May 2012 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Two questions
by Michael Garcia 31 May '12

31 May '12

I hope to tap into the sage advice (no pun intended) and experience of long time M17 owners. I have been unable to find instruction as to how best to install a adjustable motor mount on a 17. Also any recommendations as to how to replace a centerboard pennant? Thanks in advance. MG Sent from my iPad

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Re: M_Boats: Folsom Lake sailing
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 31 May '12

31 May '12

Bruce, sounds like an exciting day! I can rarely get out on weekdays, and as it turned out I was up in Spokane those dates. Dang! Too often missing the best sailing days! I do remember being out on Folsom one particular day last year with conditions as you described, my single reef tied in--with my wife as crew--and despite her white knuckles, lots of spray across the bow and into the cockpit, and a few choice explicatives, we are still married and going on 20 something years :-) Yes, one of these days you, I and Larry should try and get out at the same lake at the same time and snap some "fleet" pictures. Think about Woodward Reservoir this weekend...it's a Potter Yachter campout weekend and potluck. -Neil ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bruce King" <hillking7(a)comcast.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Folsom Lake sailing, reply to Larry H. Date: Wed, May 30, 2012 5:28 pm I did sail Folsom Lake, No. CA on 5/17 or 5/18. That morning I saw a forecast for 12-20 MPH winds with gusts to 30 MPH. Arriving about noon, the lake had many power boats enjoying the day. I decided to maximum reef which I had never tried. It worked great on the lake from 1:00-3:00 PM. Only once, due to a brief gust did I do a "round up" with the small sail areas. It was a blast! Of course the winds and white caps cleared the lake of all power boats, so I was the only vessel on the sea! At about 3:00 PM, the wind died back to the about 8-12 and I went to full sail area. The only thing that I missed were some Monty buds. My fault, for short notice. We'll have to plan a day with the local Monty folks! Bruce King Fair Oaks, CA '84 M15

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Folsom Lake sailing, reply to Larry H.
by Bruce King 31 May '12

31 May '12

I did sail Folsom Lake, No. CA on 5/17 or 5/18. That morning I saw a forecast for 12-20 MPH winds with gusts to 30 MPH. Arriving about noon, the lake had many power boats enjoying the day. I decided to maximum reef which I had never tried. It worked great on the lake from 1:00-3:00 PM. Only once, due to a brief gust did I do a "round up" with the small sail areas. It was a blast! Of course the winds and white caps cleared the lake of all power boats, so I was the only vessel on the sea! At about 3:00 PM, the wind died back to the about 8-12 and I went to full sail area. The only thing that I missed were some Monty buds. My fault, for short notice. We'll have to plan a day with the local Monty folks! Bruce King Fair Oaks, CA '84 M15

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Re: M_Boats: Mike Mann
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 30 May '12

30 May '12

Ah, the wonderful saga of Little Breeze, which I take it is still in Hawaii? Geez, I wish we had more than just a little breeze here in Sacramento! Memorial Day would have been OK but I couldn't get out. Hopefully some good winds at Woodward Reservoir where I hope to be this Sat / Sun. Getting around OK on that new knee, Jerry? -Neil ----- Reply message ----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "montgomery forum" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Mike Mann Date: Wed, May 30, 2012 4:44 pm Just got back from lunch with Mike and Laurie Mann- many of you will remember Mike as the guy who sailed a 15 to Hawaii about 20 years ago. We sat around at the Spaghetti Factory and told lies for a couple of hours - good times. He brought a bunch of photos of getting the boat ready, the trip, etc.. I was startled to see that I didn't always have a gray beard! They're on their way to Eugene, OR for most of the summer, where they're going to stay near Fern Ridge Reservoir, which is my old stomping grounds in better days. When little kids, my brother and I used to go out there with Kenny Richardson, the farmer on the next farm over, and catch a bazillion catfish. A good time was had by all, except maybe for the catfish. I once delivered a 15 to Eugene and sailed it in a race at Fern Ridge with my two 7-year-olds as crew. We duct taped the halyard and topping lift on, and launched the chute out of a paper bag! Seems like we won, but I'm not sure. jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6605 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Mike Mann
by jerry montgomery 30 May '12

