May 2012 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

M 17 for sale
by tommyval＠aol.com 28 May '12

28 May '12

Good Morning, I have decided to sell my 1993 M17. Trailer, 5hp Honda, 2 sets of sails and the usual extras. Boat is located in Solomons, Md. All in excellent condition. For more info please contact me at tommyval(a)aol.com Thanks Gary Valetti

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Fw: Help Please!!
by Keith Diehl 27 May '12

27 May '12

Forwarded without png attachment From: "Jeffrey Johnston" <frjeff(a)gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:22 AM Subject: Help Please!! It has obviously been way too many years since I've sailed as I have forgotten more than I know at present.[?] In checking my new main for fit, I am confused by the line you can see (in the pic link below) running along the side of the boom. I am thinking that it may be a reefing line that would run up to the reefing grommet. If so, how can I mod for my new main which I had made with double reefing points. If not for reefing, what might it be? http://www.flickr.com/photos/frjeff/7274181654/ Many thanks *Jeff+* Molōn labe!

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Fixed mount VHF
by Jerry Lee Hi-Kick Racing 27 May '12

27 May '12

I took my M17 out to key west from Marathon, FL (130 miles sailed total with 2 additional crewmembers) and noticed that my handheld radio starts to get spotty when 10-15 miles offshore. My father in law has a fixed mount VHF in the attic. Thinking about installing a fixed VHF on the boat. I noticed there isn't much room.. perhaps mounted on the ceiling of the cabin but I don't want to drill any more holes on the deck. The mast step is in the way for me to mount it under the V berth.. my battery is in the way on the port side, and i want easy access to provisions and anchor on the starboard side. I was wondering if you had any ideas, or mounted one yourselves. I want to slowly start outfitting the boat for longer voyages and quickly realized space is an issue. Thanks! PS: I'll post up my key west story sometime if you don't mind. -- Jerry Lee Shooter's Quest Network <http://www.shootersquest.net>Hi-Kick Racing Motorsports Blog <http://www.hikickracing.com> Jindo the Faithful (S.V. Jindo M17 blog) <http://gogojindo.blogspot.com>

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Jib Downhaul
by beowulf2＠cox.net 27 May '12

27 May '12

Hello group: I am considering adding a downhaul for my jib on my M15. I have seen where the downhaul line runs back to the coaming in pictures posted to the web, but would like to know what diameter the line should be (I am thinking 1/8 or 3/16 line) and what kind of block is mounted to turn the line at the foot of the jib. I am planning to mount the block in the third hole in the forestay fitting. Thanks Mike Hall M15 167 "Dreki" Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Re: M_Boats: Resurfacing Polycarbonat Ports
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 25 May '12

25 May '12

Good Idea Joe! AND ...if I put "Marine Use" on it....I can charge 3 times what I paid for it at Wally World!! LOL

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Resurfacing Polycarbonat Ports
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 25 May '12

25 May '12

(if the pics don't come through on here....goto the Saihavasu Message board at: _http://www.quicktopic.com/40/H/LSmQsY3ZHAv_ (http://www.quicktopic.com/40/H/LSmQsY3ZHAv) "Dauntless" has some pretty old Grey Marine polycarbonate opening ports in her. I love them as we live in a hot location and opening all 6 of them is fantastic ventilation. Over the last 15 or so years (they were in there before we purchased her) the sun has had her way with them, clouding the lenses until they have become totally opaque. Nothing would clear them up, even temporarily. I recently used a 3M headlight restoration kit on my truck. I was so impressed with it I figured "what the heck" and gave it a try on one of the ports. Keep in mind that replacing the lenses woud cost hundreds of dollars and removal of the ports. In 20 minutes with the leftovers from the $20 kit I used to polish the headlights...the lense went from this: to this: (and the picture does not do it justice) I figure since I already did 2 headlights that I should be able to get 3 ports done per kit. Total cost $40 (less than $7 per port) and about 20-30 minutes time per lens. TOTALLY worth it!! I have tried other headlight restoration kits that didn't work for crud. This kit is fantastic!!!! I figured I would share this in the hope that helps out someone who has had the same thing happen to their ports.

