy to send them along. The whole thing folds up compactly and will easily fit within a cockpit seat locker. Granted, this sort of ladder is no way as sturdy or easy to use as the chrome-barred type, especially as the one illustrated by the fine work done by David Grah in his post, but in a pinch, this stow-away ladder is better than nothing at all. - Brad

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