August 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

M-15 sails
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

My buddy Dave (the guy that got me started on Montgomerys 20+ years ago) lives down in San Carlos, Mexico. Yes, Jerry...you know what Dave I'm talking about! He has an M15 down there that he loves to sail. But, fall and winter winds can be a bit brisk. So, the other day I got an email and a package. The email was from Dave saying that a package of new custom cut sails for his M15 were on the way to my address from Elliot/ Pattison. And then, as you guessed, the package was the sails. According to Dave they will be his high wind sails. A smaller than normal main and a small working jib, both cut from heavy cloth, I believe he said they are both 6 oz fabric. Of course I'm eating my heart out that right in my yard sits Dauntless, desperately wanting new sails to adorn herself in.... here's a new box of sails...and they're not for her. Dave said he'll be up sometime before fall to pick them up. The box will sit on the shelf until then. So, if you need high wind sails, sounds like Elliot/Pattison already has the numbers and measurements down for a custom set for the M15. Guess we'll have to wait 'till fall for the full report! Good thing Dave doesn't sail an M23. Had new sails showed up for one of them.....................well, the sails would have probably never showed up! ;-) Sean M23 "Dauntless" www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com

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Re: M_Boats: Identify theft!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

I always get 'Jo to do all my sanding............... yeah right! :-) sean m23 "dauntless

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Transom Ladder
by Murray Wood 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

I am installing a three step transom ladder, Windline TT-3X on my M15, same ladder as installed by Bob Eeg. Attached to the bottom rung is a nylon strap with a snap buckle at the end. When the ladder is stored, it is folded up with the bottom rung uppermost. The nylon strap goes from the topmost rung over the top of the transom and fastens on the other side. I have not seen any pictures of how the buckle is fastened to the cockpit side of the transom. I would appreciate a description of how the buckle is fastened or any pictures of the installed buckle. I know that I can count on this most knowledgeable group to come up with an answer for me.. Murray Wood M 15 524

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Instant Gratification
by Tom Smith 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Big fan of it. Probably made most of my decisions in life based on it. But enough about me... I was fooling around with my M17 yesterday, adding bow skene chocks so dock and anchor lines would be easier to run and chaff less and all that. And got to thinking, what projects have people on the list done that take two hours or less to accomplish that are very useful and fun and not too hard to do. Just adding equipment doesn't count. So I'll start by talking about drain holes in my teak toe rail (you thought I was going to talk about the bow chocks, didn't you?). I got tired of the spooge that accumulates between the toe rail and the coaming when the boat sits in its slip for a week or so. Though lovely to behold, the sheer line of the M17 is such that moisture pools in that area, and dust and pollen and eventually, green stuff. Sure, you can wipe it out, but even instant gratification can be too instant. So I started with the lowest point where moisture accumulates and drew a shape two inches long and a half inch high on the outside of the toe rail, beneath the genoa track (you have to split the difference between the bolts that attach the toe rail, but you're still going to be very close to the area that pools). I drilled inside the 4 corners, being careful not to notch the gelcoat at the bottom, then used a broken coping saw blade to carefully cut out the unwanted material (I tried a dremel, but a guy can do a lot of damage with one of those things). I captured the outside end of the blade with a vice grip---made sort of a mini keyhole saw out of it. When you cut the top and sides of the drain hole, you can knock the chunk out with a couple careful taps with a hammer and punch. When you have the rough hole you have to clean up the caulk that sealed the toe rail, and I carefully radiused each end of the hole with a round file for a more nautical appearance. File and sand the lot smooth and use a Q tip to coat it with Cetol or varnish or whatever. You can probably do one drain hole in less that one hour once you get the hang of the process--so two hours for both sides. I've got 5 per side now, and will probably do one more per side because I'm an even number guy. Next? t

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I must be getting (a) dinghy??
by Blake Reimer 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

When I started this thread some two weeks ago, I had no idea it would be so long legged. It has turned up some great boats and ideas. Anyway after looking at a gazillion inflatables on line I got the building bug after looking at Pygmy kayaks. A kayak wasn't practical in my case and I went on to tenders, prams, etc. Today, I ordered plans for Sam Devlin's "Polliwog", a 7'6" x 4' chined rowing tender. I was sorely tempted by the late Phil Bolger's Ruben's Nymph, the not so beamy regular Nymph and something called an 'Apple Pie'. In the end the Polliwog won out because it looked to row better than the Apple Pie, seemed a bit more stable than the Nymph - and it should look great behind IOTA. All are very small boats, mostly because my shop space really isn't much larger than my M15 as well as the winner needing to go on top of the 6ft bed of my Ranger. Wish me luck... Blake Reimer M15 IOTA

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tiller accessory
by Tom Jenkins 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Kind folks, I have a Tiller-Tamer sitting around that I thought might work for my 17 with an IdaSailor rudder. I don't want to mount new cleats, so I would like to use the side stern cleats for the T-T line. The geometry does not meet the specs in the mounting instructions (it would have to be too far forward to make a right angle), but I am wondering if one of you has mounted one further back with success. If so, how far is the T-T sheave center from the pivot point on the rudder? Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 hull #686

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I must be getting (a) dinghy??
by Blake Reimer 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

With thoughts towards the great NW next year, I wonder if I need a dinghy for my dimunitive-enough-as-it-is M15. What say? Do others use a dinghy for such locales with their M-15? If so, what are you using? With oars or motor(assume my 2hp can do double duty..) or both? Has anyone tried the newfangled Kaboats (strange, inflatable kayaks with a transom)? Am I any more out of my mind than usual to think I would need one? Blake M15 IOTA

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Re: M_Boats: Good News/Bad News
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Thanx much, I don't think that we planned on "going back". We've been long time admirers of the Hess/Montgomery design lineage. The M-15, I'm sure is just the beginning. Spent some time with John, MaryLou and Eddie, great folks. John is very bright and inventive. I must say that I am quite amazed at John's well thought out, simple improvements to the boat. Hard to believe so much could be put into a 15 foot boat. My wife, Gail, took a bad fall about 5 weeks ago. shattered her knee-cap among other damage. The doctors managed to put her back together with screws and wire . She was quite the trooper going to get the boat, brace, cane and all. (Denver - Arkansas - Denver) The accident did slow our sailing time recently. We're planning a "dry run": this weekend to make sure we know where all of the lines go. Hope to get her wet in the next couple of weeks. We're sure it's going to be a wonderful adventure. Thanx much to John Butler for "letting her go". John has a great attitude and we hope to see him soaring shortly. sal In a message dated 8/17/2009 11:02:40 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, openboatt(a)gmail.com writes: Careful Sal. Once you sail an M15, you may never go back... t _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Identify theft!
by John R. Butler 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Just curious how many of you into long time sailing and maintenance have my problem with identify theft? Having used so many sheets of sandpaper over the many decades, I have no usable fingerprints left and won't register on the electronic fingerprint checkers. Since I had to give up sailing, should I study safe cracking to keep out of the bars? John R. Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net Eschew obfuscation!

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Re: M_Boats: Bringing down the mast
by eisenee＠aol.com 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Yes I don't have a roller furler Holler ALUMINUM as you pull the pin on the forestay. Eldor M17 Motu iti

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