30 May '12

Just got back from lunch with Mike and Laurie Mann- many of you will remember Mike as the guy who sailed a 15 to Hawaii about 20 years ago. We sat around at the Spaghetti Factory and told lies for a couple of hours - good times. He brought a bunch of photos of getting the boat ready, the trip, etc. I was startled to see that I didn't always have a gray beard! They're on their way to Eugene, OR for most of the summer, where they're going to stay near Fern Ridge Reservoir, which is my old stomping grounds in better days. When little kids, my brother and I used to go out there with Kenny Richardson, the farmer on the next farm over, and catch a bazillion catfish. A good time was had by all, except maybe for the catfish. I once delivered a 15 to Eugene and sailed it in a race at Fern Ridge with my two 7-year-olds as crew. We duct taped the halyard and topping lift on, and launched the chute out of a paper bag! Seems like we won, but I'm not sure. jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6605 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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boom vang
by Tom Jenkins 29 May '12

29 May '12

Hi all, I have a 2004 Montgomery 17 with an 8' boom, which can hang on the backstay in a wild jibe. I consequently tend to run the boom 17" up the mast rather than the 28" that sends the main to the tippy-top. I would be most obliged if someone out there with a similar boat would tell be how high he/she runs the boom, and if a vang keeps the boom from kissing the backstay. It seems logical, but my logic does not always prevail. I am mounting a vang anyway, but I need to know how high to ride the boom so I can figure where to mount the bail for the vang. Thanks ever so much; I would rather be sailing than punching experimental holes in my spars. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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Re: M_Boats: Advice on center board halyard
by bownez＠juno.com 29 May '12

29 May '12

Hello Robbin, Sorry to hear about your pendant issues, I can see how that would happen.I have the same winch setup as you do. I have not had a wrap problem with mine, perhaps I'm lucky.I had Hooper's sand and paint the bottom of my M23 this spring, while they had the boat in the slings, they lowered the CB and gave it a look see.All seemed in order,Mine also has the wire rope and "D" shackle. I know Theo's M23 has the lazarette winch system like Sean's. Good luck with the repair and let us know how it all shakes out. Jerry, yes, one of us WILL probably need that spare CB one of these fine days. (hopefully, NOT ME). Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 51 But Looks 25! Mom reveals simple wrinkle secret that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fc427df8c44e4475bdst01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Advice on center board halyard
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 May '12

28 May '12

That's good to know Jerry! I'd have you mail it to me......but..... LOL If I had the dough I'd take it off your hands, send it to Bristol Bronze, have them make a sand mold and cast me one in bronze. I did that for the anchor roller/bow fitting. Alas....I couldn't even afford the shipping let alone the bronze! S Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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Re: M_Boats: Advice on center board halyard
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 May '12

28 May '12

Robbin, Sorry to hear about your centerboard issues. They can be frustrating. On Dauntless, the centerboard cannot be lowered enough to expose the pendant attachment point. I had to hoist the boat, remove the pivot pin, remove the stop pin and then lower the entire board out of the slot to get access to the shackle. I don't know if its just our boat, or if all the 23's suffer this issue. With respect to the pendant. I use 7x19 stainless cable....off the top of my head I want to say it is 3/16" but not sure on that, ill have to check. Anyway, it is way stronger than needed and it has a thimble swedged on it. I do my own swedging, and I usually use two sleeves. I have not had a problem with the swedge letting go, although, I did break the pendant clean in half by absent mindedly winching it up beyond the max retraction point. That was my mistake and the mechanical advantage of the winch obliged me with a loud snap and a,boom when the centerboard bottomed out on the stop pin. Amazingly, nothing broke and D did not sink. LOL If you pulled a piece of cable with no sleeve or thimble on it out of the trunk...I find myself wondering if possibly you had a wire failure and the stub is still down there with the thimble, sleeve, etc. Have you been able to visualize if there may still be a piece of pendant attached to the board? Getting the leed of the wire as it feeds into the winch is critical to prevent overrides...AND...I never totally unload the pendant. If you do the wire remaining on the spool will try to straighten out off the spool and make a mess out if all your nice neat parrallel wraps. I have had that happen and it causes me to totally unload the spool, and the re-wrap all the wraps neatly. Nowadays, I always lower the board just till I feel the board contact the stop pin , then winch back up just enough to snug up the cable. My winch is in the starboard lazzerette. I have seen others like Bones' that sit directly atop the trunk. Which do you have? I have entertained the idea of replacing the wire rope with one of the new synthetics like Dyneema, Amsteel, or some type of kevlar, but I won't do it until sometime when I have to remove the centerboard again....and I plan on that being a long long time from now! At least I hope. I love the M23's design....however, if they are all designed like mine where you have to drop the board or else do a major modification to the trunk to gain access to the pendant attachment point.....well...that aspect leaves a little to be desired. Let us know how it works out! Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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Re: M_Boats: Fixed mount VHF
by bownez＠juno.com 28 May '12

28 May '12

Thank you Jerry! Looking forward to reading your story once you post it. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fc2c34e144311a75348st06vuc

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