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Re: M_Boats: boom vang
by Bruce Ward 25 May '12

25 May '12

Hi Tom, I have M17 #32 from 2004 and also have an 8 foot boom. I, like you, tend towards having a boom height of about 17-20 inches and have not had any issues with either of my mainsails leech or boom end snagging the backstay. I can send you photos separately to illustrate if you like. Cerulea sails fantastic in this configuration so I'd say don't worry about it and don't bother trimming your boom. And, I'd race anyone if they insisted the performance was increased to any substantial amount by lifting things the extra few inches. My new sails from Yager rock! Bruce.

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Daniel's blog
by Daniel Rich 25 May '12

25 May '12

Some of you have visited my sailing and cycling blog. I have changed the address to http://danielsailingandcycling.wordpress.com/ You can register for email alerts should you choose to follow the blog. The box for that is on the blog. Just wanted to let you know. Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich(a)gmail.com

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Jack & Beth M15 stepping mast
by Bruce King 24 May '12

24 May '12

Welcome aboard folks. I usually single hand my M15 and am part of the Geezer crowd. My method goes like this: I use the topping lift line and run it through the bow anchor pulley. I feed the lower end of the line back to the starboard guide and jib cinch block. I still have to raise and lower the mast with my left hand while holding the line in my right hand. When the mast is vertical, I cinch the line in the block and go to ground level to secure the pins at the bow. Coming down, I reverse the procedure lowering it with the line to about 40 degrees, where I use both arms to support the mast. Be careful and good luck. Bruce King Fair Oaks, CA '84 M15

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Re: M_Boats: New list member - looking for Montgomery encounters
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 24 May '12

24 May '12

Thomas, We were wrong in our perceptions, whatever they may have been, as some were offended, which was not our intent. It is certainly not in our plan to cause problems and we'll make whatever adjustments are necessary. We think this is as good group of which we're pleased to be a part. thanx for your comments. sal In a message dated 5/22/2012 5:31:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, Thomas(a)ThomasHoweOnline.com writes: Sal, I don't think that you were wrong, we are interested in the boat, but when requests about Montgomeries are voiced, it is tiresome to continue to hear the sales plug for the Sage. Thomas Howe Mailto:Thomas@TEHowe.com O --------(\ ---------- ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of SALGLESSER(a)aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:54 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: New list member - looking for Montgomery encounters Sorry about that Sean, and also to the rest or the group. We guessed that the Sage would be well received on this board, being Jerry Montgomery's latest design and this is a Montgomery forum. Especially since Jerry worked with this group to develop the model. Looks like we were wrong. Please accept my apology and we'll cool our jets in the future. sal In a message dated 5/20/2012 9:44:42 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, Nebwest2(a)aol.com writes: I'm sorry, but I gotta say, and this is just my opinion....the lack of subtleness of the Sage plug above is a little bothersome. C'mon guys. It's growing tiresome. The gentleman came to a Montgomery forum, looking for information on a Montgomery boat, not a "Jerry design", "wrinkle boat" or whatever other generic term we want to use to try to include the Sages on the Monty forums. Sage has a forum. I go there and enjoy it. You have a great boat in the Sage 17 no doubt. I only speak for myself and I may be totally alone on this one, but Sage being injected in my face nonstop every time a question is asked on a Montgomery forum is wearing thin and to me does not demonstrate the "integrity" that Sage touts as their motto ("Integrity is being good even when no-one is looking). I realize that yes Dave and Sal both have Mboats and the offer was there to show the Mboat as well, but we somehow conveniently switched the term Montgomery for "Jerry Montgomery Design" a marketing tactic of late that allows the injection of Sage into a conversation that is about Montgomerys, and also threw the offer to show the Sage in there for good measure. I'm not taking sides here between Montgomery and Sage, but I suspect if the owner of a competing boat company did that on the Sage forum it would not be looked at favorably. Poor form. My wish is that you guys would certainly participate in the forums as Montgomery Owners, which you both are...Rather than representatives of Sage Marine trying to slide in a continuous sales pitch. I know that this viewpoint won't be viewed favorably by all and that's OK, but I refuse to continue see it to happen and just act like either I don't understand what is taking place, or that I don't care. Neither is the case. I'm sure some will disagree with me. Maybe I am "off" here on this perception and it is just a random occurrence of Sage Marine marketing on Montgomery forums once in a while. If I am I apologize but I don't feel that this is the case and I get less enjoyment out of the forum every time it happens. If It's just me, then OK...maybe I should be moving along. Sorry for the "downer". For what it's worth. Sean

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